Topic: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free

[jwyvern]

There is no point in trying to download premium SA2 voices for Genos, since Genos V2 includes them all anyway.

John

[Esa]

Genos cpf packages do not load into my yem 
"The Pack could not be imported because there is no instrument capale of using this Pack"
What on earth ? Version is V2.6.0

Esa

[PAFF]

I had rhe same problem Esa. Delete Genos from YEM  and reload the Genos ID.

[EileenL]

This is because we have those voices already in Genos.

[overover]

Genos cpf packages do not load into my yem 
"The Pack could not be imported because there is no instrument capale of using this Pack"
What on earth ? Version is V2.6.0

Esa

Hi Esa,

yes, as already suggested by PAFF:

Delete the current Genos Install Target in YEM. Then export your Instrument Info file (.n27) from your Genos again and import it into YEM as new Install Target. (Genos must be updated to Version 2.02 before!)


Best regards,
Chris

[sunny]

Hi Esa,

yes, as already suggested by PAFF:

Delete the current Genos Install Target in YEM. Then export your Instrument Info file (.n27) from your Genos again and import it into YEM as new Install Target. (Genos must be updated to Version 2.02 before!)


Best regards,
Chris

Hi Chris,
I got Same error  when i loaded Indian Tals pack on Tyros5 as
"The Pack could not be imported because there is no instrument capable of using this Pack"

 Will it work for Tyros 5 also when i delete Tyros5 and reinstall again ?

Thanks,
Sunny

[sunny]

Hi Sunny,

the Voices of certain Packs that cannot used on Tyros5 use Preset Waveforms that are not available on Tyros5 (but only on newer models like PSR-S97x, S77x, PSR-SX and Genos).

To my knowledge, there is no workaround or "hack" to can install those non-compatible Voices on Tyros5, at the moment.


P.S.
Maybe Caspar (ckobu) can say a little more about this. I have seen some posts of him on this topic in other keyboard forums.


Best regards,
Chris

Hi Chris,
 Does it mean that Indian expansion packs which are compatible with PSR SX900 expansion packs are also compatible with Genos keyboard ?

Sunny

[Bachus]

I downloaded one by one and set aside these packages for Genos.

Seems still some packs are missing? Like the entertainer pack?

[ckobu]

Hi Chris,
 Does it mean that Indian expansion packs which are compatible with PSR SX900 expansion packs are also compatible with Genos keyboard ?

Sunny

@overover is right. Tyros5 cannot use Preset Waveform from newer models. Genos can. Pictured is the Pack (* .ppf) made with Genos sounds and they are gray if we select Tyros5 as the Instal Target.

But now that we have the * .cpf Free Pack, we can only use the model for which the Pack was created. For example, a Pack made for Tyros 5 cannot be entered in Genos.

[ckobu]

Seems still some packs are missing? Like the entertainer pack?

This is all I was able to download and successfully install in Genos. I believe new Packs will be added to the Shop. For now, I'm using the Entertainer Pack (ppf) from the psr s970.

[Al Ram]

Ckobu 

Interesting . . . . so, you were able to install an entertainer.ppf from psrS970 into Genos ?

where did you get this ppf file ?  I downloaded several entertainer packs but i can only see cpf extensions not ppf

Thanks in advance.

[ckobu]

Previously, one Free Package came with the purchase of a keyboard. So I got a ppf. It can also be installed in Genos.
Now all Packs are free and come in the form of * .cpf. They only apply to a specific model.

[overover]

Hi Chris,
I got Same error  when i loaded Indian Tals pack on Tyros5 as
"The Pack could not be imported because there is no instrument capable of using this Pack"

 Will it work for Tyros 5 also when i delete Tyros5 and reinstall again ? ...

Hi Sunny,

no, Esa tried to import .cpf Packs that was originally made for GENOS, he could not import the Packs because (in my opinion) he had not yet imported the current Genos Instrument Info file (.n27) as an Install Target in the YEM.

In your case, the reason that you cannot import the "Indian Taals" Pack is: The now free downloadable version of this Pack is only available in .cpf format, and only for the PSR-S670. This .cpf cannot be used for any other model, unforunately. (The Pack could be imported into YEM if there was also an PSR-S670 Install Target. But you can not select it for use with e.g. the Tyros5.

I have a .ppf version of "Indian Taals" Pack that was downloadable for free in the past. A .ppf can ALWAYS be imported into YEM (and usually can be used on several instruments). BUT in the case of "Indian Taals" Pack, unfortunately many Voices are NOT COMPATIBLE with Tyros5. (See the attached picture.)

I could upload my .ppf version of "Indian Taals" if you wish, but as mentioned it is not fully compatible with Tyros5 ...

Hi Chris,
 Does it mean that Indian expansion packs which are compatible with PSR SX900 expansion packs are also compatible with Genos keyboard ? ...

As mentioned before, a .cpf Pack can only be used with the specific model it was originally made for. So, to use with the Tyros5 you need a .cpf pack that was made specifically for the Tyros5 OR a Pack in .ppf format.


Best regards,
Chris

[Mike2]

This is getting worst by the day. Please, can someone explain what the hell I am missing for free??? This thread is all about getting something for free, no matter how you explain it. Is it worth it after all these post? Just curious?? After all, I have not seen much excitement, except frustration with this thread.
I say keep it going, if this is what you call technology...I'll continue to play and enjoy all that my Genos has to offer. If one doesn't, the first thing you know, a new Genos 2 will be available, and that will add to another frustration or expectation, that will take up more of your time than enjoyment playing of your keyboard, which should be first.

[ckobu]

@ Mike2 - this may seem like a frustration to you, but we're having a good time. It’s all a matter of perception and outlook on life.

For me, this thread is fun, and FreePack is a nice exploration.
It's easy, download your packages and enjoy the game.

Or enjoy your Genos in version 1.04 and unsubscribe from the topic.

[Toril S]

Stalking the prey is part of the fun. Here the prey is an expert in hiding, so we load our YEM and shoot

[Dromeus]

I cannot see anything "going worst" here, on contrary. In fact it started quite strange when Yamaha went live with a shop that was the worst piece of web software I've ever seen from a world class company like Yamaha. Let's face it: if you announce premium packs to be free there will be a huge interest and demand. It's just human and there is nothing wrong with it. When making a business decision to migrate to a new shop and at the same time to give away a bunch of software with a value of a few 100 bucks for free, you'd better get your sh*t together.

BUT it's getting better all the time...  . There are some real gems to explore e.g. I really like the Vintage Synth/Keyboard packs. Your mileage may vary but it's worth the time to check out those packs that suit your needs. If you're really not interested in additional software for your Genos, then why read this thread at all?

[Mega Voice]

Hi Mega Voice,

Premium Packs are only available for Tyros models and Genos, and because they are always in the protected .cpf format, there is no way to use those Packs on other models (like PSR-S or SX).

Please take a look to these free Local Packs for the PSR-A3000. These Packs are in the (non protected) .ppf format and should can be used also with the SX700.

https://asia-latinamerica-mea.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/psr-a3000/vse.html#product-tabs

The only thing is that some of these Packs are relativlely big, so maybe you have to deselect some content (in the YEM) when using with the SX700.

Best regards,
Chris

I think you know it wrong. I have the Genos Balkan & Turkey cpf package and I can load this package as cpi in sx700 keyboard. But I can't do the same with the middle eastern package I downloaded. I want the cpf file, which is the package before it was free. I would be very happy if you could help.

[ugawoga]

Hi
Go Software with VST and combine that with The Genos.
It will make the Yamaha packs look silly

[EileenL]

John,
  That is not what people want here. They want the free Yamaha packs and the new voices and styles in them. I must add some are very good.
  If you want to keep pushing all this electronic stuff then why not start a new thread. Believe it or not there are still some people who are more than happy just using there keyboards as they are and producing some great music.
  During lock down I have been listening to a small group that formed to bring us a hour of live played music for an hour in the morning and then in the evening. They use Tyros3 to Genos and there talent is just fantastic. It is a joy to watch. I know they will make good use of some of these packs.

[ugawoga]

Hi Eileen

People want diversness on this forum  and all i am saying is something that i can pass on. That is how i have learnt this by others opinions
If we were all the same it would be boring
I am not pushing anything as I have nothing to gain.
This forum is for live players and home studio players as well.
I still maintain you do not get much for free!!. Not these days anyway.IMO>

All the Best
John

[sunny]

Hi Sunny,

no, Esa tried to import .cpf Packs that was originally made for GENOS, he could not import the Packs because (in my opinion) he had not yet imported the current Genos Instrument Info file (.n27) as an Install Target in the YEM.

In your case, the reason that you cannot import the "Indian Taals" Pack is: The now free downloadable version of this Pack is only available in .cpf format, and only for the PSR-S670. This .cpf cannot be used for any other model, unforunately. (The Pack could be imported into YEM if there was also an PSR-S670 Install Target. But you can not select it for use with e.g. the Tyros5.

I have a .ppf version of "Indian Taals" Pack that was downloadable for free in the past. A .ppf can ALWAYS be imported into YEM (and usually can be used on several instruments). BUT in the case of "Indian Taals" Pack, unfortunately many Voices are NOT COMPATIBLE with Tyros5. (See the attached picture.)

I could upload my .ppf version of "Indian Taals" if you wish, but as mentioned it is not fully compatible with Tyros5 ...


As mentioned before, a .cpf Pack can only be used with the specific model it was originally made for. So, to use with the Tyros5 you need a .cpf pack that was made specifically for the Tyros5 OR a Pack in .ppf format.


Best regards,
Chris

Hi all,

There are 4 Indian packs such as Indian Taals, Indian 2, Indian Entertainer & Indian Devotional pack1 are available for free download, but none of these packs work on Tyros5.  Tyros5 players are most disappointed. Now no hopes on Yamaha  because no  response from Yamaha to my email. I still unable to understand what Yamaha will lose if Indian packs are made compatible with Tyros 5.

Any programs available that can extract voices from CPF and PPF formats, so that I can create my own CPF pack with YEM ?

Thanks,
Sunny

[soundphase]

Hi Eileen

People want diversness on this forum  and all i am saying is something that i can pass on. That is how i have learnt this by others opinions
If we were all the same it would be boring
I am not pushing anything as I have nothing to gain.
This forum is for live players and home studio players as well.
I still maintain you do not get much for free!!. Not these days anyway.IMO>

All the Best
John

I'm quite sure that the current Genos CPU power with 1TB instead of 3GB, and perhaps with some new sound algorithms  (i would like the random algorihm used for new drums to be used for other acoustic sounds to imitate natural changes) will allow us to take profit  from sounds at the VST quality. The Genos will then have professional sounds with the "sit and play" so enjoyable capability. Everybody will be happy.

But effectively for live professional results... I would like a smooth sound transition, as it is very annoying to have to align all DSP/Volume/EQ parameters between registrations (even if it is often possible to do so) to avoid the unpleasant sound holes and leaps at registration switches. And, that could require far more CPU and internal channels.

[EileenL]

Again this has nothing to do with the original title of this thread and free packs from Yamaha. Some people are having problems getting them and some  are not and that is what is being discussed and the European site will be ready to download from.
  There are other threads where VST and DAW's can be discussed.

[EileenL]

Hi John,
  I know that people want diverseness on a forum but I was referring to sticking to the subject of a thread which is all about a certain subject. If different bits not related to a subject are posted all over the forum all you achieve is a muddle and members wont know if they are coming or going.

[elad770]

Hi John,
  I know that people want diverseness on a forum but I was referring to sticking to the subject of a thread which is all about a certain subject. If different bits not related to a subject are posted all over the forum all you achieve is a muddle and members wont know if they are coming or going.

It's so difficult to stick to the exact subject with no diversions...for   10 pages! LOL

[ugawoga]

HI Eileen

You will have to use Gorilla Glue to make us stick to the subject!!  Another big Lol!!


All the Best
John

[Toril S]

Wasn't it about some free packs from Yamaha? That are free to download if you can? Yet another LOL

[EileenL]

Quite a few members have managed to download packs. It seems to be the European site that is still being worked on.

[Wim]

Quite a few members have managed to download packs. It seems to be the European site that is still being worked on.

Indeed Eileen as I mentioned in an earlier messsage. They think the site is ready to the end of august. In the mean time I managed to download the packs at the US site.
rgds
Wim

[terryB]

 Hi - The packs for ''Colours  of Iberia'' and ''Greetings from Italy'' have a second version '' V2 ''  are these the same packs but upgraded in or different ? 

Cheers Terry

[EileenL]

As far as I know they are different.

[ckobu]

Hi - The packs for ''Colours  of Iberia'' and ''Greetings from Italy'' have a second version '' V2 ''  are these the same packs but upgraded in or different ? 

Cheers Terry

These are the same packages but the V2 has been upgraded with new Styles and Voices.  All Styles in V2 are tuned with the Revo drum.

[Toril S]

Hello
When I select Expansion packs on Musicsoft, I get an error message. Could someone give me a link to the site where you were able to download packs?
BTW, the site looks worse than ever, at least for me with my low vision. Big sigh...

[ckobu]

I made a video with the process of downloading Packs. If someone has still failed to download the material, this tutorial may help.

https://youtu.be/9Im1h_GCIyM

@Toril S - did you watch my video, I download (EU) without any problems.

[Toril S]

Hello, I tried to watch the video. Unfortunately I don't see it well enough.
I logged in, went to downloadables and to packs, then got error message.
Does anyone have the link to the U.S site, as this seems to work?

[ckobu]

https://shop.usa.yamaha.com/

[EileenL]

Here is the site I used for my packs Toryl

https://shop.usa.yamaha.com/downloadables-world

[Toril S]

Thanks ckobu and Eileen

[Toril S]

I am logged in with my name showing in right upper corner of the page, than go to shop packs, and this message comes:

We can't find products matching the selection.

So WHY THE H.... doesn't it work here when many others are able to get it to work?
This turned out to be excactly as disappointing as I imagined it would be.
I will have to go to bed before I blow a fuse!

Thanks friends for trying to help You are the best!

[ckobu]

01. While logged in, click on the magnifying glass and enter the name of the keyboard you have (Figure 1) - The results will appear (oval red circle) and click on one Package
02. Click on the ADD TO CARD field (picture 2)
03. Repeat this procedure for the other Pack you want to download
04. Click on the cart icon (top right) and then on the PROCEED TO CHECKOUT field (picture 03)

[ckobu]

05. Return to My Account and select My Orders, click on PLACE ORDER (picture 04)
06. Select My Library and wait a few minutes. Click Refresh in the browser and when the Satus of the order is Available click on the Package Name. (picture 05)

I wish you a peaceful sleep. And success in downloading the Package tomorrow.

[Toril S]

Thanks a lot ckobu!! I try again timorrow😀

[terryB]

The Entertainer pack on the website says for Genos/Tyros, yet when I extract the files only the cpf files for Tyros and T5-76 are there  , how do we get a file for Genos.?  Is this pack worth having ? what sort of material does it contain ? 

Cheers Terry

[ckobu]

Yes, Entertainer Pack and also Euro Dance does not exist for Genos. I hope Yamaha will correct that.

[terryB]

Thanks Ckobu. Previously cpf files where related to the owners instrument ID only, now the files for the freebies are also cpf, but only tied to the instrument model. I already have, (IMO), the best packs that I have purchased over the years, eg. Celtic, Country Musician, Vintage synth and Keyboard plus a couple of others together with some third party packs. I am wondering if I should download the packs I already have (ie  Yamaha ones) so that I have a set not tied
only to my Genos ??. I see from an earlier post that Ckobu has both versions of a pack on his instrument. At the moment I cannot get to my library on the European site to redownload my paid for files if I needed to 

Cheers Terry

[Gunnar Jonny]

.. I am wondering if I should download the packs I already have (ie  Yamaha ones) so that I have a set not tied
only to my Genos ??

I've done that, downloaded all the Y free-packs for Genos just to be safe if the bought packs is tied to the exact keyboard.
As said above by ckobu, some of the packs still miss the Genos format.

[voodoo]

I've done that, downloaded all the Y free-packs for Genos just to be safe if the bought packs is tied to the exact keyboard.
As said above by ckobu, some of the packs still miss the Genos format.

Hi,

the files used before were not bound to an exact keyboard serial number, but to a user account. You had to use email and password to open it in YEM. After this, you could install it on any device, supporting the format. So all my PSR packs could be installed in my Genos, as long as I remember my password.

The files used now are not bound to an account, but are bound a keyboard type. Now we don't need our email/password to open it, and we can give it to friends without having to give them our password. But now PSR-packs are bound to PSR keyboards and cannot be used for Genos.

So why should we download the new files? For the the case that we forget our password, or Yamaha stops the password authentication server. Then the old files cannot be used any longer. So for any case, save the new files.

Uli

[Bachus]

Anyone figured out how the coding of those zip files you download works?

Is there a logic behind those YCJ .....  VZ codes that allows you to indentify what kind of pack it is?

[Gunnar Jonny]

.... You had to use email and password to open it in YEM.

I've never had to do it that way. Probably different between different models. 🤔
With T4 or Genos, just imported the instrument id-file direct into YEM and add pacs from PC folder.