Topic: Strange behaviour of style '70sStraightRock'

[reya]

Hi all,

I noticed a strange (and unwanted) behaviour of the style '70sStraightRock' (it is in the category Rock on page 1)

To trigger it, do the following.
Choose the style, and choose variation D
Activate Acmp and Sync Start
Save this to a registration button.
Press that registration button to activate it.

Then play a chord with the left hand to start the style and let it play for a couple of measures.
Then while it's playing, press that same registration button again.
You will then notice a temporary change in the sound of the style for some time (sometimes short, sometimes longer).

I think the change in sound is mainly caused by the chord2 voice in the style that temporarily plays louder or brighter

Any ideas on this and how to avoid it?

Thanks
Rudy

[ckobu]

Hi Rudy

This is because the DSP effect on CHD2 has different characteristics for each variation. The Style header (highlighted in yellow) contains DSP characteristics for the entire Style (DSP 25 OUTPUT = 100). This status is stored in the registration. When we play variation D, new values are activated (DSP OUTPUT = 85). By calling Registration, they return to the initial value (100) and acomp 2 is louder until the first bar of variation D passes again.

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[reya]

Hi Ckobu,

thanks for your reply (and for investigating).

I do not fully understand for the moment, but I will have a more detailed look later on.

Thanks
Rudy

[ckobu]

You will notice this best if you open the DSP view on Acomp 2 and follow that marked knobs.

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[Lee Batchelor]

Ckobu, could he edit the style so the DSP effect stays at one volume, and then save it as a custom style? On reactivation, the DSP would be at the same level.

[ckobu]

Hi Lee
Yes. The values behind each Marker (Variations) should be deleted, they are marked with a green box in my first image.

[reya]

Ckobu, yes that part I understand. It's the part where you write that this information is also stored in the header of the style and that this gets (re)activated by pressing the button a second time that puzzles me.

Lee, yes I had also thought of that. I had a look at the Style Editor (which I never really used) but I can't find access to these header settings there

So far the only workable solution I found (based on Ckobu's information) is not to save the Style information to any but the first registration button I would press when playing. So reg button 1 would contain the style info. The other buttons, would not. These other buttons I would use (press) to change the tempo or the right hand voices ...

Rudy

[overover]

Hi Rudy,

The way I see it, the "problem" is not primarily due to Registrations. Of course, if you memorize a Registration with the Style box ticked, the current Main Variation will be memorized (and called up again later when you press the relevant Registration button). However, you also have the same behavior when you switch the Main Variations directly with the Style Control buttons if certain parameters are programmed differently in the individual Variations.


P.S.
The program Casper (ckobu) used is "MixMaster":
>>> https://psrtutorial.com/MB/EV_Files/mixmaster.html


Best regards,
Chris

[reya]

Chris: Thanks for that info about mixmaster!

So I loaded the style into mixmaster, and then modified the header setting, as marked  by Casper, to the same value as the one in the variation.

Now I use that modified style and all is well.

Thanks again guys!

Best regards

Rudy

[overover]

Thanks for your feedback, Rudy!

Glad to hear the issue was resolved.


Best regards,
Chris