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Offline ckobu

Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« on: October 04, 2019, 09:14:21 AM »
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Offline ton37

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #1 on: October 04, 2019, 09:16:19 AM »
The waiting and guessing is over  ;) Enjoy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfrdEbbz1aM

Weposted by at the same time @Chobu  ;)
The moderator wil merge these postings, I guess
« Last Edit: October 04, 2019, 10:12:51 AM by ton37 »
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Offline marcodg

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2019, 10:17:19 AM »
Super.
3 Gb memory
Chord looper
Style reset
Whoaaaaaa  ;D ;D
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Offline metcam

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2019, 10:24:25 AM »


Yamahhhaaaaaaaaa  :)  :)  :)

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Offline valimaties

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2019, 10:57:51 AM »
Wow wow wow wow wow wow wow

The greatest knews I ever heard from Yamaha.  :-* :-* :-* :-* :-*
3 GB of memory?! Chord Looper?! Individual Scale?! Style Section Reset?!
This is AMAZING!!!

Oh, my God! I'm very excited  ;D ;D ;D

Finally YAMAHA IS with us!

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Offline reya

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2019, 11:32:23 AM »
Great news !

Strange that they can increase expansion memory with a software update though.
They must be taking it away from internal memory or something ???

And also additional voices and styles !! Very nice!

I hope the update is free of charge ...

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Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2019, 11:49:35 AM »
Great news !

Strange that they can increase expansion memory with a software update though.
They must be taking it away from internal memory or something ???

And also additional voices and styles !! Very nice!

I hope the update is free of charge ...

Best regards
Rudy
there is many ways to archieve this.. allocating memmory different.. lossless compression ofvthe memmory, hard disk streaming (thats what korg did)

Offline Bill

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2019, 01:08:30 PM »
Hi All

Come on guys,  with the greatest of respect, this is just wishful thinking.

It is not from Yamaha,  although the guy has made a good job of the Video. 

Have you not heard of the increasing trend in Fake News.

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Offline Yamahaman

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2019, 01:28:41 PM »
@Bill:
So you think all of the videos on the Yamaha_Global channel are fake....??
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Offline Gunnar Jonny

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2019, 02:02:30 PM »
Looks very promising. 👍
As far as I know, we've never seen such big updates at same model during the Tyros series.
If Genos is capable for more big softwareupdates after v2.0, I doubt we will se any G2 in nearest future.

I doubt that this is 'fake news' looking to where the video is located. Copied the link from a post at SZ. 😊
https://www.youtube.com/user/yamahacorporation/videos
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gerarde

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Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #10 on: October 04, 2019, 02:15:34 PM »
Where that video is located is not Yamaha corporation.
On its about page it lists its website as http://www.global.yamaha.com/
That site does not exist.
It is most likely a fake.

Gerard
 

Offline reya

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #11 on: October 04, 2019, 02:28:22 PM »
Where that video is located is not Yamaha corporation.
On its about page it lists its website as http://www.global.yamaha.com/
That site does not exist.
It is most likely a fake.

Gerard


ths is the about page of that same youtube channel

https://www.youtube.com/user/yamahacorporation/about

looks genuine to me

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Offline Fred Smith

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #12 on: October 04, 2019, 02:32:46 PM »
It looks authentic to me.

But time will tell.

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Offline EileenL

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #13 on: October 04, 2019, 03:04:53 PM »
I just don't understand some of the people on here. Many have been asking for these things as updates then say they must be Fake. I can assure you that this is the new update coming along in the winter.
 
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tvskyfreak

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Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #14 on: October 04, 2019, 03:07:45 PM »
The video is 100% authentic and by Yamaha. if you go to Yamahas official Genos site (or any other instrument really) and check out the videos there, most of them are from that YouTube channel, so it is legit...
 
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Offline DerekA

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2019, 03:58:10 PM »
I hope this is real - 3GB expansion memory would be a great feature.

The Yamaha product web page has a section on Genos updates. If this V2 appears on there, it's genuine.

https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/genos/index.html#product-tabs

[@tvskyfreak it's just the opposite way round ...... anyone can copy videos from an official channel and put them on their own channel. That does not make anything else they put on their channel also legit]
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Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2019, 04:04:15 PM »
I mean - if you check Yamaha's site about V4.1 (https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/genos/index.html#product-tabs) - the video on there is from the same channel Yamaha_Global which has 168k subscribes. The new 2.0 video is from the exact same channel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfrdEbbz1aM) - so it's got to be authentic :)
 

Online Joe H

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2019, 04:11:50 PM »
It looks authentic to me.

But time will tell.

Cheers,
Fred

I agree... Most of the Youtube videos are produces by Yamaha Corporation of America. I've never seen Yamaha Global before.  Many people are reproducing Yamaha videos... but this one has the official Yamaha logo.

"But time will tell".

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Offline valimaties

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2019, 04:14:55 PM »
I don't think Yamaha Corporation will let anyone in the world using its name, at least on Youtube channel name.
It looks very authentic to me.

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Offline Dromeus

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2019, 04:53:37 PM »
I'm a follower of Yamaha_Global since many years. This channel was created in 2007 and has up today some 115 million hits. There is absolutely no doubt that this is an official Yamaha channel. The Yamaha Music Europe channel provides links to other Yamaha YT channels, which does include Yamaha_Global :

https://www.youtube.com/user/YamahaMusicEurope/channels?view=49&shelf_id=25

There may be even more channels, but due to these links Yamaha_Global has the largest number of followers.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2019, 04:55:58 PM by Dromeus »
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Offline panos

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2019, 04:58:12 PM »
https://usa.yamaha.com/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/genos/index.html

The demo of Genos in Yamaha's site comes from the above Youtube Channel(Yamaha Global).
Yamaha seems to have several official channels on Youtube, like Yamaha Global,Yamaha music Europe,Yamaha Motors etc.

So there is no such thing as "fake" video.
« Last Edit: October 04, 2019, 05:00:19 PM by panos »
 

Offline Al Ram

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2019, 05:02:53 PM »
thanks. 

I skipped 1.4 because i read there were some problems . . .

can i install 2.0 now or do i have to instal 1.4 first and then 2.0?

thanks in advance.
AL
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Offline Dromeus

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2019, 05:05:45 PM »
On its about page it lists its website as http://www.global.yamaha.com/
That site does not exist.
It is most likely a fake.

http://www.global.yamaha.com/ once was a global gateway to Yamaha music instrument sites. You may have a look back to the past (snapshot from 2005):

https://web.archive.org/web/20051001081233/http://www.global.yamaha.com/

When Yamaha_Global was created, global.yamaha.com existed. It is very common that links won't get updated...
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Offline Fred Smith

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2019, 05:37:25 PM »
thanks. 

I skipped 1.4 because i read there were some problems . . .

can i install 2.0 now or do i have to instal 1.4 first and then 2.0?

thanks in advance.

Yamaha updates have always included all previous changes, meaning you can just install 2.0.

But wait? 2.0 won't be out until "Winter 2019". Install 1.41 now, and enjoy its benefits while you wait for 2.0.

Cheers,
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Offline ugawoga

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2019, 06:01:19 PM »
RIGHT SAID FRED!!! ;D

"IM TOO SEXY SEXY FOR MY GENOS"!!!! 8)

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Offline metcam

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2019, 06:13:25 PM »
The update coming on Winter time so there is still time for Yamaha to accomplish work on "TERCA" unless is already done.

1. Note shift to all individuals tones +/-12 separate for R1,R2,R3
2.Tuning scale individual for R1,R2,R3
3.Base note-which we already have
4. Possibility to memorized in Reg.Memory all

This is what a lot of musicians dream since a long time ago....

Thanks Yamaha

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Offline valimaties

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2019, 06:20:08 PM »
Metcam, it can (or not?!  ???), and it is individual, for each voice part... I don't know which is the maximum value accepted for a note. They wrote in a note on SX manual, that the value increased/decreased is as 1/100th of a semitone, which means that value represent a real percent of a semitone. If that value can be more than 100, is a very good thing, we can make terca, if not, is useless, we cannot do it ;)
More than that it has SubScale, but the things is, if it is like on SX, only the SubScale cannot be saved in registration, is only a temporary scale. But Main Scale is saved in registrations.



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Offline Normanfernandez

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2019, 06:29:43 PM »
Am I the only one who's feeling like , Genos 1 came out yesterday??
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Offline Luluc

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #28 on: October 04, 2019, 06:45:09 PM »
Hi all Genosphils,

In order to participate to the ambiance of excitation, could anybody explain to the newbee what is the feature 'Style reset' ?
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Offline Normanfernandez

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #29 on: October 04, 2019, 06:50:10 PM »
Hi all Genosphils,

In order to participate to the ambiance of excitation, could anybody explain to the newbee what is the feature 'Style reset' ?

I think that it puts the Beat count to 1.
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Offline valimaties

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #30 on: October 04, 2019, 06:59:28 PM »
Luluc, if you did not hear about it (its present on the market about 20 years ago) you must watch the SX-900 presentation video and you will see and hear what is Style Section Reset.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxlKY9dNeZM

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Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #31 on: October 04, 2019, 07:06:36 PM »
Hi,
can anyone tell me what can this "Scale" function do without? And, possibly give a precise example of use?
thank you in advance
Good evening
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Offline soryt

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #32 on: October 04, 2019, 07:18:54 PM »
I have a little hope that they add rotary control to the programmable foot pedal to use it with the Mfc 10 , never missed style reset or chord looper .

Soryt  :)
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Offline Luluc

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #33 on: October 04, 2019, 07:22:22 PM »
Luluc, if you did not hear about it (its present on the market about 20 years ago) you must watch the SX-900 presentation video and you will see and hear what is Style Section Reset.

I watched the vid. OK, it's a cool feature I will use.
It's said that the style section reset can be triggered using a footswitch. I understand a pedal. As we can only connect two pedals already assigned to two functions, I hope we will get too a SysEx code to control this feature.
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Offline ckobu

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #34 on: October 04, 2019, 07:23:09 PM »
Hi,
can anyone tell me what can this "Scale" function do without? And, possibly give a precise example of use?
thank you in advance
Good evening
Seagull29

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Offline valimaties

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #35 on: October 04, 2019, 07:24:40 PM »
Seagull29,
Scale is used on most of EastEurope music and Arabic music (maybe others too).

If you can select more than a semitone in a scale value, you can simple make your own Harmony setting. There are some combinations of scales that Harmony Settings of Yamaha (Korg, Roland) cannot make to play a good harmony. All is about that Root Note and the mathematical relations between notes. In fact, music is math :D Math + soul = happiness :D

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Offline panos

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #36 on: October 04, 2019, 07:32:46 PM »
Hi Seagul,
the scale tuning we are using for playing music was developed over the years for playing Western Europe's music (Classical music.Afterwards jazz,rock etc)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musical_tuning

Other kinds of music were/are using different scale tuning that can "suit" better to the ear for  specific musical scales(there are many more than we used to play) and instruments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt2c3ByxqnI


In our keyboards we have some different scale tuning function as "presets".
On my psr are in "Master tune/Scale tune" (Function button + A button)

Offline Al Ram

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #37 on: October 04, 2019, 08:05:27 PM »
Yamaha updates have always included all previous changes, meaning you can just install 2.0.

But wait? 2.0 won't be out until "Winter 2019". Install 1.41 now, and enjoy its benefits while you wait for 2.0.

Cheers,
Fred

Fred.

thanks for the clarification.  I thought the excitement was because the 2.0 upgrade was already available as of now.  Evidently it is not.   thanks again.   
AL
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Offline BartW

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #38 on: October 04, 2019, 08:24:09 PM »
Well done Yamaha! For me, the chord looper, is such a desirable feature. I am also excited for the 50 new styles. It will feel like Christmas!
 

Offline valimaties

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #39 on: October 04, 2019, 08:24:27 PM »
Fred.

thanks for the clarification.  I thought the excitement was because the 2.0 upgrade was already available as of now.  Evidently it is not.   thanks again.

No, Al  ;D
The excitement is for WHAT the new update will bring.
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Offline metcam

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #40 on: October 04, 2019, 09:11:31 PM »
Metcam, it can (or not?!  ???), and it is individual, for each voice part... I don't know which is the maximum value accepted for a note. They wrote in a note on SX manual, that the value increased/decreased is as 1/100th of a semitone, which means that value represent a real percent of a semitone. If that value can be more than 100, is a very good thing, we can make terca, if not, is useless, we cannot do it ;)
More than that it has SubScale, but the things is, if it is like on SX, only the SubScale cannot be saved in registration, is only a temporary scale. But Main Scale is saved in registrations.



Regards




Regards
Vali

That's why we need also "NOTE SHIFT"  or "Key transpose" and than everything must to be memorized in Registar memory.
Right there is end of the story :)

I think Yamaha will fix that to we have Finally  "TERCA" (USER HARMONY) on Genos.
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Offline pjd

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #41 on: October 04, 2019, 10:12:07 PM »
WRT increasing expansion memory

there is many ways to archieve this.. allocating memmory different.. lossless compression ofvthe memmory, hard disk streaming (thats what korg did)

Hi Bachus --

We're on the same page here. I think Yamaha has implemented compression of user waveform samples. Given Yamaha's commitment to quality sound, I don't think they would use a lossy compression.

Streaming? I don't think they can. (Prove me wrong, Yamaha!  :) )  The data channel from the eMMC device (64GB) is relatively slow; it's definitely not as fast as a SATA-based SSD. It uses the funky integrated eMMC data channel provided by the ARM processor. All sample data would need to flow from the eMMC to the ARM and then from the ARM to one of the tone generator waveform memories.

I'm looking forward to learning more about this improvment.

All the best -- pj

P.S. Montage/MODX users are still screaming for user waveform compression...
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Offline voodoo

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #42 on: October 04, 2019, 10:48:41 PM »
Pj

I think that they used the memory that has been reserved for audio styles before they enabled Genos to read audio styles from USB devices. What do you think?

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Offline pjd

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #43 on: October 04, 2019, 11:11:18 PM »
Pj

I think that they used the memory that has been reserved for audio styles before they enabled Genos to read audio styles from USB devices. What do you think?

Uli

Hi Uli --

That's an interesting idea! I guess we'll have to wait to get more information before we can infer how they really did it!

Almost done unpacking and reorganizing the studio. Fortunately, Genos and MODX arrived unscathed. I've found a church group which does a lot of gospel music in addition to the usual hymns and psalms. Lots of B3, so I'm smiling!  :) :) :)

It's good to be practicing on a full size keyboard, again. So, far, I've been rehearsing and playing live with the YC and its mini-keys.

Take care -- pj

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Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #44 on: October 05, 2019, 03:24:06 PM »
Hi Uli --

That's an interesting idea! I guess we'll have to wait to get more information before we can infer how they really did it!

Almost done unpacking and reorganizing the studio. Fortunately, Genos and MODX arrived unscathed. I've found a church group which does a lot of gospel music in addition to the usual hymns and psalms. Lots of B3, so I'm smiling!  :) :) :)

It's good to be practicing on a full size keyboard, again. So, far, I've been rehearsing and playing live with the YC and its mini-keys.

Take care -- pj

I don’t know about this..
There seem to be 2 soundprocessors in the Genos
Each having 128 voice polyphony..
One for the onboard voices
One for the expansion voices

Which made me believe each of these soundprocessors has its own memmory..
The onboard soundram of Genos was about 2 GB
Same goes for the Expansion sounds
((((Where Montage has 6 GB +2GB) all on 1 sounprcocessor where the 2nd is for FMX))))

So with both adding new sounds (advanced sounds) as well as expandingbthe expansion sounds
Lossless real time compression seems to be the answer, to this miracle
 

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #45 on: October 05, 2019, 03:53:34 PM »
I began to count down in the hangover and suspense. It's like 2 years before the first leaked images of Genos, but no date of the 2019 winter timeline will start from which date?
It is October 5 now that it is almost the end of autumn. So will the winter be December 30, 2019?
Or Genos 2.0 OS will release exactly 2 years on the launch of Genos (October 2017)
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Offline pjd

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #46 on: October 05, 2019, 05:03:12 PM »
Hi Bachus --

I lean toward compression, too. Yamaha's memory allocation (especially waveform memory) is rather clunky. In their defense, the clunkiness is partially due to the need to lay out samples (compressed or uncompressed) in contiguous, sequential chunks. This is necessary to maintain a high enough data transfer rate from ONFI flash.

I feel like I'm already out on a limb with speculation. More details from Yamaha should help us to fill in the story.

All the best -- pj
 

Offline Bill

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #47 on: October 05, 2019, 05:37:17 PM »
Pj

I think that they used the memory that has been reserved for audio styles before they enabled Genos to read audio styles from USB devices. What do you think?

Uli

Hi Uli

I do not think that Yamaha actually reserved any memory for the Audio Styles in the Genos.  Yes they did on the Tyros 5.

Bill
England

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Bachus

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Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #48 on: October 05, 2019, 05:55:45 PM »
Hi Bachus --

I lean toward compression, too. Yamaha's memory allocation (especially waveform memory) is rather clunky. In their defense, the clunkiness is partially due to the need to lay out samples (compressed or uncompressed) in contiguous, sequential chunks. This is necessary to maintain a high enough data transfer rate from ONFI flash.

I feel like I'm already out on a limb with speculation. More details from Yamaha should help us to fill in the story.

All the best -- pj

We will , see, in the end the choosen tech is not whats important, its important that think work ..

Really looking forward to this patch..
There is a lot of goodness in it..
But its espescially good to see proof that Yamaha Arrangers is finally on the sme track as Yamaha Synths..


Whats also good to know is that all these things where in a post about 2 years ago, that got deleted and turned into drama.  Hope we will see more of the goodness described in that post in the future..

Offline Dromeus

Re: Yamaha Genos Version 2.0 Teaser
« Reply #49 on: October 05, 2019, 06:54:59 PM »
But its espescially good to see proof that Yamaha Arrangers is finally on the sme track as Yamaha Synths..

Over and over again there will be a miracle...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0Ups_6r1E8

 :-*
Regards, Michael