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my next Yamaha keyboard
« on: July 20, 2021, 07:43:57 PM »
Hello everyone!
I understand that unlike many of the topics on this board, I am asking about my next keyboard, rather than talking about suggestions for keyboards that aren't out yet. This can be moved to the appropriate board if necessary. However, I will most likely be buying my next keyboard in five months, but I have so many options to choose from. They all have good and bad things about them, and I need help/suggestions/advice for which one to choose.
I currently have a PSR-SX600. While some of the sounds on it are good, such as the ConcertGuitar, I believe Yamaha should have chosen more up-to-date versions of some of the instruments. A few examples are the FlamencoGuitar, the BrushKit (I'm using the names of the voices on this keyboard), the ConcertGrand, and so many more. In addition, the pitch bend and modulation wheels, as well as the keyboard type, are really not that great.
I am considering a few options, but there are problems with all of them for me. I'm thinking about either the PSR-SX900, the PSR-A5000 (as I plan to do some world music), or the older Tyros 5. Here are my reasons for considering each one, as well as the problems:
The PSR-SX900 has way better sounds, including the newer versions of the voices listed above. However, since I am blind, I can't use the touch screen to play the on-board demos for the voices, or choose others. I understand that VoiceGuide can help, but I read in another topic here that VoiceGuide is limited, and more suitable for partially sighted, rather than blind people.
While the Tyros 5 is older, it has many of the sounds found on the SX900 (except for many of the drums.) It even has S.Art2! voices, which PSR keyboards lack. Luckily for me, it has buttons rather than a touch screen, so I can play the demos much easier. However, I really like the drums of the SX900, that are mini versions of the Revo!drums of the Genos.
While the PSR-A5000 has a few of the drums found on the Genos (and many more that aren't), it still lacks in a few ways. For example, the ConcertGrand is the only S.Art! piano; the rest are Live! voices, versions that aren't that great-sounding and don't have great demos. It doesn't even have the eight best organs that are on all the others. However, it does have many voices from around the world, that I know I'll want to use. As I said in my channel trailer, after going on a virtual tour of a few museums last year, I found that I want to write music with elements of other countries mixed in.
All of these keyboards are wonderful, I can't decide which one I want. All of them have great sounds, some more so than others, but they all have their own features that make all three shine (unlike my current keyboard, as I stated.)
I'm sorry for this post being so long, but there are so many things that make me want each one. Since I can only choose one, I have no idea which one I really want.
Help is appreciated.
Alex

Re: my next Yamaha keyboard
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2021, 08:02:38 PM »
I Agree. yamaha will bring something oyt.
 

Re: my next Yamaha keyboard
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2021, 11:03:59 PM »
The thing about the A5000 and SX900 is that I just can't use the touch screen. When I contacted Yamaha a few weeks ago about the voice demos, they said they can only be accessed by the touch screen, and that more keyboards will have them. If I (and others) can't even use them, what's the point in having them on there?
 

Re: my next Yamaha keyboard
« Reply #3 on: November 03, 2021, 03:46:28 AM »
I have done a lot of research since my last post, but I am still having a very hard time deciding. I have taken one option off the list, the A5000. It comes down to the PSR-SX900 or the Tyros 5. Here are the pros and cons of each, that I am aware of (and that may be useful for a decision.)
SX900 pros:
can install expansion packs the same way as my SX600
Bluetooth audio
drums based on the Revo!drums of the Genos
1 GB expansion voice memory
best speakers
SX900 cons:
touch screen (I am completely blind)
no S.Art2! voices
no ensemble voices
pros of Tyros 5:
has both grand and upright pianos (like the SX900, but I didn't say it above)
buttons instead of a touch screen
a gigabyte of expansion memory (with module)
61 or 76 keys
better keys than SX900
aftertouch
Tyros 5 cons:
older keyboard
has pitch bend/modulation wheels rather than a joystick
doesn't have Revo!drums or anything close to them
doesn't have control knobs
no speakers
I still have no idea which one to choose.
 

Offline Aquilauno

Re: my next Yamaha keyboard
« Reply #4 on: November 03, 2021, 08:44:23 AM »
Hi Alex
It is a problem that should be addressed by Yamaha (how to structure the touchscreen for the blind) .While the home screen could be easily memorized by taking the edges of the LCD screen as orientation, the complexity of the specific screens remains, these could also be memorized. (there are not many ones that are usually used in play), perhaps with audio alerts sent only to headphones and not to the speakers, regarding what is selected on the touchscreen, including the name of the style or the values ​​set for each voice (it would also be useful for the visually impaired).
The ideal would be to integrate, in  the  future keyboards, the voice recognition... (as happens on more complex satellite navigators) in my opinion it would be feasible perhaps with a plugin at the request of the customer to be installed on a special slot.
Pietro
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Offline DerekA

Re: my next Yamaha keyboard
« Reply #5 on: November 03, 2021, 02:17:09 PM »
If the touch screen is a dealbreaker for you then you don't really have a choice : Tyros 5.

If you really want 76 keys, you don't really have a choice : Tyros 5.

If you do have a choice, personally I would go for SX900 over Tyros 5. The live control options plus the newer tone generator chip make a material difference. But that's just my opinion.
Genos
 

Re: my next Yamaha keyboard
« Reply #6 on: November 03, 2021, 06:42:28 PM »
Thank you for telling me this. The only real drawback with the SX900 for me is the touch screen. I am unable to listen to the demos of each voice on the SX900 unless someone is able to give .mid files of them. I really like the voice demos.
 

Offline EileenL

Re: my next Yamaha keyboard
« Reply #7 on: November 03, 2021, 06:55:02 PM »
There is a voice guide you can download so that when you touch things on the screen it will tell you what you have selected.

https://europe.yamaha.com/en/support/updates/psr_sx900_700_vg.html

Online Toril S

Re: my next Yamaha keyboard
« Reply #8 on: November 03, 2021, 07:09:46 PM »
If possible, download the voice guide file for the SX900 on a USB stick. Then go to a music store and say you want to try it on their demo model. There are people on this forum that use the voice guide, so it works. But it must be developed further.
Toril S

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