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Offline Martin1971

Psr sx600 crappy sound midi files
« on: May 01, 2021, 08:29:46 PM »
Hello everybody,

Just bought a new psr sx600 after selling my good old psr s550.
Where my s550 did a wonderful job playing (XG)midi files, the sx 600 sounds like ****!
Don't even know how to describe the sound... Voices sound like a cheap pc soundcard, or even better: an '80's keyboard.
What the hell am i doing wrong?
 

Offline Toril S

Re: Psr sx600 crappy sound midi files
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2021, 09:07:55 PM »
Sounds like the MIDI files are not really compatible with the SX600.
Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

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Offline Martin1971

Re: Psr sx600 crappy sound midi files
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2021, 12:00:07 AM »
Are still the same midi files as ever...XG midi files,they do play, but the instruments sound different, more as if there are no XG voices on the keyboard.
In my old s550 the difference between the XG voices and the gs/gm/GM2 voices was huge... On the sx600 they sound the same
 

Offline Toril S

Re: Psr sx600 crappy sound midi files
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2021, 12:05:34 AM »
Record a MIDI song on the keyboard to check if that sounds all right.
« Last Edit: May 02, 2021, 11:56:39 AM by Toril S »
Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

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Offline hans1966

Re: Psr sx600 crappy sound midi files
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2021, 03:17:24 AM »
Hi Martin, the SX600 is an excellent keyboard.

I would change the XG format voices to the SX600's preset voices, and use the on-board mixer to work the master EQ and effects on each of your MIDI songs.

after this it would save the MIDI files (in this case songs) with the new settings.
I hope this helps a bit

Regards.

Hans
 

Offline johan

Re: Psr sx600 crappy sound midi files
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2021, 08:33:08 PM »
On the SX700, I also have the impression that the midi voices (GM but indeed also XG) are rather poor compared to the so called panel voices. This is quite ok for using them in styles (sometimes this is even an advantage in that case) but they are much less suited for playing midi files. You could play your files on a PC to compare the sound with your SX600. You can use any midi player on PC. Note that the standard Windows MIDI synth is very weak so you will also need a decent midi synthesizer (such as the free VirtualMIDISynth from Coolsoft with for instance “Timbres of Heaven” for the GM/XG samples).
SX700 and S670
Former keyboard: E433, E463
 

Offline Francesco Massa

Re: Psr sx600 crappy sound midi files
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2021, 07:41:06 AM »
Try to use the Mega Enhancer software. It converts some voices into megavoice type and could give you better results.
However, I think that every kind of revoice always needs a bit of editing

Francesco
Genos
Previously owned: PSR-740, Tyros2, Tyros3, Tyros4 & Tyros5
 

Offline janamdo

Re: Psr sx600 crappy sound midi files
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2021, 02:18:35 PM »
Well i suspect that there are better midi files are to get, then in XG format for SX600.
Do have also a SX600 , so i am curious if there are quality midi's for sx600 that goes  beyond  XG midi quality?
 

Offline EileenL

Re: Psr sx600 crappy sound midi files
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2021, 10:39:53 PM »
Have you looked on the Yamaha Music soft site.

Offline janamdo

Re: Psr sx600 crappy sound midi files
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2021, 11:21:42 PM »
Thanks
A good idea to do
 

Re: Psr sx600 crappy sound midi files
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2021, 02:10:24 AM »
Hello Martin,

I had the same bad experience when loading to my new PSR SX900, a lot of midi files that sound very well in my old PSR2000 and that I need/appreciate.  The alternative, nothing to do, you have to edit each file, changing in some cases to a newer voice, adjust EQ parameters like volume, reverb, chorus, sometimes modulation, etc etc, and now they sound real better than before, but believe me, It's a lot of work to do depending on the ammount of midi files you have, at the end you will be a pro i  editing midi files. It's difficult to find on the web new versions of these old midi files, they were created few years ago, and still ramain that way without  any new updates, so, you will have to edit your files, according to your taste and needs, beleive me.

Best regards

Bernardo
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Offline chris-59

Re: Psr sx600 crappy sound midi files
« Reply #11 on: June 16, 2021, 05:00:24 PM »
Hi there, I don't experience any problem with the midifiles I own.
The SX600 supports GM, GM2, GS & XG where let's say a MODX only supports MIDI GM.
It's a huge difference in favour of the SX600.
cheers,
Chris
What a wonderful World!
 

Offline tyros2009

Re: Psr sx600 crappy sound midi files
« Reply #12 on: June 29, 2021, 11:10:55 PM »
If MIDI files are created on a Yamaha keyboards, they will play fine on SX600. I have verified this with tons of MIDI songs I have (on Tyros3)
If MIDI files are created on other keyboards, you may have to remap the voices.

Korg PA-50, Yamaha YPG-235, E443, EW410, YPT400, Tyros3, Genos
 

Offline tyros2009

Re: Psr sx600 crappy sound midi files
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2021, 01:21:53 AM »
Today I verified that some MIDI songs (origin unknown, from friends) sound CRAPPY on my SX600 too.
All MIDI songs I recorded on my Tyros3 and on this SX600 sound GREAT.

Korg PA-50, Yamaha YPG-235, E443, EW410, YPT400, Tyros3, Genos