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Offline meyrick

SX900 Twin set
« on: October 13, 2020, 03:32:48 PM »
I have an MP31 which I would like to couple with my SX900. I believe i requires the MIDI Send and Receive in some way,  but I can find no reference in either the user Manual or the reference manual. Can anyone point me in the right dirction please?
Thanks
 

Offline Graham UK

Re: SX900 Twin set
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2020, 04:20:33 PM »
many moons ago I wrote details of Tyros 2 + NP30.
I just requires one midi lead between the two boards.
HOPE THIS HELPS ?.


Tyros & NP30 Twinset

T2. Function \ Splitpoints. Set Split Points R1 & R2 to C1.(last key left) R3 C1#. Previous Registrations saved may alter this.

NP30 Midi Out to T2 Midi In A. Only one lead required. (Midi IN B could be used)

T2. Function \ Utilities \ Midi \ Edit.
Page to System and set Receive Transpose to ON.
Page to Receive and set CH1 from Song to LEFT.
Page to Chord detect Tick CH1.
Volume Control of NP30 is OFF as it's acting as a dummy to trigger T2 Chords \ Styles.

The Midi Template settings above Save As (name ?) Suggest Lower ON into USER.
I did another Template leaving Receive CH1 to Song and Saved As Lower OFF into USER. This enables you to switch off T2 left voice if not required as on the T2 left voice switch does operate on this setup when playing from NP30.

Additional NOTE. Normally the TwinSet NP30 would be playing chords around middle C as per Organ.
The NP30 can be transposed one octave down by.....
Holding Grand Piano Button down whilst pressing C4. This now plays the T2 Left Voice -1 Octave
T5 76 + NP30
 

Offline meyrick

Re: SX900 Twin set
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2020, 02:24:57 PM »
Thanks Graham UK. I will try and work from that although the T2 and SX900 are quite different in their setup. However.it gives me something to work with.
Thank you
 
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Offline overover

Re: SX900 Twin set
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2020, 04:00:10 PM »
I have an MP31 which I would like to couple with my SX900. I believe i requires the MIDI Send and Receive in some way,  but I can find no reference in either the user Manual or the reference manual. Can anyone point me in the right dirction please?
Thanks

Hi meyrick,

you have not written what exactly you want to control with the (Yamaha) NP31 on the SX900.


1. Probably  the easiest is to use the NP31's keyboard instead of the SX900's internal keyboard (both keyboards "do" the same):

- First use a MIDI cable (5-pin DIN connectors on both ends) to connect the NP31's MIDI OUT to the SX900's MIDI IN socket.

- Make sure that the NP31's MIDI Transmit Channel is set to 1 (= default).

- On the SX900, press "Menu > MIDI" and make sure you that the Preset MIDI Template "All Parts" is selected.

- Press "Receive" tab to open the "Receive" page. (Refer to page 124 of the SX900 Reference Manual.)

- In the first line ("Port 1 / Channel 1") set the Part from "Song" to "Keyboard".

- Press the ">" icon (= right arrow) to display the additional columns for "Port 1 / Channel 1".

- REMOVE the checkmarks in the columns "CC" and "PC" (= Control Change and Program Change) in that first line.

- Press the "Save" icon and save the edited MIDI template (using a file name like "Channel1 Keyboard").

- Make sure that your new User MIDI template is shown now at the top of the MIDI display (instead of "All Parts").

- Press the "X" or Exit button to close the MIDI display.

Now you can use the keyboard of the NP31 exactly in the same way as the internal SX900 keyboard (including the Split Points).


2.
The second option is to use the NP31 only to control ONE specific Keyboard Part of the SX900, for example "Right 3". In this case, simply change set the Part of the first line "Port 1 / Channel 1" in the MIDI Receive page not to "Keyboard" but to "Right 3".


If you have any further questions, just get in touch here.


P.S.
To my knowledge, the NP31 doesn't have an internal SPLIT function (to split its keyboard into two independent key areas that transmit on two different MIDI channels). Therefore it is not possible to control the Accompaniment (Style) of the SX900 from the NP31 AND SIMULTANEOUSLY control a specific Keyboard Part of the SX900 (e.g. "Right 3") from a different keyboard area of the NP31.


Best regards,
Chris

« Last Edit: October 14, 2020, 04:07:07 PM by overover »
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Offline meyrick

Re: SX900 Twin set
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2020, 10:48:00 AM »
Hi Chris. Thanks for the input. You are correct, the NP31 is not able to produce a split point. This is what i wanted to do, use the NP31 as the split point as I did on my Tyros4. I can do that but only when the SX900 is set with a split point at F2, which of course defeats the object. The NP31 could be used to play "Lower Split Voices", available from Argonaut@hotmail.com, but that doesn't work with SX900, or at least i cant get it to do so.
Again, very many thanks for your suggestions, I shall just have to plow on with the Genos very little brother and one of us may become better educated. :>)
Graham M 
 

Offline overover

Re: SX900 Twin set
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2020, 11:35:54 AM »
Hi Graham,

you may not have understood my previous statements correctly:

The fact that the NP31's keyboard cannot be spitted just means that you cannot control two different things from the NP31 at the same time, e.g. the Accompaniment (Style control) of the SX900 and in another keyboard area a certain Part.

But, as I said, you have the option of using the NP31 to control the Part "Keyboard" of the SX900. Then the NP31 keyboard behaves exactly like the internal SX900 keyboard, of course also with regard to the Split Points currently set on the SX900 (STYLE, LEFT and RIGHT3 Split points).

And alternatively you have the possibility to control a certain Keyboard Part of the SX900 with the NP31 (either LEFT or RIGHT1 or RIGHT2 or RIGHT3). The Split Points set on the SX900 are NOT important in this case, i.e. the controlled Part of the SX900 can be played using the entire keyboard of the NP31.

I definitely recommend that you try out the options described.


Best regards,
Chris
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Offline Lofty(dave)

Re: SX900 Twin set
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2020, 12:14:34 PM »
I Have my SX900 Coupled to my NP30 works quite well which means I can split my NP into 3 when I wish
Lofty Dave
 

Offline Lofty(dave)

Re: SX900 Twin set
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2020, 12:15:54 PM »
Sorry not NP my Sx into 3
 

Offline RobertM

Re: SX900 Twin set
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2020, 11:16:33 PM »
Hello all
This is my first post on the forums although I've watched PSRT for many years. Attached a photo of my Twin that might be of interest, I use the second keybed for solos controlling R3.
The tilted screen works well, and yes, I am aware my warranty is void!
Regards to everyone,
Robert.

Offline Enildo

Re: SX900 Twin set
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2020, 12:49:02 AM »
Hello all
This is my first post on the forums although I've watched PSRT for many years. Attached a photo of my Twin that might be of interest, I use the second keybed for solos controlling R3.
The tilted screen works well, and yes, I am aware my warranty is void!
Regards to everyone,
Robert.

Hello Robert
I'm curious as to how you managed to tilt the screen.

Enildo
When word fail, Music speaks!
 

Offline RobertM

Re: SX900 Twin set
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2020, 02:21:09 AM »
Hello Enildo,
Photo attached. The mounts are aluminium strip fastened with high strength double-sided tape both to the keyboard sub frame and the back of the screen.  Electrical ground (bonding) is essential.
As several of the circuit boards have to be removed please do not attempt this mod. unless you have experience and are confident.
It is worth the trouble though, especially as you sit further away when using another keybed which results in poor viewing angle.
Regards,
Robert.

Offline Enildo

Re: SX900 Twin set
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2020, 11:02:22 AM »
Hello Enildo,
Photo attached. The mounts are aluminium strip fastened with high strength double-sided tape both to the keyboard sub frame and the back of the screen.  Electrical ground (bonding) is essential.
As several of the circuit boards have to be removed please do not attempt this mod. unless you have experience and are confident.
It is worth the trouble though, especially as you sit further away when using another keybed which results in poor viewing angle.
Regards,
Robert.

Hi Robert, thanks for the reply.

I don't think I have the same courage. hehehehe
Another question: How do you transport it inside a case or bag?
Congratulations on the idea.

Hug,
Enildo
« Last Edit: October 17, 2020, 03:05:24 PM by Enildo »
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Offline blackpool

Re: SX900 Twin set
« Reply #12 on: October 17, 2020, 12:33:38 PM »
Great idea Robert, I have this issue as i use a Korg i3 as my lower for lead voices.
I do miss the tilted screen of my tyros or pa1000  in such a set up with 2 boards.

To 'help' a little with this issue, I have placed 40mm rubber door stops under the rear feet pads of the SX at both sides which do give a slight angle and these don't affect the keybed playing level too much.

Nice neat set up you have ....well thought out!!

Keith
« Last Edit: October 17, 2020, 02:48:28 PM by blackpool »
 

Offline RobertM

Re: SX900 Twin set
« Reply #13 on: October 17, 2020, 04:25:13 PM »
Hi Enildo,
My  Sx900 stays in one place, so the short answer is, "you don't". The mod. is reversible though and takes about an hour to return to original.
I do hope Yamaha improves the screen angle on the next model.

Thanks Keith for your response.

Robert.