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Offline Sukanta

Midi looping with a style
« on: July 22, 2022, 06:35:11 AM »
Dear Experts,
Thank you all for helping me always. I'm seeking a way.... I've recorded a 4 bar midi song (a chord progression D-F#m-G-A). Now, I want to set it as a loop while playing with a style. Is that possible?
 

Offline Lyndyloo

Re: Midi looping with a style
« Reply #1 on: July 22, 2022, 11:16:58 AM »
Hello Sukanta

 I watched a very informative video on YouTube yesterday "49 Keyboard Krazy" I believe a Bonner's work staff member, however he is very good in explaining everything about recording including chord looping etc, maybe could answer your request, definitely worth a watch👌

      All the best
         Lynda
 
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Offline Lyndyloo

Re: Midi looping with a style
« Reply #2 on: July 22, 2022, 11:26:33 AM »
  I forgot to mention that it's video number 2 you need to watch, first one is only basics., he goes into great detail on everything, I have learned **** of alot watching these videos.

         Lynda
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Offline Michael Trigoboff

Re: Midi looping with a style
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2022, 03:21:38 AM »
You can set up a MIDI song to loop. You need to have access to a MIDI editor to do some of this. I do it using Cubase.

See the Genos Owner’s Manual, pages 79-82.
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Offline Joe H

Re: Midi looping with a style
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2022, 03:45:15 AM »
Dear Experts,
Thank you all for helping me always. I'm seeking a way.... I've recorded a 4 bar midi song (a chord progression D-F#m-G-A). Now, I want to set it as a loop while playing with a style. Is that possible?

You can use PadMaker-MIDI to create a Multi Pad that you can play along with a style.  But you will have create a chord of CM7 only... the Multi Pad will follow your the chords you play with the left hand.  You can edit the notes in PadMaker-Midi or just record the chords again this time just
4 CM7 chords in a pattern/timing that equals the first MIDI recording you made.  I would opt for the first method.

https://psrtutorial.com/MB/EV_Files/padmakermidi.html

Joe H
« Last Edit: July 23, 2022, 04:19:25 AM by Joe H »
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Offline Mark

Re: Midi looping with a style
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2022, 06:15:45 AM »
... But the whole point of playing a style is switching chords while you're playing... So what's the point of playing the Song with a predefined chord progression along the style?

I might be missing something, but let me suggest the following approach: How about making a style out of your song and playing along? You can create a Style with one variation, use the CASM section, and define an NTT/NTR as "Root Fixed/Bypass" for all the melodic parts (everything but the drums/percussions). In this case, the same chord progression will play over and over again. This resembles DJ styles found in modern Yamaha Keyboards in the sense that they also define a chord progression rather than a single chord that can be triggered by a left hand
 
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Offline pjd

Re: Midi looping with a style
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2022, 06:15:33 PM »
Hi --

I think Mark has suggested a fruitful direction. If you would like to give his approach a try, you might want to check out the links below for more information about style creation, including "DJ styles".

http://sandsoftwaresound.net/getting-started-with-style-files/

http://sandsoftwaresound.net/mox-perf-to-psr-style-part-1/
http://sandsoftwaresound.net/mox-perf-to-psr-style-part-2/
http://sandsoftwaresound.net/mox-perf-to-psr-style-part-3/

http://sandsoftwaresound.net/mining-the-yamaha-djx-ii/

I create styles in a DAW (either SONAR or Cubase) and create/edit the CASM using Jørgen Sørensen's CASM editor: http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/

If you use "Root Transpose/Bypass" for the NTT/NTR, the root note, when played, will establish the chord root for the progression. Thus, you could play the progression where ever you want it. This is how regular styles typically configure introductions and endings which have particular chord progressions.

As to "Why?", I say "Why not?"  :D These instruments are so flexible that any creative use of the technology is fair game!  :)

All the best to everyone -- pj

P.S. Don't know if Chord Looper could be exploited in some way, too?
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Offline Michael Trigoboff

Re: Midi looping with a style
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2022, 11:06:01 PM »
Quote from: pj
P.S. Don't know if Chord Looper could be exploited in some way, too?

You can definitely use the Chord Looper for this sort of thing. It's a great feature.
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Offline Sukanta

Re: Midi looping with a style
« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2022, 11:02:37 AM »
You can create a Style with one variation, use the CASM section, and define an NTT/NTR as "Root Fixed/Bypass" for all the melodic parts (everything but the drums/percussions). In this case, the same chord progression will play over and over again. This resembles DJ styles found in modern Yamaha Keyboards in the sense that they also define a chord progression rather than a single chord that can be triggered by a left hand
Great idea :D :D :D. Thank you Sir.