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Offline Dnj

How to setup a user playlist on the SX600?
« on: April 10, 2021, 05:47:56 PM »
HOW TO SETUP A USER PLAYLIST ON SX600? 
CAN ANYONE PLEASE EXPLAIN THE PROCESS?
OR Is there a video Tutorial on How to setup a user playlist anywhere I can see it done?
a simple step by step procedure is what I am looking for besides the manual.. amazing how difficult this is to find.
I want to create a user playlist with about 100 of my songs etc, ..
Reading it or seeing it done on video makes a big difference in learning the process..
Thank you for any help with this please.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2021, 02:24:55 PM by Dnj »
 


Offline Dnj

 janamdo I could be the right tool for someone who needs the charts music lyric etc, using an iPad, ...
but all I want to know is how to create a USER Playlist on the SX600.?
« Last Edit: April 10, 2021, 11:06:19 PM by Dnj »
 

Offline janamdo

I own also a sx 6oo and i remember it is not that easy to make a playlist
Its about registration memory ..if you add this record add your playlist ..you get a playlist

A playlist is a serie of registration memory records what can be saved as a playlist

note: perhaps this is complicated making a playlist with the sx600 and much easier with the sx 700/900/tyros   ?
« Last Edit: April 10, 2021, 11:25:13 PM by janamdo »
 

Offline ckobu

@Dnj - Watch this video, it was shot on Genos but the principle is the same on the PSR SX600. (eng subtitle)
As @janamdo said - "A playlist is a serie of registration memory records what can be saved as a playlist"
that's the point and you need to create a Registration Bank first.

https://youtu.be/rxnn8LA6Vao

Offline Dnj

"A playlist is a series of registration memory records what can be saved as a playlist"
that's the point and you need to create a Registration Bank first.
https://youtu.be/rxnn8LA6Vao

ckobo........Thank you for your reply. I will look at this video.
The fact that a Playlist can only be created from a "Registration banks" is what is confusing.
I have been using Yamaha arrangers for years so i know the reg saving process very well.....
these newer models we a bit unclear.
Please follow me ....Let's just say I setup a REG folder called "MY SONGS"
then I setup and save 50 songs of all genres etcm,,...and save them all in the "MY SONGS REG FOLDER"
Now I follow the step by step procedure to create a playlist using "ALL 50 SONGS IN THE MY SONGS REG FOLDER"
It seems only the REG Folders are put in the Playlist first....
then you open the REG Folder within the list to see the songs? is that right?
this is what is confusing? Once done I now have a playlist of 50 songs I can scroll through to select and play.
Also will they all be alphabetical in the list too?..or?

Anyone please confirm the above or correct me ..

Appreciate it

Thanx

This video shows the procedure to a point. But why doesn't Yamaha have an Official Tutorial
on how to use the playlist. I am sure I am not the only one confused by it workings on all SX models and Genos?
« Last Edit: April 11, 2021, 02:08:51 PM by Dnj »
 

Offline ckobu

You need to understand the Yamaha playlist as a list of REGISTRATION BANKS.
Each Bank has one place on the Playlist.
If you want to automatically activate a song (one of your 50 tracks) at that point, you define it via the EDIT field. Watch that part from 05:10 seconds of my video.
When you watch the whole video it will be much clearer to you.

Offline Dnj

I also found this video explaining the Playlist @ 1:29 - 1:32

Thank you for your help...little by little I am starting to understand the Playlist workings..
« Last Edit: April 11, 2021, 02:22:06 PM by Dnj »
 

Offline ckobu

.....
This video shows the procedure to a point. But why doesn't Yamaha have an Official Tutorial
on how to use the playlist. I am sure I am not the only one confused by it workings on all SX models and Genos?

Great. Now keep working and if something is not clear to you, feel free to ask.

Yes, Yamaha definitely has bad instructions and a lack of quality explanations on YouTube  :( . Fortunately, a large number of users have made many videos that are very helpful.

Offline Dnj

ckobu.......thanx for your help..
I am on my way to success with the playlist feature. :)
I appreciate you.

take care

Offline janamdo

I was also battling with the playlist on SX600 at the begin and find it still complicated

Don't get a grip on it from the screens on the sx600 after not practising it for some months ago

It is only by carefuly studying the manual that you can decipher how it works or a good video
There was a point i did the handling of the playlist correct, but right now ..i must find it out again

Note: i don't know if this playlist handling is much easier on sx700/900? if yes then SX600 is not userfriendly
« Last Edit: April 11, 2021, 07:53:29 PM by janamdo »
 

Offline ton37

The only difference is that working with the touchscreen makes it a bit easier. I think the underlying technique of the playlists is the same.
My best regards,
Ton
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Former KB:Technics Sx-Kn7000, Tyros 5/76, Genos, S770, S975.
 

Offline Dnj

The only difference is that working with the touchscreen makes it a bit easier. I think the underlying technique of the playlists is the same.

Ton37 as long as i can scroll and select songs rapidly I'm happy...
when I had my Genos, Sx900, Sx700 I always just used REG banks to select songs...
but this time with the SX600 I will try the playlist method.

Offline ton37

I was .............

Note: i don't know if this playlist handling is much easier on sx700/900? if yes then SX600 is not userfriendly
thanks DNJ, but I was referring to Janamdo's question.
My best regards,
Ton
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Former KB:Technics Sx-Kn7000, Tyros 5/76, Genos, S770, S975.
 

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Offline Dnj

DNJ,    Is this any help

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sogxbIJw8A

Allen

Allen Thank you for the wonderful demo on the playlist.
Question:...After you select a song it turns green ready to go, and you start to play,....
can you go out of playlist to the main screen again and go back to the playlist screen easily with the touch of a button or?

Thanx
 

Offline overover

... can you go out of playlist to the main screen again and go back to the playlist screen easily with the touch of a button or? ...

Yes, to leave the Playlist display press [Exit] button, and to call up the Playlist display again press [Playlist] button.

Quote from page 88 of the PSR-SX600 Owner's Manual:

"Press the [PLAYLIST] button to call up the Playlist display.
The Playlist file which was selected the last time appears."



Best regards,
Chris
Everyone always said: "This is not possible!" - Then someone came and ... just did it!
 

Offline Dnj

Chris once again thank you appreciate your help.
 

Offline Dnj

Hi everyone, ...
I'm still a bit confused on the Playlist feature...
please try to follow me & remember this is for the Yamaha SX600 which seems different then on the
SX700/Sx900/Genos?
I was successful in creating a Playlist using all my registration bank folders.
Now when I press the Playlist Button I see a list of all my REG banks folders on the Playlist.
I can now Scroll up or down using the wheel and then press ENTER to HIGHLIGHT my REG folder selection it turns Green...
On the bottom menu if I push INFO the Reg Folder OPENS UP showing ALL 8 songs in that folder but
I cannot scroll using the wheel to go down or up the list, you have to use the arrow buttons for that
am I correct so far or am I missing a step?
My next question is on the SX600 if I want to make a List of ALL MY SONGS IN ALL REG FOLDERS so I can scroll up or down do I have to put ALL my SONGS in ONE REG FOLDER so that when I open it in the Playlist I can scroll thru them ALL up or down? how is this possible if only 8 songs can be put in a REG Folder at one time?
I am trying to emulate the KORG songbook using the Sx600 Playlist feature if that's possible.. just one list of all songs to scroll thru.

confused :-[


« Last Edit: April 16, 2021, 08:48:59 PM by Dnj »
 

Offline muddy

Hi

Just make a new playlist and keep adding the songs from different folders till all songs are added in the list then save as a separate playlist and name it as a master playlist.

A playlist is just a list to point to where the regs are to be found.

Book 1 playlist is pointing to 20 regs in regs folder book1
Book 2 playlist is pointing to 157 regs in regs folder book2
Master playlist is pointing to 177 regs in regs folders book1 + book2

Add more pointers to regs when required and save master playlist.

I am thinking of making a EZ play playlist with ALL my EZplay music that i have in my >13000 regs in Mobilesheets for when I am feeling lazy and just want some easy music to read.

Hope this helps

Dave
« Last Edit: April 17, 2021, 10:05:18 AM by muddy »
 

Offline Dnj

Dave....
all I want is ONE Playlist with ALL my songs on it to scroll though..is this possible?
also how many songs in a folder can the playlist show on the SX600 at this point I only see 8 songs on the list
what am I missing?
« Last Edit: April 17, 2021, 01:41:30 PM by Dnj »
 

Offline Fred Smith

Dave....
all I want is ONE Playlist with ALL my songs on it to scroll though..is this possible?
also how many songs in a folder can the playlist show on the SX600 at this point I only see 8 songs on the list
what am I missing?

Why bother? Why not just scroll through the registrations?

Also, please donít use "folder" when referring to registrations. Itís confusing. A folder is a collection of files, and can refer to any set of files.

Whatís clearer is to say "button" when referring to one registration, and "bank" when referring to the set of 8.

Cheers,
Fred
Fred Smith,
Saskatoon, SK
Sun Lakes, AZ
Genos, Bose L1 compacts, Finale 2015
Check out my Registration Lessons
 

Offline Dnj

Why bother? Why not just scroll through the registrations?
Cheers,
Fred

Ok Fred, little by little I am realizing on the sX600 what I wanted to achieve using the playlist can not be done.
I guess I will have to use the Reg banks as I always have on all my Yamaha units thru the years to search for songs.
Hopefully in the future they will redesign it.   

PS: understood on the "folder reference"

thanx


« Last Edit: April 18, 2021, 01:29:58 PM by Dnj »
 

Offline janamdo

Re: How to setup a user playlist on the SX600?
« Reply #23 on: April 18, 2021, 05:51:57 PM »
Yeah , the playlist feature of the SX600  ;D
There are some preset and you can only make a playlist on user disk from keyboard or on USB

A playlist is a list of registrations
A full registration memory slots  is a bank 

Make all your tweaks on the keyboard and store this in a memory slot via the memory button
Together - and +  for the registrations two buttons gives a list

I must also practice again with this feature of the "playlist"
 

Offline muddy

Re: How to setup a user playlist on the SX600?
« Reply #24 on: April 19, 2021, 10:41:30 AM »
Hi DNJ

It IS possible to make a playlist of All your REGISTRATIONS I have just added 80 songs to a EZ Master Playlist from different locations in a couple of minutes to see if it can be done (that I created) from different "FOLDERS of Banks" each folder has multiple banks of registration (one for each song) and each bank has  up to 10 (on the Genos) buttons

1 To create a Master Playlist open the playlist screen create a NEW playlist
2 Select LIST
3 Navigate to the place you have stored your desired Regs either USER or USB drive (i.e. book 1 or what ever i.e. Waltzes)
4 Select the ones you want or use the ALL option
5 Select ADD to Playlist
6 Repeat from step 3 If you need to Add more from a different place (i.e. book 2 or what ever i.e. Latin)

7 Navigate to the place you want to save select Save and rename to Master

These playlist can be made and named as you wish i.e. OAP home or Kids birthday party or something you will recognise.

I have hundreds of playlists at the moment (some with over 1000 regs attached to them) most are individual music books, 13000 regs linked to a program called Mobilesheets that loads the sheet music up when a linked registration is called from the playlist. It also does it the other way round , calls an associated  reg when I load a sheet music in the program.



Have a look at https://www.kraftmusic.com/media/ownersmanual/Yamaha_PSR-SX600_Owners_Manual.pdf for a more in depth explanation for the PSX 600

dave

Offline Dnj

Re: How to setup a user playlist on the SX600?
« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2021, 09:02:06 PM »
Muddy on the sx600 I have followed your instruction with success to a point ...I was able to add ALL reg banks to Playlist..
I can scroll down or up the list ..select what reg bank I want and press Enter it turns Green...
but there is no way to see what songs are in the reg bank without the extra step of pushing INFO on the bottom of display
you can only put 8 songs in each bank..there is no way to put the ALL songs in one bank? what am I missing?
 

Offline Fred Smith

Re: How to setup a user playlist on the SX600?
« Reply #26 on: April 19, 2021, 09:44:50 PM »
Muddy on the sx600 I have followed your instruction with success to a point ...I was able to add ALL reg banks to Playlist..
I can scroll down or up the list ..select what reg bank I want and press Enter it turns Green...
but there is no way to see what songs are in the reg bank without the extra step of pushing INFO on the bottom of display
you can only put 8 songs in each bank..there is no way to put the ALL songs in one bank? what am I missing?

What does "ALL songs in one bank" mean? Do you mean all songs from one bank?

If so, you can easily do this in playlists.

If you have more than one song in a bank, just specify the button number you want the playlist entry to activate.

For example,
-- Jailhouse Rock, Reg bank Elvis01, Button 1
-- Don't be Cruel, Reg bank Elvis01, Button 2
-- Return to Sender, Reg bank Elvis01, Button 3

Etc.

Cheers,
Fred
Fred Smith,
Saskatoon, SK
Sun Lakes, AZ
Genos, Bose L1 compacts, Finale 2015
Check out my Registration Lessons
 

Offline muddy

Re: How to setup a user playlist on the SX600?
« Reply #27 on: April 20, 2021, 12:37:13 PM »
In Freds example Jailhouse rock        would have to be a Bank with 8 buttons available
                          Don't be Cruel       would have to be a another Bank with 8 buttons available
                          Return to Sender   would have to be a Another Bank with 8 buttons available

So lets say these songs are in a 3 Banks are in a folder on a USB Drive called Elvis songs
And you have a 3 song banks of Frank Sinatra songs on a USB Drive in a folder called Frank Sinatra

Thats a total of 6 songs in 6 banks in 2 folders on the usb drive

To make a PLAYLIST of them 6 songs you would
1 To create a Master Playlist open the playlist screen create a NEW playlist
2 Select LIST
3 Navigate to the place you have stored your desired Elvis Registration bank Jailhouse Rock either USER or USB drive
4 Select Jailhouse Rock
5 Select ADD to Playlist
6 Repeat from step 3  Don't be Cruel
7 Repeat from step 3  Return to Sender
8 Repeat from step 3 but this time for Frank Sinatra's 3 Songs
9 Save as Master when finished

You will now have a Master PLAYLIST with 6 REGISTRATION Banks with 8 buttons available for each song

The following day you Fancy some Glen Miller so you have 3 Banks of songs from Glen Miller in a folder saved on your USER/USB drive
To add these to your Master

10 Load your Master PLAYLIST then follow steps 2 above but this time for Glen Miller

So after saving master PLAYLIST you will have 9 song Banks with 8 buttons available to each song

This will Allow you to keep adding to you master PLAYLIST

As Fred says a PLAYLIST is A list of WHERE the REGISTRATIONS can be found.

Best to keep your REGISTRATIONS in some sort of order, with me having so many, I have folders for the different BANKS each bank is a song with (in my case) 10 buttons available to each song

I don't have a master list, my REGISTRATION banks/ PLAYLIST are organised in song books and I use the search in mobilesheets to find a song, which loads the correct registration

Sorry I can not tell you what buttons to press as I am using a GENOS But you are Nearly there if you follow my instructions It has took me over a year to get 13000 registrations organised with

mobilesheets and I think this is something like what you want for the PSX600

Offline Dnj

Re: How to setup a user playlist on the SX600?
« Reply #28 on: April 20, 2021, 02:46:11 PM »
What does "ALL songs in one bank" mean? Do you mean all songs from one bank?

If so, you can easily do this in playlists.

If you have more than one song in a bank, just specify the button number you want the playlist entry to activate.

For example,
-- Jailhouse Rock, Reg bank Elvis01, Button 1
-- Don't be Cruel, Reg bank Elvis01, Button 2
-- Return to Sender, Reg bank Elvis01, Button 3

Etc.

Cheers,
Fred

Fred thanx for trying to help....I'll explain again what I want to do on the SX600 ...

I have Reg banks with 8 songs in each one...
let's say they are named ..Big band, Latin, Pop, Swing, Etc...
Now I can put each one of these banks into the Playlist...
when you push Playlist you will see a list of all the Reg Banks,..Big band, Latin, Pop, Swing, Etc...
You can scroll down the list using the wheel and to select a song within a Bank you have to push Enter
& then push Info to see the songs that are in the bank selected
you can only see 8 songs inside because that is all the bank can hold.
I want to be able to see All my songs in ONE LIST to scroll thru...
I like Muddys approach in saving One Song PER BANK & using the reg buttons for my favorite sounds on each song....this will allow me to load as many Banks of songs (1 song each)
to the playlist
and scroll thru and select each as needed without going thru what I said above (scroll,enter,info,etc)...
I hope I am making sense?