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Offline chirath

PSR 410
« on: February 13, 2020, 10:08:08 AM »
Dear All members

I used to be on this forum 7 years ago and that time i had PSR 2100 and i only kept it for one year as the display got lines and the sold it. after that i did not buy any . how ever now i got very very old unit - PSR 410 .  ;D . it was made in japan and all functions are still working . One Key was not wroking and finally i fixed it by join the broken coper path of the PCB.

This still got noce sound and most of basic functions are ok. how ever i was wondering how to create a style on this . is this capable of creating styles?

pelase advice

thank you

Chirath
« Last Edit: February 13, 2020, 10:27:45 AM by chirath »
 

Offline Toril S

Re: PSR 410
« Reply #1 on: February 13, 2020, 07:44:18 PM »
Hello Chirath. The PSR 410 was released in 1993!! You can not create styles on it, but there are some cool styles on it and some cool synth sounds. Too bad about the 2100. That was a much better keyboard, but the 410 has value as a vintage keyboard. Some of these older models are popular for collectors. I have a PSR 47 from 1990, and keep it because it is really cool.
Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLVwWdb36Yd3LMBjAnm6pTQ?view_as=subscriber



Toril's PSR Performer Page
 
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Offline Roy_T

Re: PSR 410
« Reply #2 on: February 13, 2020, 11:09:17 PM »
Chirath

Even though you can not create new styles on the PSR-410, it does give you a considerable amount of realtime control over the accompaniment styles.  To begin with, the Track buttons allow you to turn each of the accompaniment tracks on and off, in realtime as you play.  See The Track Buttons at the top of Page 28 in the manual. In addition to this, the REVOICE feature (Page 29) allows you to change the voice (instrument), the volume, the stereo pan position, and the octave of each one of the accompaniment tracks.  So, if you are using a style where the bass is a bit too "boomy", instead of just turning it off, you can select a different type of bass, or reduce its volume, or change its position in the stereo field.  Then, you can save up to four of your favorite sets of track settings in Registrations (Page 31).  The Track button settings, as well as the REVOICE settings are saved along with other keyboard settings into the Registrations.  I had several non-Yamaha arranger keyboards about the time the PSR-410 was released, and NONE of them had any of this kind of control over the accompaniment tracks.

If you need a copy of the manual, you can download a PDF copy from here:

https://usa.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/8/317598/PSR410E.pdf

Enjoy that "new" PSR-410 !

Roy
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Offline chirath

Re: PSR 410
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2020, 06:35:58 AM »
What are the models comes with style creating option? below 2100 series
 

Offline Roy_T

Re: PSR 410
« Reply #4 on: February 14, 2020, 06:49:57 PM »
Starting backwards from the PSR-2100, all of the following models had the Style Creator feature:

PSR-2100/1100
PSR-2000/1000
PSR-9000 PRO
PSR-9000
PSR-8000

There may have been earlier models, but prior to the PSR-8000, I am not familiar enough with the PSR lineage to know which models may. or may not, have had the Style Creator feature.  The further back one goes. the more difficult it becomes to find manuals for checking features.

While the PSR-740/640 do not boast a "Style Creator" as such, they do allow the recording and saving of up to three User Styles in a manner that could be considered a precursor to the modern day "Style Creator"

« Last Edit: February 14, 2020, 07:59:34 PM by Roy_T »
 

Offline chirath

Re: PSR 410
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2020, 05:56:16 AM »
Thank you very much for the valuble update.

what is the difference with PSR E series and S series? coz PSR E series are bit a cheap .

thank you
 

Offline Roy_T

Re: PSR 410
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2020, 06:47:16 PM »
Chirath

The word "cheap" is an extremely unfair stigma to attach to the PSR E series boards, just because they sell for less than the S series boards.  They are meant to sell for less than the S series boards, which offer many costly features to the more advanced user, while the E series boards are equipped and priced to offer the essential basics to newcomers, who are most likely on a much more limited budget than S series buyers.  "Cheap" assumes purposefully low quality, shoddy design and workmanship to make a fast sale, with little or no regerd for customer satisfaction.  I assure you, this most certainly does not apply to the Yamaha E series keyboards, and that Yamaha hopes to see those customers eventually "graduating" into the S series or other more advanced series boards.  They could never do this by starting those customers out with a "cheap" product.  As a case in point: all of the E series boards offer split and layered voices WITH the ability to adjust the relative volumes of each, while their closest competition traded off that essential learning and serious performance feature to cover the cost of a supposedly better sound engine.  I bought my PSR-3000 new in early 2007, just before the PSR S900 came out.  Even so, I am utterly amazed when I watch the YouTube demos of the E series models, and what all they can do for the price they are being offered at.  When it was first offerred, I bought the PSR-E433 as a backup, of sorts, to my PSR-3000, and to access its (the PSR-E433's) more "DJ-like" features. I have been thoroughly satisfied with it since.  By the way, those more "DJ-like" features have now been carried over into the S series line to attract customers whose needs/interests tend in that direction.

Here ia a link to a current related discussion of the E vs S features over on the E Series sub forum:

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,54187.msg422739.html#new

I would also recommend watching the various E series YouTube demos made over the past several years, to become more acquainted with the actual capabilities of those boards - in particular, those PSR-E series demos by Oostendorp, and Gear4Music.

Roy
 
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