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Offline Toril S

I am fighting the muddy boom boom, please help!
« on: July 05, 2020, 08:01:49 PM »
Hello friends :)
I struggle with EQ on my Tyros. The sound is very muddy on my PA systems, just a lot of bassy boom boon, and the lead instruments are not heard clearly. I tried the preset EQ, such as flat, live and powerful. The problem is that I don't hear any difference! That can't be right. For instance, the Flat setting should give less bass and more treble, but I hear no difference.
Any help appreciated, as I am having a gig soon, and would like to use my Tyros for this one.

Edit: I have set the keyboard om PA system, no help. The PA system is the Bose 1 Pro and the Bose L1 Compact.
I use the jack channel, that has no bass/treble settings. Too bad.
« Last Edit: July 05, 2020, 08:07:05 PM by Toril S »
Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

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Offline DonM

Re: I am fighting the muddy boom boom, please help!
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2020, 04:21:47 AM »
I don't remember if the Tyros has multiple outputs, but be sure you are coming from the L and R, or the L/R output, and not a sub out.  Just a guess . . .
DonM
 
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Offline norrimac

Re: I am fighting the muddy boom boom, please help!
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2020, 07:52:03 AM »
I suspect you're using the wrong outputs.

To be sure, listen to the sound output through a set of headphones.

If that's okay, then I'm right.

An alternative test would be to use a split lead of ONE stereo jack plug going to TWO mono jack plugs.

Plug the stereo one into the headphones output, then the mono ones to you L & R amp inputs.

If the sound is not exactly what you're hearing with the headphones, then it's not the Tyros, it's your PA.

Norm.
 
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Offline EileenL

Re: I am fighting the muddy boom boom, please help!
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2020, 02:36:52 PM »
My Keyboard I always set to flat and then use the separate Mixer I have with the speakers to set up the sound for a venue.
 
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Offline Toril S

Re: I am fighting the muddy boom boom, please help!
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2020, 03:28:17 PM »
Don, Norm and Eileen. Thanks a lot. It was the wrong sockets!  :) :) :)
Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

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Offline DonM

Re: I am fighting the muddy boom boom, please help!
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2020, 06:24:06 PM »
Glad it was something simple.  Don't ask how we knew to suggest that!  :)
DonM
 
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Offline norrimac

Re: I am fighting the muddy boom boom, please help!
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2020, 06:56:18 PM »
Been there, dun that, got ALL them friggin' T-shirts, Don???
 
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Offline blackpool

Re: I am fighting the muddy boom boom, please help!
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2020, 07:38:23 PM »
I always now use headphone out with a simple, single stereo lead and change the speaker switch over so my on-board speakers stay on.

Ironically i seem to get a more pure sound and it is so simple, i was forever wondering which was the best option.
For me it's an easy fix....and sounds great

Keith
 
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Offline Toril S

Re: I am fighting the muddy boom boom, please help!
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2020, 09:37:16 PM »
Thanks Keith.
Too many holes in the back of that blasted Tyros 5  :) :) :) I mess up all the time...
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and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

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Offline norrimac

Re: I am fighting the muddy boom boom, please help!
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2020, 09:40:29 PM »
Good option too Keith.

I use the headphone out socket for an in-ear or backward-facing monitor because I can us the volume knob for onstage volume control.

That way you can use the Aux out sockets to the PA.

Norm.
 
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Offline Toril S

Re: I am fighting the muddy boom boom, please help!
« Reply #10 on: July 06, 2020, 10:22:25 PM »
Good option Norm. Is there a way to increase the output til the earphones?
Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

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Offline norrimac

Re: I am fighting the muddy boom boom, please help!
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2020, 10:30:46 PM »
Not on the Tyros, Toril.

All headphone outputs nowadays are limited to a certain Db because if it's too loud, it could damage your hearing.

But if you're using the headphone socket to drive a monitor system, (such as a Yamaha Stagepass) there's plenty of power coming out of the headphone socket anyway.

Short answer is if the headphone socket is going into a mixing desk, a 250,000-watt concert PA system even a small one, then the preamplifier will boost the sound (theoretically) to blow the **** roof off whatever gig you're playing.

The output on the headphone socket is pretty strong, Toril, but I'm just a muso, not a roadie! ;-)

Norm.
 
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Offline Toril S

Re: I am fighting the muddy boom boom, please help!
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2020, 10:45:14 PM »
Thanks Norm :) I was trying to use some light headphones at the same time as using a PA system, to better monitor my playing. But to hear the sound in the headphones while playing I had to turn the master volume to full, and then the PA got too load. I can solve this by using headphones with volume controls on them, but chose to use a monitor instead. So I got a Bose S1 Pro in addition to my bigger Bose L1 Compact. Party on Thursday. Will see how it goes! I daisy chain the two speakers with an audio cable. Soundcheck at home, neighbours probably not happy, I live in an apartment house :)
Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

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