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Offline tyros2009

Chord lopper question
« on: September 22, 2021, 08:37:51 PM »
I do a quick test on Genos chord looper by selecting a 3/4 style, enter chord recording, play a sequence of chords.
Then save this in slot#1 of the chord bank.
Playing back the chord looper, it plays as expected.
Now, I select a 4/4 style, play the same chord loop. Surprise, it still plays in 3/4, I expect it to play in 4/4 time.
Did I do something wrong ? or did I expect too much ???

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Offline vlbrgt

Re: Chord lopper question
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2021, 10:09:57 PM »
A chordlooper file is a sequence of chords that will be played at a specific time, defined when creating the chordloop.
What does this means :
You play a 3/4 style and record the chords.
Let say that each first beat of a measure you play a chord.
First chord will be at 0. The next chord will be 5760 ticks further in the sequence (5760 = 3 x 1920 PPQN).
The following chord will be again 5760 ticks further ....

Using this chordloop with a 4/4 style will not change the ticks between the chords.
This means that the first chord at 0 is correct but the next chord will fall on the 3th beat of the first 4/4 measure (5760).
But in a 4/4 style it should be at tick 7680 (4 x 1920 PPQN).

Each beat in a x/4 time signature counts 1920 ticks.
For a x/8 time signature each beat will be 960 ticks.

Solution 1 : re-record chordlooper for a 4/4 style
Solution 2 : try to create the chordloop on PC with MixMaster (Only cld)
See topic :
https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,52968.msg413104.html#msg413104

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Offline ugawoga

Re: Chord lopper question
« Reply #2 on: September 24, 2021, 06:04:30 PM »
Waste of time
Take your time and learn to play both hands
It is easier than playing a piano, because you do not have to coordinate so much and later in life if you are a late starter, you have time on your hands or not ;D All depends on the Grim Reaper ::)
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Offline BartW

Re: Chord lopper question
« Reply #3 on: September 24, 2021, 06:12:04 PM »
Waste of time
Take your time and learn to play both hands

Except when you need two hands to solo over chord changes (e.g. Jazz). I use the chord looper exactly for this function. Record the chord changes and this frees my left hand for soloing. It is a very valuable tool. Also, when using a synth solo, it is nice to have the chord changes done automatically by the band so you can use your left hand for the joystick.
 

Offline Rich Z

Re: Chord lopper question
« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2021, 01:10:16 AM »
Waste of time
Take your time and learn to play both hands
It is easier than playing a piano, because you do not have to coordinate so much and later in life if you are a late starter, you have time on your hands or not ;D All depends on the Grim Reaper ::)

Perhaps that is just the way he WANTS to learn or do something. Not everyone does everything the same way everyone else does.
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Offline tyros2009

Re: Chord lopper question
« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2021, 02:09:04 AM »
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Perhaps that is just the way he WANTS to learn or do something. Not everyone does everything the same way everyone else does.

AGREED 100%.
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Re: Chord lopper question
« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2021, 01:34:21 PM »
Tyros2009...way off topic here, but I love your cat pic! It looks like my daughter's recently deceased cat. Beautiful colors! His name was "Milo."
Sorry to digress from your question :o.
"Learn" your music correctly, then "practice" it. Don't practice mistakes because you'll learn them.