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Yinon:
Hi Everyone,

I tried looking for it but couldn't find it ...
Is there a way to assign specific voice, effect to the Articulations buttons (1,2 and 3)?
Is it possible to be done with YEM? Can we do it directly in the Genos?

I'm trying to create an acoustic guitar sound for strumming and hoping I can have Art 1 as a trigger for playin a cord and Art 2 as choking/muting the strings.
(This mode exists in some of the advanced software pluming but I'm trying to keep it simple)
I'm not sure it this is the right way to approach it.
Or maybe this exists in a Mega Voice somewhere?

Need your expertise here :-) Any thoughts?

Thanks,
-Yinon.

pjd:
Hello Yinon --

Unfortunately, most everything about articulations is already cooked into the Super Articulation and SArt2 voices. Voice Edit affects the most basic voice characteristics like filter resonance, cut-off, etc. Voice Edit is not as deep as voice editing in the Yamaha synthesizer products.

YEM is not much help, either. YEM cannot edit SArt or SArt2 voices. Yamaha have never publicly described the internals of SArt or SArt2 voices to the extent needed for detailed voice editing.

There are definitely ways to program Genos voices to do what you want -- we all can hear examples in the factory SArt and SArt2 voices. Unfortunately, Yamaha doesn't give us access.

SArt voices are a combination of regular Yamaha-architecture voice programming and software scripting. It is possible to create unique MegaVoice voices in YEM with a few limitations:

    http://sandsoftwaresound.net/genos-voice-editing-yem/
    http://sandsoftwaresound.net/genos-voice-editing-xml-notepad/
    http://sandsoftwaresound.net/genos-voice-editing-an-example/
    http://sandsoftwaresound.net/genos-voice-editing-blending-the-split-point/

Unfortunately, you'll be limited to key ranges and velocity ranges as your primary controls -- no buttons. Montage/MODX sound designers find this highly frustrating (no Expanded Articulation).

Hope this helps -- pj

Jeff Hollande:
Hi PJ  :

Thank you so much for your very clear explanation.

Always interesting and useful to know the ins and outs to understand better why things are working or not working.

Do you expect Yamaha will continu YEM in the near future
( Genos2  ? ) or ... what should / could be improved ?

Plse advise.

Thanks and best regards, JH

Yinon:
Thanks PJ!

I appreciate the detailed answer.
You did mentioned there are few ways to get to a the strumming effect I'm looking for.

(I do not want to strum with a pad and tempo as this is played live. I want to strum real time).
Any thoughts of how this can be done?

Thanks,
-Yinon.

pjd:
Hi Yinon --

Gotta ask -- Have you experimented with the Genos Arpeggio feature? Genos Owner's Manual, page 57. There are guitar strumming patterns, including MegaVoice. Genos Data List, page page 74. The "Arpeggio/MegaGuitar" patterns are meant to be used with MegaVoice guitar and have various effects like fret noise or whatever.

I'm not sure if voice editing is the path to the solution. With respect to strums, there are so many factors to be controlled: what notes to play (major/minor/etc.), voicing, tempo.

At the voice level, I thought about a voice with three or four elements where each element is assigned a pitch: root, root+3rd, root+5th. The start time of each element needs to be delayed by a little bit to get the strum effect.

Of course, one needs both major and minor, but there are so many chord types! The voicing is fixed and the strum speed doesn't change with tempo. That's why an arpeggio-based approach would be more flexible.

I don't believe there is a way to create user arpeggios. (Bummer.) The only other available approach is Multipad. At least we can create new Multipads...

Hope this idea helps -- pj

P.S. Saw your reference to "pad" and maybe you already considered Multipads. Sorry.

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