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Offline turaimis

Continuous sound with Yamaha Expansion Manager
« on: May 17, 2020, 01:29:36 PM »
Hi,

Could someone explain hot to make sound continuous (like organs, strings etc.) with Yamaha Expansion Manager? The length of wave is 9 seconds.

Thanks in advance

Offline Normanfernandez

Re: Continuous sound with Yamaha Expansion Manager
« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2020, 01:48:47 PM »
You need to make a loop point with the samples.
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Offline vanzee

Re: Continuous sound with Yamaha Expansion Manager
« Reply #2 on: May 17, 2020, 02:19:00 PM »
Richard van Straten made a very useful manual for YEM version 2.3.2
(manual version 1.2.1) in 62 pages.
This manual is in Dutch.
If you can't find it somewhere you may send me an e-mail
so I send you this manual in appendix (pdf).

Free traduction of the answer to your question,
from the manual from Richard van Straten :
"....we need specific software called "Loop Editor" to let
the sound continue,.....most of the audio-editors (DAW) can
make a loop, but that is not the loop we need because it makes
no samples with a loop.
A "Loop Editor" makes in the sample (WAV) two indexpoints
that can be read by the Tyros/Genos to define the start and end point
to continue the sound as long as the keys are pressed,....."
Best Regards
Eddy Vanzee
 

Offline turaimis

Re: Continuous sound with Yamaha Expansion Manager
« Reply #3 on: May 17, 2020, 02:54:12 PM »
Thank you, I'll try to find this manual.
So us I understood, the audio-editor "Cool Edit Pro" which I work with is not suitable to make such loop? True?
 

Offline vanzee

Re: Continuous sound with Yamaha Expansion Manager
« Reply #4 on: May 17, 2020, 03:40:57 PM »
You can do a test.
Make a loop in your editorprogr., save it as "WAV", then playback on Tyros/Genos,
if the playback is with loop then you can use your prog., if not you will have to search for
a specific loop creator/editor.
You'll find it easily on the internet under the name "Loop Editor" or "Loop Creator".
Best Regards
Eddy Vanzee
 
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Offline turaimis

Re: Continuous sound with Yamaha Expansion Manager
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2020, 04:01:21 PM »
Thank you Mr Eddy! It seems Cool Edit Pro is not suitable for the loops and I should find another program.

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Offline tyrosaurus

Re: Continuous sound with Yamaha Expansion Manager
« Reply #6 on: May 17, 2020, 05:53:15 PM »
I have used Wavosaur in the past to add loop markers to samples, which have then looped correctly when made into a voice on my Tyros4.

https://www.wavosaur.com/

I haven't tried to make voices in YEM using these 'loops', but I suspect that they will work.

Note that Yamaha software only supports a single loop in a sample, so don't waste time making more than one loop per sample.

Also, if you are using a looped sample in a drum voice, make sure that 'Receive Key Off' (in 'General' parameters) is enabled, or the sample will never stop once triggered!


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Offline turaimis

Re: Continuous sound with Yamaha Expansion Manager
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2020, 06:55:37 AM »
The loops created with Wavosaur works excellent in YEM. Only need to use crossfade (100% or 50%) to avoid "click" on continuous playing.

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