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Offline Jeff Hollande

No Yamaha News is good News ?
« on: October 08, 2021, 10:29:15 AM »

Hi :

It is early October 2021.
Up to now Yamaha have not announced new arranger keyboards for delivery in 2022 yet.

The Genos1 was born in 2017 and will be 5 years old in 2022.
The new SX serie ( 700 + 900 ) was available as of 2019 and will be 3 years old next year. 

Due to the present shortage of digital chips and the lack of containers ( to ship arranger keyboards ) all over the world, it looks like the prices have been increased ( 10% ? ) by Yamaha. Apparantly ( if not in stock ), it seems some products have a 6 months delivery time.

I do not know if the above price and lead time info is correct or has been confirmed by Yamaha. A RUMOUR, I guess ?


Does all this sad News mean we do not have to expect new products and the present product range will be continued next year ?

What about Korg ? No News either, I guess.


I am afraid only Yamaha and Korg might know the answers. ::)

Best regards, JH

Offline Toril S

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #1 on: October 08, 2021, 11:03:49 AM »
We have to enjoy what we have now and not forget that a 5 years old Genos is just as good as it was when you got it. In fact, due to updates it is actually better!! And, a keyboard is only just as good as the player. 😀
« Last Edit: October 08, 2021, 03:21:29 PM by Toril S »
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Offline tommac

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #2 on: October 08, 2021, 02:28:42 PM »
not in a hurry for a new one--just means mine is worth less when i want to sell-(which i don`t)

Offline Gunnar Jonny

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #3 on: October 08, 2021, 02:40:38 PM »
Hi.
Anyone remember which way it went with the home organ market?
I think we are close to the end when it comes to greater development of autocomp keyboards as we know them. Now DAW is the big thing, and much of the music is created using sophisticated software and computers.
The average user of 'autocomp keyboards' is mostly the elderly population, and as we know, it thins out as time goes on.
At the end, it's about sales and profit, and now there is fewer brands delivering TOTL arrangers than there were just a few years ago.
I think we saw a signal when Yamaha so kindly gave away all additional stylepackages for free. Also
Another sign may be that Korg PA4X is a couple of years older than Genos, and so far there is no serious signals about new models or updates to see.
I really hope that my predictions are completely wrong....... 🤔
Cheers 🥂
GJ
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Offline DerekA

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #4 on: October 08, 2021, 04:46:25 PM »
Given the current situation with chips and containers, I can't see this being the right time to launch a new arranger product anyway.

When Genos II does eventually arrive .. I'm sure I will want it! Whether I'm allowed to buy it or not is another question ... :)

Offline mikf

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #5 on: October 08, 2021, 05:02:39 PM »
Far from thinning out, the older population is the fastest growing segment of the market - and additionally they live longer, and are much better off. 
I think the reason there is no rush to provide a replacement Genos is a combination of the pandemic associated delays and because they reallly donít have to. The technology development is mature, there is no urgent competitive reason and simply adding features thereby making the keyboard more complicated does not really suit the older user, who is a huge part of the market. Another myth is that they need to keep giving us a reason to upgrade, but in fact most TOTL keyboards are not bought by people who own the previous TOTL keyboard. They are either new to the market or replacing much or older lesser instruments.
I would think a much bigger concern for Yamaha is that the technology is now so mature that we are reaching the point where you no longer need to spend $4000 or more to get a good keyboard. You can buy a decent instrument that is meeting many needs for $500 or less - almost at impulse buy level. That is the real threat to the TOTL arranger.
Mike
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Offline Rich Z

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #6 on: October 08, 2021, 05:52:42 PM »
I have a feeling that Yamaha is watching to see what Korg does, and Korg is watching Yamaha to see what it does.  Way back when, I thought that Korg should just combine the PA4x and the Kronos into one instrument. I really wanted an arranger, but IMHO, the Kronos just SOUNDED better to my ears. So that is what I bought, but was never really all that happy with my decision.

And honestly, rather recently I was waiting to see if that PA4x/Kronos combo would happen in the next generation Korg before I gave up waiting and wound up biting the bullet and buying the Genos. 

Maybe times have changed to where keeping two separate lines of instruments (workstations vs arrangers) has passed on by and is no longer a feasible marketing strategy?  But who knows what goes through their minds?  I can't honestly say that all decisions marketing "experts" have made has made any sense to me.
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Offline John UK

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Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2021, 06:52:29 PM »
The older generation numbers may be increasing but are those youngsters who are now older actually interested in playing music, and did they play piano, organ or keyboards at an earlier age? I personally only bought a Tyros as I used to play the organ when I was a kid. Iím not sure if I would have developed an interest in keyboards if I hadnít been introduced to playing music at an earlier age.

Regarding new keyboards from Yamaha, I think the Genos and earlier Tyros keyboards offer more than enough features for the majority of people. Even though I like technology, Iíve lost interest in upgrading to the latest model/release - thereís now few gains for the extra price you have to pay. And keeping an old model rather than checking for and wanting the next model means Iím not causing the manufacturer to use more of the Earthís resources building a new model for me. Mind you if this popup keyboard on my tablet disappears one more time I might bin it and buy a different new tablet 😅
 

Offline mikf

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2021, 07:19:17 PM »
Well there is still a lot of people who have the itch to play a musical instrument as they get older. Even if the percentage is lower, the absolute numbers are still bigger because word population has tripled in the last 70 years - that is only one generation. And John, what you see around you is a very small piece of the pie today, because you have to think globally - like Yamaha.  There is massive growth in Asia, where playing musical instruments and musical instrument sales are currently huge. We in the west still think that we set the direction, but ask anyone in consumer luxury goods and they will tell you the Asia market swamps the rest of the world. I was in Hong Kong a few years ago and it felt like there was a Tiffany store on every corner.
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Offline stephenm52

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2021, 09:16:47 PM »
Hi :

It is early October 2021.
Up to now Yamaha have not announced new arranger keyboards for delivery in 2022 yet.


I know this is about arrangers but I've been in the market for a digital piano.  Recently as in this week I've had my eyes on 3 different digital pianos one was the Yamaha p515, another was the Roland 60FPx and another the Roland RD 88.       All 3 are great pianos.  I was told by a reliable dealer that the P515 and 60FPx will not be available until the January/February time frame of 2022.  I can get a Roland RD88 in a few weeks and that's what I've chosen.  It can also be midi'ed to my Genos.   Not sure what's going on but new arrangers don't look they will be introduced very soon.
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Offline janamdo

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2021, 11:55:42 PM »
Somehow there must be coming new product from Yamaha in the (near) furure , because selling
new products its income for Yamaha ( this is not rocketscience).
I think yamaha will always (try to )differentiate between products in order to sell as much keyboards they can.
 

Offline pjd

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2021, 11:59:55 PM »
Not sure what's going on but new arrangers don't look they will be introduced very soon.

Hi Steve --

Hope all is going well!

One of the news channels ran a story about global shipping and supply chain issues. They showed a satellite image of Long Beach harbor with 62 container ships parked, waiting to unload. The situation is similar in Puget Sound (ports of Seattle and Everett).

Even if a manufacturer can make something, that something will likely be stuck in a container on a ship for weeks on end. It would be crazy business to announce a product, get people excited, and then ... ... ... ... not deliver for several months.

I'd like to buy a Roland/Boss Bluetooth expression pedal. The initial press release said October, but I doubt if I'll see it for a good long while.

Hey, hey, stay healthy -- pj
 
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Offline stephenm52

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2021, 12:31:52 AM »
HI PJ,  Great to hear from you!  Yes all is going well hope youíre doing well.   As I recall you have moved from New England.  I had read something about global shipping and the supply change being an issue.  Actually weíve experienced some delays too at home my wife ordered some new furniture some time ago and we are still waiting delivery more supply chain issues.

Likewise my friend stay healthy!
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Offline mikf

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2021, 09:00:26 AM »
Somehow there must be coming new product from Yamaha in the (near) furure , because selling
new products its income for Yamaha ( this is not rocketscience).
Janamdo -- If by new products you mean new models, then in fact, no, they don't need to launch new models to sell. They make the same income - and maybe higher profit - by continuing to sell existing models. New models - because they are expensive to develop - are regarded as a 'necessary evil' in a corporation to maintain competitive position, you do it only when , and if, you have to.
If the competitive position is not threatened then there is no urgent need. So you can throttle back and save money. As I said above, I doubt that the big threat to Yamaha is other TOTL arrangers, it's the proliferation of low cost, but good, keyboards.
One balancing factor is that they may consider that maintaining the appearance of the market leader at the top end might help them to sell bottom and middle end instruments at a premium, but right now they do not seem to be threatened as the market leader at the top end. 
Mike
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Offline EileenL

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #14 on: October 09, 2021, 01:07:53 PM »
I think us Oldies just want to sit and play a nice sounding instrument that is easy to use. We have that in Genos and SX900. It is a nice retirement hobby and will remain so. We don't clamber for all this add on electronic stuff to try and make you sound better than you are. To be honest I am betting that a lot of people do not use the half the things that are on Genos, they just pick a nice style and sit and play using there favourite voices and for me that is what it is all about. I don't worry about what might or might not be. Having come through the pandemic so far I am quite happy with what I have. Unlike Jeff I do not worry about Chips and boats getting held up.
  As they say "What will be will be"
 
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Offline stephenm52

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2021, 02:13:22 PM »
I believe our arrangers especially the Genos and SX900 are state of the art. I don't know how many more improvements can be made to Genos or the SX900 at least in the way that I use the arrangers.
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Offline soundphase

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2021, 03:48:06 PM »
I believe our arrangers especially the Genos and SX900 are state of the art. I don't know how many more improvements can be made to Genos or the SX900 at least in the way that I use the arrangers.
By using SSD and far more memory, samples for acoustic instruments could even be far better, even if they are now far better than on electronic organs 40 years ago. Piano, guitars, strings & violins for example are far to be perfect on Genos.

Offline stephenm52

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2021, 09:08:29 PM »
By using SSD and far more memory, samples for acoustic instruments could even be far better, even if they are now far better than on electronic organs 40 years ago. Piano, guitars, strings & violins for example are far to be perfect on Genos.

Sounds like no matter how advanced Genos is it can always be better.   I'm very happy with my Genos as it is today but I'm sure if a newer model was released I'd be in line to buy one :)
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Offline PdeMats

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2021, 10:01:40 AM »
I believe our arrangers especially the Genos and SX900 are state of the art. I don't know how many more improvements can be made to Genos or the SX900 at least in the way that I use the arrangers.

I'd still give a lot of use to an Unison and Accent feature that's in the less pricey SX600!
 

Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2021, 03:14:26 PM »
Apparently most of us do not believe Yamaha will launch new high end arrangers in 2022.😜

If no new toys are coming in, I may hope a new update ( at least for the SX 700 and 900 serie ) will be announced for next year though.
New styles and voices included ? Yessss ?
 Cross my fingers.🥸

No news from Korg so far.
Bye for now, JH
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Offline EileenL

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #20 on: October 10, 2021, 06:16:32 PM »
There are lots of new styles in the free packs and lots of others available from Yamaha Music Soft.
  I bet you most of us only use about thirty of our favourite styles to play our songs and a good way of freshening up a style is to go to the Style creator and use the Groove or Style assembly. It is all there on your keyboard waiting to be used.

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #21 on: October 10, 2021, 09:38:48 PM »
I think us Oldies just want to sit and play a nice sounding instrument that is easy to use. We have that in Genos and SX900. It is a nice retirement hobby and will remain so. We don't clamber for all this add on electronic stuff to try and make you sound better than you are. To be honest I am betting that a lot of people do not use the half the things that are on Genos, they just pick a nice style and sit and play using there favorite voices and for me that is what it is all about. I don't worry about what might or might not be. Having come through the pandemic so far I am quite happy with what I have. Unlike Jeff I do not worry about Chips and boats getting held up.
  As they say "What will be will be"
Eileen, as a former medical professional, I can say that your attitude could lead to a long and healthy life :D. As usual, your wisdom is much needed and appreciated. We love ya, even though 99.9% of us have never met you! Maybe some day?

Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #22 on: October 11, 2021, 08:02:22 AM »
Hi :

Wished Yamaha raised the corner of the veil by telling us what their plans are for 2022.
A wish that will never come true.  ;D

All the best, JH
 

Offline Oldden

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #23 on: October 11, 2021, 08:21:51 AM »
Donít forget that Genos and the like are only a small section of the instruments that Yamaha make. There are guitars , of which I have two. Drums, brass  woodwind plus string instruments, violins and the like, not to mention pianos. Plus stuff Iíve not seen. And there is hi-fi and stuff for the profession side of things. Itís a big, big company with there fingers in lots of places we donít even know about.
Just to say I love my Genos. Itís a better keyboard than I am player and Iím afraid always will be.
Oldden

Offline EileenL

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #24 on: October 11, 2021, 04:23:37 PM »
I really can't understand why you are so concerned Jeff. Are you not happy with what you have.

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Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #25 on: October 11, 2021, 04:30:58 PM »
By using SSD and far more memory, samples for acoustic instruments could even be far better, even if they are now far better than on electronic organs 40 years ago. Piano, guitars, strings & violins for example are far to be perfect on Genos.
IN PASR S 975 ONLY 768 MB SPACE FOR EXPANSION PACKS IN SX 900 1 GB THAT WAS LESS IF MORE SPACE WE CAN ARRANGE NICE PACKS BY CREATING WITH YEP. THEN ITS USEFULL. I,M USING PSR S 975.. FOR EXPANSION PACKS SPACE MORE NEEDED
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Offline mikf

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2021, 04:49:11 PM »
Piano, guitars, strings & violins for example are far to be perfect on Genos.
These are simulations, and darn good simulations. If you want perfect you need to use a real instrument. And the vast majority of these arrangers are bought by people who dont need perfect.
Mike

Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #27 on: October 11, 2021, 06:09:24 PM »
Oh yes, I am very happy with what I have but I am not the only person who is concerned about the future of Yamahaís production of high end arrangers.

More members of this Forum would be very pleased to hear more from Yamaha.

Best wishes, JH
 


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Offline EileenL

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2021, 12:22:15 AM »
As we all know by now when Yamaha has something to tell us they will so in the meantime enjoy what you have.

Offline mikf

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2021, 12:48:13 AM »
ÖÖÖ I am not the only person who is concerned about the future of Yamahaís production of high end arrangers.
Yes, there are a lot of people with a high interest in Yamahas next offerings ÖÖ.but most of them are dealers, not consumers. The average arranger player doesnít spend much time thinking about what is coming next  on Yamahas TOTL arranger these days, because what they already have meets or exceeds their needs. It was different when the technology was ramping up fast, but now we are on the mature part of the curve.
Mike

Offline stephenm52

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #30 on: October 12, 2021, 01:36:48 AM »
Yes, there are a lot of people with a high interest in Yamahas next offerings ÖÖ.but most of them are dealers, not consumers. The average arranger player doesnít spend much time thinking about what is coming next  on Yamahas TOTL arranger these days, because what they already have meets or exceeds their needs. It was different when the technology was ramping up fast, but now we are on the mature part of the curve.
Mike
Mike, You are spot on with your comments.
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Offline DerekA

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #31 on: October 12, 2021, 08:57:35 AM »
Probably true, but I don't think there's any harm in some idle discussion about what might be. How much of our daily conversation is around speculating wildly about what might happen whether it's about family, work, sport, whatever.

There's no need to read / contribute to a thread if you don't like the topic!
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Offline Toril S

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #32 on: October 12, 2021, 09:02:28 AM »
I will haul out my crystal ball and look into it to find out what Yamaha is workng on😀😀
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Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #33 on: October 12, 2021, 09:42:32 AM »
As far as I am concerned -  I started this thread :) - I will end this conversation8)

We do not know the answer ... time will tell ... and like Eileen is saying : " Enjoy what you have ". She is absolutely right.

Keep smiling, JH

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Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #34 on: October 12, 2021, 01:34:01 PM »
If I may Jeff, and to yours and Mike's point...

For years, I have used my arrangers' styles in the left hand and only piano or e.piano in the right hand. In other words, my bases have been well covered by just a fraction of what those arrangers could do. I have recently been hired by a very good R&B band and they need lots of pianos, brass and wind sections, solo brass, solo winds, string sections, and a boat load of B3 samples for making their music sound authentic. This has forced me to open the trunk full of Genos voices that I've never used. I have a few hurdles to overcome on the B3 organ front but I'll get there. Aside from that, the voices I mentioned sound amazing and even better in a mix with the other band members.

As Mike said about reaching the "peak of the curve," where Yamaha has come very close to the sound the actual instruments make - where do you go from up? For Yamaha to beat what they have created in the Genos, it would take a miracle.

Rather than a bunch of new voices, we'll probably see more tools for using those voices. A prime example for me is a separate mixer control screen for the drum kits' individual part volumes. That would be a major improvement. I say this because virtually every kick drum is WAY too loud when played over decent sound systems. It would be nice to turn it down without having to go through all the hoops of creating a User kit, and just saving it as a registration. Being able to EQ a certain drum instrument would also be nice. Maybe there's a way to do this and I have just missed it? I wouldn't be surprised.

Okay Jeff, now I'm done. Thanks ;D!
 

Offline soundphase

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #35 on: October 12, 2021, 02:20:35 PM »
These are simulations, and darn good simulations. If you want perfect you need to use a real instrument. And the vast majority of these arrangers are bought by people who dont need perfect.
Mike

A lot of soundtracks are composed on DAWs with samples and no real instruments.
I like the Genos a lot. But I extensively use the free CMS samples. So, that's not a reason for me to consider it's not interesting to have better sounds.

Perhaps the vast majority of arrangers buyers don't need perfect sounds. To be honest, I have no idea at all as I don't have access to market analysis.
 

Offline janamdo

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #36 on: October 12, 2021, 03:09:07 PM »
I will haul out my crystal ball and look into it to find out what Yamaha is workng on😀😀
Hey Toril,
What does your crystal ball tells you about the new coming psr keyboards ;D
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Offline DerekA

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #37 on: October 12, 2021, 03:56:10 PM »
Being able to EQ a certain drum instrument would also be nice. Maybe there's a way to do this and I have just missed it? I wouldn't be surprised.

Have a look at the Drum Setup function within the style creator. You can adjust the sound of individual drums in a number of ways (not EQ, but level), then save as a user style.
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Offline Toril S

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #38 on: October 12, 2021, 04:22:34 PM »
It tells me that we have ro wait for the answer😀😀
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Offline keynote

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #39 on: October 12, 2021, 05:29:17 PM »
I think the Genos is currently sufficient for most if not all of our keyboard needs for now. Whether gigging, studio production, recording, mixing, etc., or home hobbyists who play for their own enjoyment, the Genos is great for what it is. HOWEVER, there is ALWAYS room for improvement. MIDI 2.0 is now officially certified and hopefully, when the Genos successor arrives on the scene it will once again blow away the competition and include MIDI 2.0 implementation. Yamaha has had plenty of time to produce a Genos successor but there have been some obstacles to the process as we know. The COVID global pandemic, global Chip shortage, Container Ship backlog, and bottleneck, and Yamaha's new business model of releasing products on a more suitable timetable. Yamaha knows the Genos is top shelf and still the current reigning champion of arranger keyboards currently on the market. Sorry, Korg.  ;) So there's really no rush if you know what I mean. And these delays give Yammie a wonderful opportunity, so to speak, to focus on providing a Genos successor that is truly a game-changer as far as new features, functions, and overall sound quality that potentially induces a lot of hype (and hope) which meets or exceeds our expectations. Yes, it will probably cost an arm and a leg but the current Genos still holds quite a bit of value as a trade-in. I'm thinking it will be released in 2023, 2024, or thereabouts. For instance, the Montage has been around since March of 2016 but Yamaha still hasn't released a successor. But of course, the Montage is still receiving OS updates as far as I understand which keeps Montage owners quite happy I would think in the interim. But I do think Yamaha has slammed the door shut on new OS updates for the Genos in my opinion. So potentially we could see a Genos successor released before a new Yamaha synth is announced.  👍     

Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #40 on: October 12, 2021, 07:44:06 PM »
Only Yamaha can answer your questions.
 
All speculations are useless.

Wait and see.

That is all folks.
Amen. :)

Bye for now. JH
 

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #41 on: October 12, 2021, 07:46:36 PM »
Have a look at the Drum Setup function within the style creator. You can adjust the sound of individual drums in a number of ways (not EQ, but level), then save as a user style.
Thanks, DerekA. I'll look into that.
 

Offline Toril S

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #42 on: October 13, 2021, 08:58:07 PM »
LOL! Jeff is trying to close the topic, but we rave on. Keyboarders always like to dream and speculate😀😀 It is fun😀
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Offline Roger Brenizer

Re: No Yamaha News is good News ?
« Reply #43 on: October 13, 2021, 10:15:24 PM »
Enough has probably been said concerning this issue.  I've closed this topic pursuant to your request, Jeff.  :)
"Music Is My Life"
My best regards,
Roger

(The older I get...the better I used to be...LOL!!!)
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