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Offline Dave Nuttall

Reversing style names?
« on: March 19, 2020, 11:53:31 AM »
Over time there have been "thousands" of styles posted here on PSR-Tutorial which have been renamed for a particular song.  (See the GIG Lists, for example).

Does anyone know HOW to determine what the original style name was?

I've been wondering about this "for years"! 

TIA.
Dave
Genos, ProTools, Cubase AI10, Win10,  BIAB-2016, Sibelius 7.5, MixMaster, PRSUTI, StyleMagic, StyleWorks, and Baldwin SF-10 acoustic piano.
 

Offline MBedesem

Re: Reversing style names?
« Reply #1 on: March 19, 2020, 01:05:52 PM »
Dave:

If it is a factory style and all the user has done is rename it's filename, then it can be displayed in MixMaster(open syyle (drag file to the on screen icon), then depress List View. An event like this should be close to the top of the listing:

 001:1:0000      Song Track Name=Acoustic8BtBld.T160.prs

Regards,

Michael
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Offline BogdanH

Re: Reversing style names?
« Reply #2 on: March 19, 2020, 01:06:56 PM »
hello Dave,
Inside every style file, there's "internal" style name. That's the name that was used when style was created/saved.
To see that info (among others), you can use M.Bedesem's StyleDump tool: https://psrtutorial.com/MB/styledump.html
Open style with StyleDump and at the beginning there will be StyleName shown. Unless someone intentionally modified that info, that will be "original" style name.

Bogdan
(PSR-S670, PSR-S775) PSR-SX700

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Offline Jørgen

Re: Reversing style names?
« Reply #3 on: March 19, 2020, 01:17:14 PM »
Hi

Are you referring to
1) the style file name as listed in Windows Explorer
or
2) the internal Yamaha style name?

The following is if 1)

Not exactly what you are asking for
http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/software/sdm/index.htm

This software has several search algorithms - read the Help file - and will list file duplicates!

There is no information in a style file about the current file name or previous file names.

Jørgen
The Unofficial YAMAHA Keyboard Resource Site at http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha
- since 1999
 

Offline Dave Nuttall

Re: Reversing style names?
« Reply #4 on: March 19, 2020, 01:51:42 PM »
Dave:

If it is a factory style and all the user has done is rename it's filename, then it can be displayed in MixMaster(open syyle (drag file to the on screen icon), then depress List View. An event like this should be close to the top of the listing:

 001:1:0000      Song Track Name=Acoustic8BtBld.T160.prs

Regards,

Michael

Thanks, Michael.
I know that in addition to the Song Track Name event, when you record a song with a factory style, there is OFTEN at least one SYSEX event with a long hex and ASCII text description.
In many/most of the styles distributed as "gig disks", the Song Track Name "event" has been altered to correspond with what shows up in the Windows File Explorer view.   
Genos, ProTools, Cubase AI10, Win10,  BIAB-2016, Sibelius 7.5, MixMaster, PRSUTI, StyleMagic, StyleWorks, and Baldwin SF-10 acoustic piano.
 

Offline Dave Nuttall

Re: Reversing style names?
« Reply #5 on: March 19, 2020, 01:54:47 PM »
hello Dave,
Inside every style file, there's "internal" style name. That's the name that was used when style was created/saved.
To see that info (among others), you can use M.Bedesem's StyleDump tool: https://psrtutorial.com/MB/styledump.html
Open style with StyleDump and at the beginning there will be StyleName shown. Unless someone intentionally modified that info, that will be "original" style name.

Bogdan

Thanks, Bogdan.
Michael's MixMaster also shows the StyleName.  Unfortunately, the good folks who have assembled their gig disks didn't see fit to leave the original style name untouched which is the reason for my question.
Genos, ProTools, Cubase AI10, Win10,  BIAB-2016, Sibelius 7.5, MixMaster, PRSUTI, StyleMagic, StyleWorks, and Baldwin SF-10 acoustic piano.
 

Offline Dave Nuttall

Re: Reversing style names?
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2020, 02:05:12 PM »
Hi

Are you referring to
1) the style file name as listed in Windows Explorer
or
2) the internal Yamaha style name?

The following is if 1)

Not exactly what you are asking for
http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/software/sdm/index.htm

This software has several search algorithms - read the Help file - and will list file duplicates!

There is no information in a style file about the current file name or previous file names.

Jørgen
Thanks,  Jørgen.
My question is about the internal style name and the pointer to your dupes program prompted me to try Peter's PSR Style Database which DOES show the internal style name.   There may be more cases where no change has been made to the internal style name and that is plainly seen with "PSR-SDB"!

SO...this ANSWERS my question!

Thanks to all three of you (Michael, Bogdan and of course, you Jørgen)
Genos, ProTools, Cubase AI10, Win10,  BIAB-2016, Sibelius 7.5, MixMaster, PRSUTI, StyleMagic, StyleWorks, and Baldwin SF-10 acoustic piano.
 

Offline Janus

Re: Reversing style names?
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2020, 04:31:48 PM »
Over time there have been "thousands" of styles posted here on PSR-Tutorial which have been renamed for a particular song.  (See the GIG Lists, for example).

Does anyone know HOW to determine what the original style name was?

I've been wondering about this "for years"! 

TIA.
Dave
I use a prg. to do the job
Midi-style-rename You can find it on the internet
All  styles and midi-files in a dir are changed to the orig intern style or midi-file name
It makes copy's so you keep the old styles


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