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Offline kbrkr

Does anyone have ForScore working with Genos via MIDI?
« on: December 24, 2019, 11:54:24 PM »
I have all my scores/lead sheets in ForScore and i'm not interested in using SongBook+ as it just doesn't have the same level of features as ForScore.  With that said, does any one have experience sending MIDI commands to the Genos from the iPad/ForScore to select Registrations/Playlists?

Thanks
Al
 

Offline Fred Smith

Re: Does anyone have ForScore working with Genos via MIDI?
« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2019, 12:30:55 AM »
If it helps, I use Songbook this way where I use midi files to send commands to the iPad to select the pdf I want. So the keyboard supports it.

Cheers,
Fred
Fred Smith,
Saskatoon, SK
Sun Lakes, AZ
Genos, Bose L1 compacts, Finale 2015
Check out my Registration Lessons
 

Offline kbrkr

Re: Does anyone have ForScore working with Genos via MIDI?
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2019, 04:24:48 PM »
Thank you Fred.  Would you know the MIDI Sequence Songbook sends to the Genos to select a Registration and/or a playlist?
 

Offline Fred Smith

Re: Does anyone have ForScore working with Genos via MIDI?
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2019, 09:00:24 PM »
Thank you Fred.  Would you know the MIDI Sequence Songbook sends to the Genos to select a Registration and/or a playlist?

As I said, I do it the other way around. My registrations send a midi sequence to Songbook to select the PDF I want.

Cheers,
Fred
Fred Smith,
Saskatoon, SK
Sun Lakes, AZ
Genos, Bose L1 compacts, Finale 2015
Check out my Registration Lessons
 

Offline AndiiRoo

Re: Does anyone have ForScore working with Genos via MIDI?
« Reply #4 on: January 01, 2020, 11:49:24 AM »
I have all my scores/lead sheets in ForScore and i'm not interested in using SongBook+ as it just doesn't have the same level of features as ForScore.  With that said, does any one have experience sending MIDI commands to the Genos from the iPad/ForScore to select Registrations/Playlists?

Thanks
Al

OnSong is my preferred App for Scores as well as Chords over Lyrics, but I also have Songbook and Forscore although I'm not very familiar with the latter.

 I have set up OnSong both ways, to display the song in OnSong when I select a Genos registration, and also to select the registration when I choose a song in OnSong as it's quicker to browse a bigger list of songs on the iPad, than it is on the smaller Genos touch screen.

From a quick look at the ForScore App & User Guide v10.5, it looks perfectly feasible.
P.12 says
"In the “MIDI” section of the metadata panel, you can assign a unique command to each score and open it with some MIDI devices. You can also save a list of commands to be sent out each time that score is opened"
This is roughly what I do inOnSong.

Cheers, Andrew
Genos, Montage 7, HS5's, mfc10
Former Keyboards: T1/2/3/5 & various Organs
 

Offline Dromeus

Re: Does anyone have ForScore working with Genos via MIDI?
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2020, 05:39:46 PM »
Would you know the MIDI Sequence Songbook sends to the Genos to select a Registration and/or a playlist?

Hi

To open a registration stored on a USB stick use the following sysex message:

  • F0 43 73 01 52 26 03 00 00 00
  • USB:/YourPath/YourSong/YourSong.T556.rgt
  • 00 F7

The first part starts and identifies the sysex message.

The second part specifies the file location of your registration bank. As all my regs reside on a USB stick, "USB:/" is all ever need, but you may use "Preset:/" to access the regs that come as demo presets with the Genos, or "User:/" to access the user storage. "YourPath" must be the complete path incl subfolders. "T556" identifies the file icon that is used with the registration. Of course, the number depends on the icon used, so you have to look up the complete file name, e.g. by checking the folder directory with a PC. The ASCII string must be converted in HEX. I did not check how to access a second USB stick connected to Genos, I don't need that feature.

The third part ends the sysex message.

These three parts combined make a valid sysex message to get Genos to load your registration.

 I don't know about ForSCore, I use Cantabile for controlling my complete keyboard setup. In Cantibile I would simple enter the sysex string as

x"F0 43 73 01 52 26 03 00 00 00"
"USB:/MyPath/MySong/MySong.T556.rgt"
x"00 F7"

which is very handy and straightforward.

HTH
Michael
« Last Edit: January 01, 2020, 06:33:43 PM by Dromeus »
Regards, Michael
 

Offline kbrkr

Re: Does anyone have ForScore working with Genos via MIDI?
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2020, 01:04:34 AM »
Thank you Michael,

The first problem I see that i'm going to have right off the bat is ForScore only accepts HEX values and will not accept text for the Path/Reg name.  I'll have to figure that one out with the Software Developers help.
 

Offline Dromeus

Re: Does anyone have ForScore working with Genos via MIDI?
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2020, 08:46:01 AM »
To convert path/file name to hex you need a "ascii to hex converter". There are free apps out there to do the job, or just use any of (countless) online tools like http://dolcevie.com/js/converter.html.
Regards, Michael
 

Offline frozzers

Re: Does anyone have ForScore working with Genos via MIDI?
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2020, 09:22:21 AM »
ForScore is a great app but I think they're missing a trick not documenting how to connect their app via MIDI to a keyboard.

I've had a number of goes at it without success so if you can get it working that would be brilliant!

Cheers

Chris

Offline kbrkr

Re: Does anyone have ForScore working with Genos via MIDI?
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2020, 09:01:37 PM »
Your so right Chris...I've contacted the developer on the Facebook page to let them know.  Who knows, maybe they will address it.  I needled them that SongBook+ (a competitor) handles it much better and I'd rather not buy it!
 

Offline Marty

Re: Does anyone have ForScore working with Genos via MIDI?
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2020, 03:57:56 PM »
I have been in contact with 'Forscore' Customer support regarding this deficiency and have had a couple of email exchanges.

I advised that their app should included support for 'SysEx' messages.

Unfortunately the email responses didn't suggest that they would consider or implement anytime soon. I told them that the competition includes the option but it seems it fall on deaf ears!



Offline kbrkr

Re: Does anyone have ForScore working with Genos via MIDI?
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2020, 03:25:43 PM »
Thank you so much Marty !!!