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Offline PSRTom

Hey Guys,

I just got my first keyboard and after searching the manual, there is one question for which I cannot find the answer.
How to find the voice assignments that a keyboard (PSR SX700) makes from a midi file for each instrument
 

Offline Janus

display the voices with numbers you can select it  in your keyboard menu
it display the voice name and the numbers below Lsb  msb and  program change
Use those numbers to make a midi commando to select a voice
Add in the tracks in the midi files lsb  with the number on your keyboard display
the same with msb en program change

 

Offline overover

Hey Guys,

I just got my first keyboard and after searching the manual, there is one question for which I cannot find the answer.
How to find the voice assignments that a keyboard (PSR SX700) makes from a midi file for each instrument

Hi PSRTom,

welcome to the Psrtutorial Forum!


To find out the setting details a MIDI file makes for the Song Channels (1 - 16), you have several options.

For example, you can call up the Mixer (Tab "Song"). There you will find the used Voice for each Song Channel (touch the relevant Icon in the upper line). You can also go through the tabs Filter, EQ, Effect, Chorus/Reverb and Pan/Volume to find out the current parameters for each Channel.

There are also some computer programs to do this. I recommend you to download the Demo version of the "Midiland Optimizer XI (available for Windows and Mac computers):
>>> https://www.midiland.de/de/OptimizerXI_DLdemo.htm

Important: When you have installed the "Optimizer XI Demo", go to "Settings > MIDI" and select the PSR-SX900 as "Instrument" at "MIDI Output". (The SX700 has not yet been implemented.)


Note: If you are on a Windows Computer, you should install the Yamaha USB-MIDI driver on your computer (downloadable from the SX700 download site):
>>> https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/psr-sx700/downloads.html#product-tabs

Use a standard USB type AB cable ("printer cable") to connect the USB-to-Host terminal of the SX700 to a USB terminal of the computer.


P.S.
To display the Voice Numbers (in the format "#MSB-LSB-PRG"), press "Menu" in the Voice Selection display and set "Voice Number" to "Show". See also the picture posted by "ckobu" here:
>>> https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,56719.msg441350.html#msg441350


Best regards,
Chris


« Last Edit: September 13, 2020, 09:52:14 PM by overover »
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Offline PSRTom

Hi Guys,

Thanks for getting back to me.  Problem:  When I go to Mixer:Songs, Depress a music icon for a song number, it gives me a generic name, e.g. Piano 1 or Honkytonk.  This does not tell me the specific PSR SX700 keyboard Voice name that is assigned to the  Midi by the keyboard.  It is just a generic designation, like you see when you read a Midi file.

Any thoughts?
Thanks for your consideration,
Tom
 

Offline EileenL

A lot of Midi Files unless recorded on the keyboard you have, will contain General Midi voices because they are general to most makes of keyboard. What do you want to use this information for.
 
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Offline overover

Hi Guys,

Thanks for getting back to me.  Problem:  When I go to Mixer:Songs, Depress a music icon for a song number, it gives me a generic name, e.g. Piano 1 or Honkytonk.  This does not tell me the specific PSR SX700 keyboard Voice name that is assigned to the  Midi by the keyboard.  It is just a generic designation, like you see when you read a Midi file.

Any thoughts?
Thanks for your consideration,
Tom

Hi Tom,

these are NOT "generic" Voice names, but these ARE the Voices that were programmed in the MIDI file. (In some cases, if a programmed Voice of a MIDI file is not present in the used keyboard, the Voice is automatically replaced by another Voice that is as similar as possible. But the Voice that is displayed when you press the Voice icon in the Mixer is always the Voice that you hear.)

Please always take a look on the Voice-PATH (in the lower left corner of the Voice Selection display): When a PANEL Voice is selected, you will see a path like "Preset:/Piano&E.Piano/". This means you are in the Preset Panel Voice folder "Piano&E.Piano".

But there are also additional Voice folders like "Legacy" and "GM&XG". In many cases, commercial MIDI files use GM and XG Voices. Then the Voice Path should look like this: "Preset:/GM&XG/Piano/" (for an GM/XG Piano Voice)

When you call up Voice Selection display from the Mixer (Song tab), you should can access the GM&XG Voice folder as follows: When you are in the Preset tab, press the "UP" arrow in the lower right corner (repeatedly if needed), then go to Page 2. Here you should see the "Legacy" Voice folder and also the "GM&XG" Voice folder.


Note: The GM&XG Voice folder cannot be displayed in the Voice Selection display for the Keyboard Parts (Right 1 - 3, Left) on Genos and SX models. But you can still use those Voices: Use the download link previously provided by Eileen here:
>>> https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,56679.msg441186.html#msg441186

Download that zip file an unzip it on your computer. Then copy the "GM&XG" folder to an USB stick, and if desired copy it also into your User drive (using the Voice Selection display).


P.S.
The GM&XG Voices are NOT listed in the SX900/700 or Genos Data Lists. But you can use e.g. the Tyros5 Data List. Download it, and on the pages 10 - 14 you will find alle the GM&XG Voices (that are also in your SX900 of course):
>>> https://uk.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/5/959965/tyros5_en_dl_d0.pdf


Best regards,
Chris
« Last Edit: September 14, 2020, 09:38:40 PM by overover »
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