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Offline metcam

SX-900 arived "Definitely missing some functions":
« on: December 05, 2019, 10:56:47 PM »
SX-900 on stand with Genos.

Great Keyboard. I got this as a Genos back up.

The only thing what I miss is MIXING onboard and external samples.

I hope Yamaha will add that options in next update.

I really don't like to compare my Yamahas to other branches but this options is already in KORG PA: 700, 1000, 600, 800 etc.

As I said the SX-900 is Really great keyboard but this is a big "Missing" for High level cost keyboard.

Best regards

Curent Instruments: GENOS the best of the best and sx900
Previus instruments:PSR-A3000,PSR9000,Tyros2,Tyros3,TYROS5,psr2000,psr2100,psr1500,psr530,psr OR700,DX7,DX11,V50,DX21.
KORG:pa800,KORG PA-900,Triton Extreme,Triton rack,.KORG X3,Roland G600.Roland
 

Offline EileenL

Re: SX-900 arived "Definitely missing some functions":
« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2019, 11:22:39 AM »
Have you loaded in your external samples from YEM into keyboard.

Offline metcam

Re: SX-900 arived "Definitely missing some functions":
« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2019, 01:35:32 PM »
Have you loaded in your external samples from YEM into keyboard.

 Yes.
« Last Edit: December 09, 2019, 01:37:50 PM by metcam »
Curent Instruments: GENOS the best of the best and sx900
Previus instruments:PSR-A3000,PSR9000,Tyros2,Tyros3,TYROS5,psr2000,psr2100,psr1500,psr530,psr OR700,DX7,DX11,V50,DX21.
KORG:pa800,KORG PA-900,Triton Extreme,Triton rack,.KORG X3,Roland G600.Roland
 

Offline EileenL

Re: SX-900 arived "Definitely missing some functions":
« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2019, 02:38:56 PM »
Do they play OK when you try them. If so what is the problem you have with mixing them in R1,2or3 with on board sounds.

Offline metcam

Re: SX-900 arived "Definitely missing some functions":
« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2019, 05:54:07 PM »
1.If they created ONLY from external samples they can be loaded in SX-900 and they play good.

2.If they created from internal Tyros/Genos voices they CAN'T be loaded.

3.If they created from internal onboard+ External samples (MIXED) they CAN'T be loaded.



All three above working in Genos/Tyros5  and only 1. working in SX-900

 2. and 3. working only in Tyros5/Genos and  Yamaha call that: SPECIAL FEATURES for Tyros5/Genos (YEM owners manual p-23) which  only for Tyros5/Genos really no make sense in my opinions.
 We need 2 and 3 also in SX.

This video show 2 and 3 and working ONLY on Genos/Tyros5. NOT possible on SX-900:

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KkKeyjOKRc&t=4s




Regards

« Last Edit: December 18, 2019, 11:40:18 AM by metcam »
Curent Instruments: GENOS the best of the best and sx900
Previus instruments:PSR-A3000,PSR9000,Tyros2,Tyros3,TYROS5,psr2000,psr2100,psr1500,psr530,psr OR700,DX7,DX11,V50,DX21.
KORG:pa800,KORG PA-900,Triton Extreme,Triton rack,.KORG X3,Roland G600.Roland
 

Offline metcam

Re: SX-900 arived "Definitely missing some functions":
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2019, 11:47:10 AM »
Another thing what I am missing is only 8 insert effects.

I think SX-900 deserve a lease 16 "Insert effects"

Anyway SX-900 is great keyboard.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2019, 12:00:13 PM by metcam »
Curent Instruments: GENOS the best of the best and sx900
Previus instruments:PSR-A3000,PSR9000,Tyros2,Tyros3,TYROS5,psr2000,psr2100,psr1500,psr530,psr OR700,DX7,DX11,V50,DX21.
KORG:pa800,KORG PA-900,Triton Extreme,Triton rack,.KORG X3,Roland G600.Roland
 

Offline DerekA

Re: SX-900 arived "Definitely missing some functions":
« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2019, 12:47:50 PM »
SX900 is effectively T5 repackaged, so you get the same number of insert effects that T5 had. This is a fairly common pattern with Yamaha, new generations tend to move the same feature sets 'down' a level. For example S670 (replacement for S650) was very much an S750.

You can't load packs that mix internal and external samples created on Genos, because SX might not have the same internal sample wave in its ROM. It might be possible to create packs that mix internal and external samples using only internal samples that are on SX but Yamaha choose not to. That's why they are special features :) Perhaps there is some horrible technical constraint, that would not surprise me ....

Offline metcam

Re: SX-900 arived "Definitely missing some functions":
« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2019, 03:30:41 PM »
SX900 is effectively T5 repackaged, so you get the same number of insert effects that T5 had. This is a fairly common pattern with Yamaha, new generations tend to move the same feature sets 'down' a level. For example S670 (replacement for S650) was very much an S750.

You can't load packs that mix internal and external samples created on Genos, because SX might not have the same internal sample wave in its ROM. It might be possible to create packs that mix internal and external samples using only internal samples that are on SX but Yamaha choose not to. That's why they are special features :) Perhaps there is some horrible technical constraint, that would not surprise me ....

Hi DerekA

I am pretty sure if Yamaha want they can fix this easy in next OS upgrade. Look what happened with Genos from start.
Genos is now with V 2.o a total different keyboard.

Regards
Curent Instruments: GENOS the best of the best and sx900
Previus instruments:PSR-A3000,PSR9000,Tyros2,Tyros3,TYROS5,psr2000,psr2100,psr1500,psr530,psr OR700,DX7,DX11,V50,DX21.
KORG:pa800,KORG PA-900,Triton Extreme,Triton rack,.KORG X3,Roland G600.Roland
 

Offline Johnypvable

Re: SX-900 arived "Definitely missing some functions":
« Reply #8 on: April 27, 2020, 10:10:01 PM »
How to play style part in Yamaha expansion manager

https://youtu.be/po64l6r9plI