Topic: Play with midi files and original voice of singer

[rock123456789]

Hi,
I would know if possible play with my Yamaha PSR S770 a file midi together a file audio with orginal voice of singer.
For example I wuold play titanic soundtrack with Celine Dion voice.
Is it possible?

[Rick D.]

Rock,

It is possible on the Genos, I am not sure about on the S770. If you can make audio multipads on the 770, it should be doable. First you have to go to a site that rips out the vocals from a song. This is what I use. It is free but has limits on how many you can do per day. if you want unlimited use you have to donate. There will be slight noise on some rips but you can't hear them when you play along with it.

https://vocalremover.org/

Make the ripped vocal into an audio multipad on your keyboard if you can, and then the hardest part of the whole thing is syncing it to the midi. It takes some practice but I have done it many times. Sometimes if you can't sync it on the keyboard for live playing, you can import your midi and ripped vocal into Audacity and sync it up in there.

Rick D.

[rock123456789]

Rock,

It is possible on the Genos, I am not sure about on the S770. If you can make audio multipads on the 770, it should be doable. First you have to go to a site that rips out the vocals from a song. This is what I use. It is free but has limits on how many you can do per day. if you want unlimited use you have to donate. There will be slight noise on some rips but you can't hear them when you play along with it.

https://vocalremover.org/

Make the ripped vocal into an audio multipad on your keyboard if you can, and then the hardest part of the whole thing is syncing it to the midi. It takes some practice but I have done it many times. Sometimes if you can't sync it on the keyboard for live playing, you can import your midi and ripped vocal into Audacity and sync it up in there.

Rick D.

Thanks Rick
How sync it?

[vlbrgt]

On Genos,

This is another method, No Multipads but audio file.

In the midi file you can put a sysex command 'Start Audio' (Can easily be done with MixMaster)
When the midi file is played, this command starts palying the loaded audio file.
The MBT of the Start command must be exactly on the right place.
This is sometime a little bit error and trying.
But once done it works perfect.

The only thing you have to take into account is that the audio file has the same tempo as the midi file.
Myself I have several audio backing tracks from 'karaokeversie.nl'.
You need to have a backing track with the same tempo, not a variable tempo.

I don't know if on the S770 you can load a audio file.

Regards
Etienne

[rock123456789]

On Genos,

This is another method, No Multipads but audio file.

In the midi file you can put a sysex command 'Start Audio' (Can easily be done with MixMaster)
When the midi file is played, this command starts palying the loaded audio file.
The MBT of the Start command must be exactly on the right place.
This is sometime a little bit error and trying.
But once done it works perfect.

The only thing you have to take into account is that the audio file has the same tempo as the midi file.
Myself I have several audio backing tracks from 'karaokeversie.nl'.
You need to have a backing track with the same tempo, not a variable tempo.

I don't know if on the S770 you can load a audio file.

Regards
Etienne

Yes, it is possible

[vlbrgt]

But can you play a midi file and a audio file simultanious ?

[Rick D.]

Thanks Rick
How sync it?

You have to time it right and get your midi at the same tempo as the vocal. It takes some practice. You could also have the multipad start with a registration. I start mine with a pedal.

Rick D.

[rock123456789]

But can you play a midi file and a audio file simultanious ?

Maybe... don't remember

[rock123456789]

You have to time it right and get your midi at the same tempo as the vocal. It takes some practice. You could also have the multipad start with a registration. I start mine with a pedal.

Rick D.

With what software?

[andyg]

Yes you can play audio and a style/MIDI together but the trouble comes when the singer isn't perfectly in time - and that's going to be most of the time, unless they're singing to a backing that has exact, robotic timing. That discrepancy has to be dealt with carefully. You either do some meticulous editing of the audio (mandatory if you're going to have a style playing with the audio) or you do some meticulous editing of the tempo track in the MIDI file. Or both! It can take a long time! Been there, done it, got the T-shirt and not bothered about doing it again! 

[Rick D.]

With what software?

If your doing it on keyboard I use nothing. If you're doing it on PC I use Audacity.

Rick D.