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Re: Is there a huge sound benefit to Playing styles on Genos v SX900
« Reply #50 on: November 17, 2022, 03:11:02 AM »
Wish you a lot of fun with Pa5X Rikki and hope you'll share your impressions  :)

Bogdan

Thank you Bogdan. Will do.  More important than ever to get good monitors. Can’t wait to try the 2 keyboards  together.  ie being able to play sx900 styles with PA5x melody voices.
Been a while, have to get my brain back into gear and work out the midi settings again. Used to do it with my pa800/ psr1500. I used to keep notes so I wouldn’t forget. Haha.
Best wishes
Rikki
Korg PA5X 88 note
SX 900
Band in a Box 2022
 

Re: Is there a huge sound benefit to Playing styles on Genos v SX900
« Reply #51 on: November 17, 2022, 03:24:27 AM »
Congratulations @Rikki on your new toy. I was allowed to try it out for about 2 hours. I was very impressed with the PA5x. I especially liked the nice playable keybed, the beautiful tiltable screen, the design and the overall sound and some essential functions I prefer. A major upgrade in December will have to do to convince me and I expect news about the Genos2/3 in the short term.  Only I'm going for a 61 version. Just nice prospects. Have fun with it and pls. share your impressions at some time.

Thanks Ton , will do. My 88 note vers. has the fully weighted keys, which I’m really happy about, means I can sell my piano. Used to like the semi weighted on the PA4x also, but not as much as fully weighted.

It seems like a lot of people would like to see a 61 note version of Genos, not everyone needs 76 notes. I’ve only ever had 61 note arrangers  ( even though 76 was an option on korgs). Until now that is.  If I am in the market in the future for a Genos, I’d prefer 61 notes too,  ( better style an arranger module version, ) in my dreams, never going to happen. Haha

Best wishes
Rikki
Korg PA5X 88 note
SX 900
Band in a Box 2022
 

Offline ton37

Re: Is there a huge sound benefit to Playing styles on Genos v SX900
« Reply #52 on: November 17, 2022, 07:52:18 AM »
@Rikki, a other option could be: Ketron Event modul, the Yamaha SX 900 and your Korg PA5x-88 . Then your room is keyboard paradise😃😃😎
« Last Edit: November 17, 2022, 08:14:07 AM by ton37 »
My best regards,
Ton
 

Jeff Hollande

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Re: Is there a huge sound benefit to Playing styles on Genos v SX900
« Reply #53 on: November 17, 2022, 08:50:26 AM »
Hi Ton :

Your idea ( adding a Ketron / Event Module in 2023 ! ) might be a tempting, but expensive ( ? ) proposal for those who prefer to keep their 61n Yamaha. ;)

Best regards, JH
« Last Edit: November 17, 2022, 08:56:04 AM by Jeff Hollande »
 

Offline Danny1972

Re: Is there a huge sound benefit to Playing styles on Genos v SX900
« Reply #54 on: November 17, 2022, 09:55:01 AM »

Do you use a different name on the Korg forum?


Hi Rikki, yes I am Danster72 on the Korg forum :)
 

Jeff Hollande

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Re: Is there a huge sound benefit to Playing styles on Genos v SX900
« Reply #55 on: November 17, 2022, 09:56:06 AM »
Sizes
Ty4     : 1140 x 450 x 143 mm
Genos : 1234 x 456 x 138 mm

Genos would fit. :)
Wonder if the Genos2 will have the same Genos' sizes ? Nobody knows yet.

PA5X/88 note : 1262 x 396.4 x 146 mm !!!
JH

« Last Edit: November 17, 2022, 12:13:28 PM by Jeff Hollande »
 

Offline ton37

Re: Is there a huge sound benefit to Playing styles on Genos v SX900
« Reply #56 on: November 17, 2022, 11:32:21 AM »
Hi Ton :

Your idea ( adding a Ketron / Event Module in 2023 ! ) might be a tempting, but expensive ( ? ) proposal for those who prefer to keep their 61n Yamaha. ;)

Best regards, JH
The road to paradise is therefore not the easiest way  ;D :)
My best regards,
Ton
 

Offline Amwilburn

Re: Is there a huge sound benefit to Playing styles on Genos v SX900
« Reply #57 on: November 17, 2022, 07:16:20 PM »
Sizes
Ty4     : 1140 x 450 x 143 mm
Genos : 1234 x 456 x 138 mm

Genos would fit. :)
Wonder if the Genos2 will have the same Genos' sizes ? Nobody knows yet.

PA5X/88 note : 1262 x 396.4 x 146 mm !!!
JH


Wait until you see how ridiculously large the T5-76 was:
   Tyros5-76: 1347 x 450 x 142mm
Genos is actually not much bigger than 61key Tyros (all roughly the same size).
and T5-76 was 37 lbs or so to boot.

Mark
« Last Edit: November 17, 2022, 07:44:49 PM by Amwilburn »
 

Jeff Hollande

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Re: Is there a huge sound benefit to Playing styles on Genos v SX900
« Reply #58 on: November 18, 2022, 08:52:31 AM »
Hi Mark :

Weight differences ( all 76n ) :
 01. GENOS  = 13 kg Winner !
 02. EVENT   = 14.8 kg
 03. PA5X     = 17.4 kg

Sizes  :
Ketron/Event : 1140 x 365 x 125 mm : Winner !
( my Ty4 ( 61n ) : 1140 x 450 x 143 mm )

Now we have to wait for the Genos2' sizes and weight.


Best wishes,
JH
« Last Edit: November 18, 2022, 09:13:11 AM by Jeff Hollande »
 

Offline mikf

Re: Is there a huge sound benefit to Playing styles on Genos v SX900
« Reply #59 on: November 18, 2022, 02:34:24 PM »
When I bought my new grand piano my wife felt it looked a little big for the room, so I had the wall knocked down and moved out 6ft. It’s perfect now. There’s always a way to make your keyboard fit! 😃
Mike
« Last Edit: November 18, 2022, 04:22:26 PM by mikf »
 

Offline travlin-easy

Re: Is there a huge sound benefit to Playing styles on Genos v SX900
« Reply #60 on: November 18, 2022, 06:11:39 PM »
If you are a home player, the size of the keyboard or piano is irrelevant. Even if you live in a small apartment, you can find sufficient space to store and play them.

The big difference is when you are an onstage performer, often performing more than one job a day, and sometimes, as many as three times a day. Weight is one of the biggest determining factors of which keyboard you should purchase, along with the other gear, PA system, stand, seat, etc... And, you need a good transportation device to get that gear from the van or car into the venue, then be able to set it up in a short period of time.

In the past, I have owned Roland keyboards that tipped the scales at more than 50 pounds. They were brutal to say the very least to lug around and place on the stand. Same held true with sound systems, speakers that weighed more than 100-pounds each, and some 50 pounders that needed to go up on stands.

Now, I have compared and owned more keyboards that I care to think about, and finally ended up with a PSR-S950, which is relatively lightweight, small footprint, and when properly tuned, sounds damned near as good as the Genos I tried out when they first came on the market. 

After some serious searches, spending lots of time playing various keyboards, Yamaha, Roland, Korg, Ketron, etc..., than figuring out ways to lighten the entire load, I came up with a complete setup that allowed me sufficient gear to perform to audiences as small as 10 in a living room job, and up to 1,200 in a municipal park that covered nearly 4 acres. It took a fair amount of forethought and planning to get everything just right, but when I was finished, I could set up my entire system in less than 7 minutes and be ready to perform. I still have that same system here at home, less the Bose sound systems - I just use headphones or the onboard sound system.

Click this link to see the vid on my system setup:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NmLyw_BGteU&t=510s]Setup

This setup was at a high end jewelry store job, where I performed for more than a decade every December during a special diamond sale. No wires running across the floor, the entire rig only took up 6 X 6 feet of floor space, and the Bose L1 Compact covered the 3,000 square foot store with equal, clear, crisp, high quality sound, even when there were about 100 patrons in the store. I could keep the volume low, but still high enough to be heard clearly by everyone, without disturbing the sales transactions. At the end of the night, I was surrounded by the beautiful sales staff and we all had a glass of champagne before closing the store, packing up and heading home for the evening. For me, this was the only good attribute of winter in Maryland.

Nearly all, mid range and high end arranger keyboards sound great, and most are more than capable of doing far more than the owners demand of them. Therefore, as I stated in the outset of this rambling post, for me, when I was still working on stage, portability and weight are the biggest determining factor of which one to purchase.

Good luck on whatever you decide upon,

Gary

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Love Those Yammies...
 

Re: Is there a huge sound benefit to Playing styles on Genos v SX900
« Reply #61 on: November 18, 2022, 08:54:50 PM »
@Rikki, a other option could be: Ketron Event modul, the Yamaha SX 900 and your Korg PA5x-88 . Then your room is keyboard paradise😃😃😎

Hi Ton,
unfortunately not in Australia, the newest bit of Ketron  gear for sale here is an Audya 4 module. Haha, it’s pathetic.  Only one place in Aust. as far as I’m aware sells Ketron,  I had an sd1 many years, goodness knows what would have happened if it needed repairs, probably ended up in the rubbish bin alongside my Ketron sd2 module. Sd2 failed after an update, effort and cost of getting it fixed wasn’t worth it.

Sadly not an option.
Best wishes
Rikki
Korg PA5X 88 note
SX 900
Band in a Box 2022
 

Re: Is there a huge sound benefit to Playing styles on Genos v SX900
« Reply #62 on: November 18, 2022, 08:56:45 PM »
Hi Rikki, yes I am Danster72 on the Korg forum :)

Thanks or clarifying Danny
Best wishes
Rikki
Korg PA5X 88 note
SX 900
Band in a Box 2022
 

Re: Is there a huge sound benefit to Playing styles on Genos v SX900
« Reply #63 on: November 18, 2022, 09:07:18 PM »
When I bought my new grand piano my wife felt it looked a little big for the room, so I had the wall knocked down and moved out 6ft. It’s perfect now. There’s always a way to make your keyboard fit! 😃
Mike

Brilliant Mike.
I had a beautiful little baby Yamaha Grand many, many years, it went thru about 6 house moves, the last one , room looked a bit small too, hubby mirrored the end wall, 
( opposite wall to piano)  and wow did it ever open up the area ( total illusion of course).
Best wishes
Rikki
Korg PA5X 88 note
SX 900
Band in a Box 2022