Author Topic: 4/4 to 6/8 Takt  (Read 4828 times)

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Offline Poknudes

4/4 to 6/8 Takt
« on: October 30, 2019, 10:40:57 AM »
Hello everyone!

If I have a 6/8 style I can use from other 4/4 style parts of it and will syncronize to 6/8 bar or cause the chaos.

The text was created with a translator I can not speak English hopefully it is understandable

Greetings Peter
 

Offline marc1956

Re: 4/4 to 6/8 Takt
« Reply #1 on: October 30, 2019, 10:49:24 AM »
From my music teaching I can't say it is not  possible.
4/4 means four notes of 1/4  in one measure.
6/8 means six notes of 1/8 in one measure.

so if  you paly with the 6/8 style the counting will absolutely wrong when you play 4/4 or otherwise.

Marc
 

Offline mikf

Re: 4/4 to 6/8 Takt
« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2019, 03:31:28 PM »
Well 6/8 and 4/4 are more closely related than you might think. 12/8 and 4/4 are virtually interchangeable, and so 6/8 is pretty closely related to 2/4, which is like a half bar of 4/4. For this reason Yamaha seem to use 4/4 as a fundamental unit in many of the styles labelled 12/8 and 6/8 and so it might not be the mess that you think - just try it. You can't do any harm.
Mike
 

Offline Wim NL

Re: 4/4 to 6/8 Takt
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2019, 08:16:46 PM »
I have modified 4/4 style in 6/8 only for Tyros and Genos.

You could try these.

Tyros4, 6/8 styles : https://app.box.com/s/2wkzzm8dhqpudpkh4jo4yr3pf96k5wao

Tyros 5, 6/8 styles : https://app.box.com/s/akaeq90q6qjnmghn9f321ssjglk6dr8a

Genos, 6/8 styles : https://app.box.com/s/9os68vkhv5lrog4kk9o4ltc4xmlws2j5
Best Regards,
Wim
 
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Offline marc1956

Re: 4/4 to 6/8 Takt
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2019, 08:26:58 PM »
Well 6/8 and 4/4 are more closely related than you might think. 12/8 and 4/4 are virtually interchangeable, and so 6/8 is pretty closely related to 2/4, which is like a half bar of 4/4. For this reason Yamaha seem to use 4/4 as a fundamental unit in many of the styles labelled 12/8 and 6/8 and so it might not be the mess that you think - just try it. You can't do any harm.
Mike

I think if  you say this to a choir master he is looking immediately grey.
You can count not a 6/8 into a 4/4.  You going a few steps further.  But even a 6/8 measure is not a 2/4 measure, and it is not a half bar 4/4.  It seems so, but you can't play it that way.  What are you gonna do with note's that are bound between the measure's. Looking forward to your solution.
If you doing this in a band, it's gonna be a great mess.
« Last Edit: October 30, 2019, 08:28:34 PM by marc1956 »
 

Offline mikf

Re: 4/4 to 6/8 Takt
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2019, 10:51:00 PM »
6/8 is two triplets, 12/8 is 4 triplets. They are very similar to 2/4 and 4/4. If you look at the Yamaha styles you will find some are called six eight or twelve eight but the actual styles are 4/4.
Time signatures are as much about imparting feel and making it easy to read as counting beats. Other than that of course 2/4 could be written in a 4/4 format. It may not impart  the correct rhythmic feel but it would be perfectly playable.
Mike