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Editing styles in SX 900 ... I need a little help ...

Started by Aquilauno, March 07, 2020, 04:56:41 PM

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Aquilauno

I started to modify some styles to adapt them to some Italian songs ... I modified the tempo and some OTS voices. I saved it by renaming the styles in the User memory but when I load them again the time returns to its original setting (only the time). While if I save everything as a recording, and call back the registration, the time is correctly what I modified ... where am I wrong?  :-[

ckobu

When storing OTS, you only write down values for Voice.
But that doesn't save a change to TEMPO in Style. You need to go to Style Creator to change the tempo.
https://youtu.be/5gVKZ_AS3Vk

Registration also saves value for tempo, but only if you invoke Style through it.
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Fred Smith

Registrations save tempo. OTS does not.

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panos

Hi my Italian friend,
there are 2 basic ways of doing things with styles and voices
for playing a specific song:

a)Use the the Style Creator to modify the style(change it's tempo,change it's parts etc)
While you are inside the style creator you can call the Mixing Console and change the values of  volumes the effects of the style parts.
Then you can save the style as a new style(with the modified style parts).

To change the R+L hand voices of the OTS in this case you change the voices as you wish (Memory Button+OTS 1 or 2 or 3 or 4) and re-save the style.

Now your style has new modified style parts and new modified OTS.

b)You can use Registrations to save "stuff"
In regs you can save some stuff but that doesn't mean that Regs can change preset or user styles or they can change the OTS of preset or user styles.
E.g. you can take a preset style and save it in a reg with a different tempo without entering style creator at all.
The reg will use the tempo you tell it to use because you have ticked "Tempo" in the pop out window.
That doesn't mean that the original style now has a different tempo.
It means that if you cal the reg can play it in a different tempo.
The Reg cannot save OTS (There is not an option for OTS as you can see in the pop out window)
But the reg van save different R+L hand voices if you wish.

In your case:
Change what you wish for the OTS and resave the style with the song name.
Change what you wish using style creator and mixing console for the style with the song's name (e.g just the right  tempo for the song) and save it again.

Now you can save the song style also to the reg buttons
Method 1:
Example:
Reg 1 it has Intro A
Reg 2 it has Main A and OTS 1 (Verse 1)
Reg 3 it has Main C and OTS 3 (Chorus 1)
Reg 4 it has Main B and OTS 2 (Verse 2)
Reg 5 it has Main D (without phrase 2 channel) and OTS 4 (Chorus 2)
Reg 6 it has Main C and some other combination for R+L hand voices (Bridge/instrumental part)
Reg 7 it has Main D and some other combination for R+L hand voices (Chorus 3)
Reg 8 it has Main D and some other combination for R+L hand voices (Chorus 4)

Before a Main comes in, you can also choose whether an auto fill in comes in or not.
While all the regs are using the same style you can use also the Style Control and OTS  buttons at any time while playing.

Method 2:
Of course you can save each style in just one reg and then continue to play a song with JUST the Style Control and OTS buttons(But NOT the other Reg buttons).
Example:
Reg 1 "Felicita"
Reg 2 "A casa d'Irene"
Reg 3 "Tu vuo' fa' l'Americano"
etc

A Registration in my opinion is the solution to play along with constantly different backing tracks(style tracks) to avoid  their repetitiveness if we wish.

Aquilauno

Thanks to everyone for the answers and thanks Panos for the in-depth clarification. I immediately begin to "study" ... I understood how powerful and versatile the use of recordings is  ;)