Topic: NKI to SF2

[jugge]

Hi,

There is an application that suppose to convert Native Instruments Kontakt Instruments to soundfont format that we then can use on Genos.
Has anyone tried this or know of another application that can do this?  http://www.chickensys.com/products2/translator/formats.html

Thanks
/Jugge
 

[overover]

Hi Jugge,

"Awave Studio" supports many file types for import and export. In Version 11.3 they added support for reading Kontakt v3 files (.NKI).

https://www.fmjsoft.com/awavestudio.html#main

https://www.fmjsoft.com/awavestudio.html#formats

https://www.fmjsoft.com/awavestudio.html#news


"Extreme Sample Converter" is another program that supports .NKI and .SF2:

https://www.extranslator.com/index.php?page=exsc


Best regards,
Chris

[jugge]

Thanks Chris. I will look into them. I have a couple of Kontakt library's a and it would be cool to play them directly on the Genos.

/Jugge

[overover]

Thanks Chris. I will look into them. I have a couple of Kontakt library's a and it would be cool to play them directly on the Genos.

/Jugge

Hi Jugge,

thank you for your quick feedback!


P.S.
There is a DEMO version of "Awave Studio" for download. With this version, you can also save, but only once per session. Then you can restart the program and save again once.


Best regards,
Chris

[Normanfernandez]

Extreme Sample Convert supports only 32 bit

I've never had a good result from any of these softwares. 
FMJsoft seems to be broken.

[Tyros5Mad]

I have not tried this but theoretically you could create loops in your DAW and the make a style from that. I have the Sampletank 3 sounds, which was given away for free not so long ago. There are also many instrument plugins available with some very cool sounds.

I been thinking about a project for next year, creating new styles from my DAW. I use Reaper, which actually has scripting built in. I mean not just some lame macro tool but full support for Python, LUA and it's own scripting language called EEL. So I should be able to do something with that.

Regards,
Richard

[robinez]

as far as i know, the current NKI libraries are copyright protected and can't be converted directly. But you can resample them of course for the genos. I use Samplerobot 6 for that which does this automatically.

For instance for this video demo i created a 6 velocity layered sample set from the alicia keys piano (from Native instruments kontakt) and transfered that through YEM to my Genos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ply2eEndUo

This is quite easy to do in samplerobot 6 pro.

So directly converting NKI sets is not possible, but resampling and transfering the result to your own expansion packs is not that hard to do.

[Normanfernandez]

as far as i know, the current NKI libraries are copyright protected and can't be converted directly. But you can resample them of course for the genos. I use Samplerobot 6 for that which does this automatically.

For instance for this video demo i created a 6 velocity layered sample set from the alicia keys piano (from Native instruments kontakt) and transfered that through YEM to my Genos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ply2eEndUo

This is quite easy to do in samplerobot 6 pro.

So directly converting NKI sets is not possible, but resampling and transfering the result to your own expansion packs is not that hard to do.

Give me your Sample robot ,
I'll covert a lot of VSTs ha ha lol

[rodrigo.b]

as far as i know, the current NKI libraries are copyright protected and can't be converted directly. But you can resample them of course for the genos. I use Samplerobot 6 for that which does this automatically.

For instance for this video demo i created a 6 velocity layered sample set from the alicia keys piano (from Native instruments kontakt) and transfered that through YEM to my Genos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ply2eEndUo

This is quite easy to do in samplerobot 6 pro.

So directly converting NKI sets is not possible, but resampling and transfering the result to your own expansion packs is not that hard to do.

Good program but is expensive for me 

[rbackes]

as far as i know, the current NKI libraries are copyright protected and can't be converted directly. But you can resample them of course for the genos. I use Samplerobot 6 for that which does this automatically.

Your Piano sounds great.(and your playing too..)

But how big is the Voice that Samplerobot creates? The program is not cheap, but if it allows me to create voices from the Komplete-Synths (Kontakt etc.) absolutely worth the money.

Thanks

Rainer

[robinez]

Your Piano sounds great.(and your playing too..)

But how big is the Voice that Samplerobot creates? The program is not cheap, but if it allows me to create voices from the Komplete-Synths (Kontakt etc.) absolutely worth the money.

Thanks

Rainer

the size of the sampleset depends on your chosen settings. In this case i recorded 6 velocity samples per 5 notes where each sample is unlooped for 25 seconds. That's around 280 Megabytes for a copy of that voice.

But for sounds like leads i created in the Vengeance avenger VST, i sample them on 1 velocity for 5 seconds per note and let SampleRobot determine the loop sections (including crossfading), then the sampleset is very small.

So you have full control on the sample set you create.

In that example that i posted (the end) you also hear lots of pad sounds, these were also sampled from sounds that i created in VST's and transfered through Samplerobot to the Genos.
Samplerobot is worth it, it works flawlessly and does almost all the work on it's own while i watch netflix

[gabrielschuck]

as far as i know, the current NKI libraries are copyright protected and can't be converted directly. But you can resample them of course for the genos. I use Samplerobot 6 for that which does this automatically.

For instance for this video demo i created a 6 velocity layered sample set from the alicia keys piano (from Native instruments kontakt) and transfered that through YEM to my Genos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ply2eEndUo

This is quite easy to do in samplerobot 6 pro.

So directly converting NKI sets is not possible, but resampling and transfering the result to your own expansion packs is not that hard to do.

Hi robinez,
Thank you very much for recommending this excellent program.
I had already seen this thread when I got an older version to try and I really liked it. I intend to buy when the money allows me
Saved a lot of my time, really. Because of him I was more interested in getting into this world of samples and "cloning" of instruments.

You commented that you resampled Alicia Keys with 6 layers.
Based on what do you decide the number of layers to best sample a detailed instrument like the piano for example?
Surely the original instrument has much more than that, right?
I ask this because sometimes I wonder if I'm not adding more layers that make the pack unnecessarily large on my keyboard.
On the other hand, I'm very annoying about the quality. So if I used fewer layers to sample the same piano, maybe the result wouldn't be the same.
What do you think about it?
It's not that memory is necessarily a problem. I even have a lot of packs installed on my Tyros, but maybe because one or another sampled voice has too many layers, I can't handle more packs than I need.

Another question, now specifically about the Sample Robot: You mentioned that you sampled some pads and synth leads from the Avenger. When sampling with the assistant, it can automatically identify the loop points of instruments like "split & sequenses" and others as arpeggiators of this and other plugins?
Thankful once again.

[Drsun19]

Hi!

Of course Sample Robot can identify loop points accurately, sometimes you just need to do some tweaking but it is very easy. I play with a lot of arpeggiators from cover songs and the program detects the loop points perfectly.

You can also select the number of layers you want, if you don't want to sample some keys you just have to do minor adjustments and Voilá!

It's not cheap but it's whorth it.

Luis.

[ugawoga]

SAMPLE ROBOT

[DJIncendration]

Hi. I know I'm replying to a thread that's a year old, but I have a couple free methods for how to convert them.
If the samples are in wav format, you're good to go. Just use Polyphone to make SF2 directly, or you can use Notepad to create an SFZ file and then convert it using Polyphone (the ladder is more accessible with the NVDA screen reader since most of it is just in Notepad.)
If the samples are not wav files, you'll want to download a few programs. Don't worry, these programs are free and safe. First, download the program ConNCW for Windows (https://wdho.ru/99cH. This will allow you to convert NCW files to wav. Also, you should download Total Commander and the InNKX plugin for libraries like Alycia's Keys, which have NKX archives that contain the samples.

[rodrigo.b]

I does not work for me 

[gabrielschuck]

Hi. I know I'm replying to a thread that's a year old, but I have a couple free methods for how to convert them.
If the samples are in wav format, you're good to go. Just use Polyphone to make SF2 directly, or you can use Notepad to create an SFZ file and then convert it using Polyphone (the ladder is more accessible with the NVDA screen reader since most of it is just in Notepad.)
If the samples are not wav files, you'll want to download a few programs. Don't worry, these programs are free and safe. First, download the program ConNCW for Windows (https://wdho.ru/99cH. This will allow you to convert NCW files to wav. Also, you should download Total Commander and the InNKX plugin for libraries like Alycia's Keys, which have NKX archives that contain the samples.

Cool, I didn't know about that tip! 😊
I'll try it later.
Is the InNKX plugin link in the link you put here?

I create my samples in SFZ format by the method you described, that is, through notepad. Then I convert with programs like Polyphone or Awave Studio.
One problem I still haven't figured out how to work around would be finding an accessible way to adjust the individual volume of each layer in my sample without going directly through the YEM interface.
With the amp_velcurve_N opcode from sfz, I get a very good result, but when converting to SF2, the opcode is ignored because from what I understand there is no support for user defined velocity as this opcode does in sfz.
Have you noticed this too when converting your sfz to sf2 in YEM and would you have a solution for this?
I ask because I see that you also work with screen readers.
Thanks in advance!

[Neebo]

Hi Guys,

Just a heads up, Those who have Logic Pro have similar functionality to Samplerobot called Auto Sampler.  Works great check it out:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RpRPalOtBMI

Regards

Neebo