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Offline mtmusic1k

DGX-670 Style Edit/Recording
« on: January 03, 2023, 07:45:12 PM »
--- UPDATE ---

I decided to re-record everything from scratch, using the edited style I created.   This time it worked perfectly, without all the crazy cymbals.  So obviously, something I wasn't doing right the first time.


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Hi, new to forum and fairly new DGX-670 owner (had it about 6 weeks now).  I am a bit of a newbie to this stuff, my last keyboard was a Yamaha PSR-510 from around 1993.

I have a simple arrangement of a song I'm recording, learned how to record multiple tracks and such, then decided to use a drum track.
I went through the Styles and selected "SlowBlues", started my recording, then brought in the drums with the Start/Stop button.

The problem is these seemingly random cymbal crashes throughout from the drums.
I know the DGX-670 has a feature that adds these extras based on either how hard I play or how many notes at the same time?  (not sure which) -- I believe that is what is causing it.

So i did some research on style editing/creating and thought I'd found the solution.   I edited the Style and set the volume to all cymbals to 0 (since I wasn't sure which one it was).  I then saved this style as "SlowBluesMT"

However, using that style results in the same problem.   I also noticed on the screen in the Style area, every time it hits the cymbal it says "Cancel" in the lower right corner.  Possibly a clue??
https://imgur.com/ftFVMak

I just want to remove the cymbal crashes  :-\

Here's a youtube link to what is happening:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ca2tDP_XvVI

Thanks in advance for any help.

Mike


« Last Edit: January 03, 2023, 11:29:36 PM by mtmusic1k »
 
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Offline Amwilburn

Re: DGX-670 Style Edit/Recording
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2023, 08:50:58 PM »
I know what you mean: I hate how those cymbal crashes seem to happen randomly (it is actually with velocity, but way too easily triggered). I would suggest also, if you pick a style that doesn't contain those chord cancel cymbal crashes, and start with that, it also won't have the random cymbal crashes.

That's probably why setting the cymbal volumes to 0 didn't stop them; they aren't triggered as part of the style midi; I think the new adaptive styles send out the chord cancel signal to trigger them.

Mark

Offline vlbrgt

Re: DGX-670 Style Edit/Recording
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2023, 03:44:25 AM »
Hi Mike,
The Youtube video link doesn't work.

Regards
Etienne
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Offline vlbrgt

Re: DGX-670 Style Edit/Recording
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2023, 04:09:42 AM »
Hi Mike,

I have modified your style SlowBlues.
Try it out if it works that way for you.
If it is ok I will explain how you can remove the Cancel chord cymbals.

Regards
Etienne

Edit: Roger Brenizer removed link to Yamaha copyright style "(c)2020 YAMAHA Corp."
« Last Edit: January 19, 2023, 04:23:32 AM by Roger Brenizer »
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Offline mtmusic1k

Re: DGX-670 Style Edit/Recording
« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2023, 11:05:05 PM »
Thanks for the replies everyone.  Just now getting back to this, sorry for taking so long to respond.

Etienne, thank you for the modified style, I will try it out tomorrow!

Offline mtmusic1k

Re: DGX-670 Style Edit/Recording
« Reply #5 on: January 20, 2023, 03:55:27 PM »

If it is ok I will explain how you can remove the Cancel chord cymbals.

Regards
Etienne

It works perfectly, I am curious what you did differently to modify the style.  Thanks!

Offline vlbrgt

Re: DGX-670 Style Edit/Recording
« Reply #6 on: January 20, 2023, 10:41:25 PM »
Hi Mike,

The change is done in the CASM section of the style.
Give me a bit of time to make a txt or pdf file with the explication.

Regards
Etienne
If plan A doesn't work, don't forget that the alphabet has 25 more letters.
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Offline vlbrgt

Re: DGX-670 Style Edit/Recording
« Reply #7 on: January 21, 2023, 03:33:26 PM »
Hello,

The easiest way to make the changes is with the program 'CASM Edit' from Osenenko.
Download the program at :
www.mnppsaturn.ru/osenenko
After install you verify if there are updates available.

SFF2 styles : (used style as example : Genos - Ballroom - Beguine.T558.prs)
Start the program and load a SFF2 style.
Open CASM2 (takes a few seconds)
Look into the column named 'Unknown'.
Not all the codes are documented, but search for something like this '00010018313400'
This is a hexadecimal code '00 01 00 18 31 34 00'
I do not know the meaning of all bytes but 31 stands for a Cymbal (notenumber')
and 34 is the velocity(volume) of the cymbal.

In this example there is only one code like this, but there could be more the codes in the column.

Click right on the code numbers and choose 'Edit'
In the column Value (HEX) change 34 by 00 and click OK (or a lower velocity-volume than 34)
Close the CASM2 window and save the style.

SFF1 styles
Open CASM2 and look into column Special features.
Same actions as for SFF2

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I did it differently with MixMaster and a Hex editor (Hxd)
I open the style in MixMaster and open the CASM view.
Search for the codes in 'Unknown Bytes'
If found, open Hxd and search for these hexa codes and replace the velocity with 00 or another velocity value.

Regards
Etienne
If plan A doesn't work, don't forget that the alphabet has 25 more letters.
Volbragte@telenet.be
http://Psrtutorial.com/MB/volbragt.html
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