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Offline konaboy

PSRSX900 audio over USB?
« on: November 18, 2019, 10:32:28 PM »
it's unclear to me after reading the manuals if the USB to host terminal support transmitting audio data, or just midi.  Can anybody confirm?
 

Offline Toril S

Re: PSRSX900 audio over USB?
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2019, 10:41:28 PM »
Hello :) You use the USB to DEVICE for recording :)
Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

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Offline konaboy

Re: PSRSX900 audio over USB?
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2019, 11:08:22 PM »
HI!  i realise that, but is it midi-only or midi+audio?
 

Offline paulman

Re: PSRSX900 audio over USB?
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2019, 11:51:00 PM »
Everything that I have read indicates that the USB Host Port on the PSR-SX900 only supports MIDI data and NOT digital audio.
This is true of the Genos as well.  So, if you want to record the audio from the PSR-SX900 directly to your computer's DAW, you will need to connect the audio outputs of the PSR-SX900 to your computer's audio interface.
 

Offline Jingleman

Re: PSRSX900 audio over USB?
« Reply #4 on: November 19, 2019, 03:11:35 AM »
That is one of my biggest disappointments with Yamaha. They build audio interfaces in almost all their workstations...even the modx6 at $1200. Why can’t the arranger keyboards have it included?
Jingleman
 

Offline Fred Smith

Re: PSRSX900 audio over USB?
« Reply #5 on: November 19, 2019, 03:40:50 AM »
That is one of my biggest disappointments with Yamaha. They build audio interfaces in almost all their workstations...even the modx6 at $1200. Why can’t the arranger keyboards have it included?

You can record audio on the keyboard itself. What do you need audio out for?

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Fred
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Offline rcpilot

Re: PSRSX900 audio over USB?
« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2019, 01:34:02 PM »
Because Yamaha primarly makes arrangers for home player (read the Organ player types, like me...Haha) and not for Pro's needing DAW's type stuff. What would be great is to have ALL the PRO WS features on a SX and Genos...BUT the Yamaha PRO WS division would not like that to happen.....but we seem to be getting a little closer!
IMHO.
Lee
Yamaha SX-900, used to play Thomas and Yamaha Organ's
 

Offline Jingleman

Re: PSRSX900 audio over USB?
« Reply #7 on: November 19, 2019, 02:39:27 PM »
Because Yamaha primarly makes arrangers for home player (read the Organ player types, like me...Haha) and not for Pro's needing DAW's type stuff. What would be great is to have ALL the PRO WS features on a SX and Genos...BUT the Yamaha PRO WS division would not like that to happen.....but we seem to be getting a little closer!
IMHO.
Lee
With the quality of sounds being produced by today’s arranger keyboards...it only make sense to record using a daw. Especially if you want to add additional vocals or live instrumentalists. Often times you need to adjust your mix to improve balance and eq once you’ve completed your song.
Jingleman
 

Offline Jingleman

Re: PSRSX900 audio over USB?
« Reply #8 on: November 19, 2019, 02:45:59 PM »
Fred, your right...the onboard record feature is nice. But I see this as more of a quick record feature. If you make any mistakes...you have to start over. Recording to a daw allows for overdubbing and final tweaking.
Jingleman
 

Offline Jingleman

Re: PSRSX900 audio over USB?
« Reply #9 on: November 19, 2019, 02:53:55 PM »
The fact that Yamaha has added two sets of audio outputs on the SX900 certainly makes the recording process a lot easier. Personally, I will be running the drums out the second set of outputs...and the remaining tracks out the mains. This certainly gives more flexibility, but I have to use a 4x4 audio interface for daw recording. I believe that the modx usb audio out gives you 8 independent recording tracks.
Jingleman
 

Offline Fred Smith

Re: PSRSX900 audio over USB?
« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2019, 03:11:47 PM »
The fact that Yamaha has added two sets of audio outputs on the SX900 certainly makes the recording process a lot easier. Personally, I will be running the drums out the second set of outputs...and the remaining tracks out the mains. This certainly gives more flexibility, but I have to use a 4x4 audio interface for daw recording. I believe that the modx usb audio out gives you 8 independent recording tracks.

So is that what the audio out jack on the Genos is for? To record to a DAW? I'm asking as someone who's never used a DAW.

Cheers,
Fred
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Sun Lakes, AZ
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Offline konaboy

Re: PSRSX900 audio over USB?
« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2019, 05:59:57 PM »
other (cheaper) yamaha keyboards offer multi-track digital audio over usb for recording in DAW on PC.

the advantage is better quality than using analog, plus you can capture several channels of audio to separate tracks in your DAW in one take.  this is very powerful as you can process each track separately and adjust the mix after your performance.

sure, features like this are more for professional than casual users, or those who need more control for recording sessions or making video content.

but should be included I feel since this instrument is priced like a pro-instrument. i don't think anybody has confirmed for sure if it is possible with latest drivers and firmware.  I'll test myself next time I have it hooked up and I'll let you know.



 

Offline rcpilot

Re: PSRSX900 audio over USB?
« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2019, 09:38:12 PM »
It would be nice...when I got a similar discussion going a few years ago it was pointed out...on the Arrangers the content is a lot of what you pay for, while on PRO synth's it is the sounds, programmability, MIDI flexability, Sequencers and features to do the Pro (Daw etc) stuff for pro musicians in a band or production environment.
Also, some very knowledgeable people indicated the Mfg like Yamaha have internal wars going on to protect the lines between Home instruments and the PRO workstations (divisions), so stuff gets left out purposely to keep the peace.
Lee
Yamaha SX-900, used to play Thomas and Yamaha Organ's
 

Re: PSRSX900 audio over USB?
« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2019, 09:20:08 AM »
That is one of my biggest disappointments with Yamaha. They build audio interfaces in almost all their workstations...even the modx6 at $1200.

Not only in synths and workstations, also in the E-Series arrangers (PSR-E463, PSR-E363). It is totally beyond me why the SX series does not transmit audio via USB.
 

Offline Jingleman

Re: PSRSX900 audio over USB?
« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2019, 06:29:22 PM »
Not only in synths and workstations, also in the E-Series arrangers (PSR-E463, PSR-E363). It is totally beyond me why the SX series does not transmit audio via USB.
Is this a known fact that the e-series arrangers output audio through USB? If so...not including this feature on SX series blows my mind...internal Yamaha egos or not.
Jingleman
 

Offline paulman

Re: PSRSX900 audio over USB?
« Reply #15 on: November 21, 2019, 03:56:57 AM »
Yes, it is clearly stated in the Yamaha PSR-E463 specifications:

USB TO HOST:  Yes (MIDI/Audio: 44.1 kHz, 16 bit, stereo)

Yamaha has also provided sampling capability on this lower end PSR model that is absent from the higher end SX900/700 series.
 

Offline Jingleman

Re: PSRSX900 audio over USB?
« Reply #16 on: November 22, 2019, 05:29:02 PM »
Yes, it is clearly stated in the Yamaha PSR-E463 specifications:

USB TO HOST:  Yes (MIDI/Audio: 44.1 kHz, 16 bit, stereo)

Yamaha has also provided sampling capability on this lower end PSR model that is absent from the higher end SX900/700 series.
That appears to be a serious over sight on Yamaha’s part >:(
 

Offline konaboy

Re: PSRSX900 audio over USB?
« Reply #17 on: November 22, 2019, 06:04:11 PM »
i'll install all the drivers and do a test run tomorrow to answer definitely
 

Offline konaboy

Re: PSRSX900 audio over USB?
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2019, 01:30:46 PM »
No need to test anything, it's apparent on the driver download page and instructions that this is only USB-MIDI driver.  A surprising limitation in this day and age.