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Offline ton37

How is the sales price of the PSR SX900 determined?
« on: September 04, 2019, 07:14:48 PM »
It is pure guessing and speculation. I am certainly not an economist, but how far am I wrong? Just a brain tune, it's raining outside and I have sold my keyboard!  ;) ;D

  • PAM/Yamaha Advice Price €2359,-
    Local Tax/Europe  (-/- BTW/Tax 21% = €  495,-) = €1861,-
    Dealer Commission/Warranty/Service (-/- 35% = <€650,-) =  €1210,-
    Import duties, transport, etc. (-/- 6% = € 72,-) = €1137,-
    Yamaha Profit Margin (60% = <-/- €739,-) = € 395,-
    Production Costs/Development/etc. <€395,-
NB. If the sales prizes decreases the profit for the Dealer/Yamaha decreases too…
« Last Edit: September 04, 2019, 09:49:36 PM by ton37 »
My best regards,
Ton
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Former KB:Technics Sx-Kn7000, Tyros 5/76, Genos, S770, S975.
 

Offline EileenL

Re: How is the sales price of the PSR SX900 determined?
« Reply #1 on: September 05, 2019, 12:49:12 AM »
My dealer is selling them for £1967 but there is always space to negotiate

Offline ton37

Re: How is the sales price of the PSR SX900 determined?
« Reply #2 on: September 05, 2019, 11:29:40 AM »
Exactly @EileenL, that is also the price that can be seen in NL (the lowest at the moment is € 2167,-  ( 1.942 BP)), and I like to negotiate  ;)
My best regards,
Ton
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Former KB:Technics Sx-Kn7000, Tyros 5/76, Genos, S770, S975.
 

beykock

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Re: How is the sales price of the PSR SX900 determined?
« Reply #3 on: September 05, 2019, 12:17:54 PM »
Hi :

The SX900 enduser price is much higher than expected but I am sure this new arranger will be a commercial success for Yamaha.
 
Yamaha dealers are now advising their customers to sell their " old " keyboards privately. 

Babette

 

Offline DerekA

Re: How is the sales price of the PSR SX900 determined?
« Reply #4 on: September 05, 2019, 12:50:00 PM »
Yamaha dealers are now advising their customers to sell their " old " keyboards privately. 

I think that used T5 and new SX900 will be in direct competition with one another in the showrooms.

I expect the trade-in value of T5 to drop quite a bit over the next few months. Currently in the UK you can expect to get about £1100 trade in for a T5.
Genos
 

Offline EileenL

Re: How is the sales price of the PSR SX900 determined?
« Reply #5 on: September 05, 2019, 01:40:33 PM »
The SX900 is more advanced than Tyros 5 and now it has three right hand voices as well as other new features should sell very well and I would say the price is less than some of us expected for what you are getting.
  Tyros 5 is still a good keyboard but like everything else technology advances and we get more goodies to play with.

beykock

  • Guest
Re: How is the sales price of the PSR SX900 determined?
« Reply #6 on: September 05, 2019, 02:23:58 PM »
Maybe the SX900 is more advanced than the Genos ?

Babette
 

Offline EileenL

Re: How is the sales price of the PSR SX900 determined?
« Reply #7 on: September 05, 2019, 02:33:02 PM »
No they would be silly to do that Genos still has a lot more to it than the SX900 which does not have Super articulated Two voices plus a lot more.
  You have to remember that this is a mid range keyboard and the price reflects this.

Offline vbdx66

Re: How is the sales price of the PSR SX900 determined?
« Reply #8 on: September 05, 2019, 04:36:25 PM »
Hi Eileen,

But I thought the Tyros 5 had Super Articulation 2 so the SX900 is not more advanced than the Tyros for everything it seems. Also, will not the Tyros 5 still have a better keybed and a better sound system than the SX900?

I’d say it would make sense to compare them side by side.

Regards,

Vinciane
Past keyboards: PSR E313, PSR E413, PSR E433, PSR S550, DGX 640, upright piano.
Now: DGX 650, Casio CT-X800.
 

beykock

  • Guest
Re: How is the sales price of the PSR SX900 determined?
« Reply #9 on: September 05, 2019, 05:59:04 PM »
Hi :

All Yamaha keyboards are very reliable and popular keyboards. Old or new, high end or low end.
They are ALL great keyboards !🍀

When new Yamaha arrangers are launched we are always reading here the newest models are oh so much better than their predecessors.

We all know as soon as the Genos2 will be available,  again we will hear from some members of this forum, the Genos2 is so much better than the Genos.😀

Babette
« Last Edit: September 05, 2019, 06:14:41 PM by beykock »
 

Offline rgw

Re: How is the sales price of the PSR SX900 determined?
« Reply #10 on: September 05, 2019, 06:55:46 PM »
Camberlain Music are selling the SX900 for ££1,654

Richard.
 

Offline ton37

Re: How is the sales price of the PSR SX900 determined?
« Reply #11 on: September 05, 2019, 07:22:18 PM »
Hi @Rgw, including VAT it is 2057 BP  ;)
My best regards,
Ton
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Former KB:Technics Sx-Kn7000, Tyros 5/76, Genos, S770, S975.
 

Offline rgw

Re: How is the sales price of the PSR SX900 determined?
« Reply #12 on: September 05, 2019, 07:40:19 PM »
Hi Ton,

There had to be a catch! Misleading adverising in my opinion,

Best wishes,
Richard.
 

Offline gogo

Re: How is the sales price of the PSR SX900 determined?
« Reply #13 on: September 06, 2019, 04:06:56 AM »
our dealer synchronises their prices with Thomann. So it is SX900 for €2300 and sx700 for €1300. A few years ago I got the s700 for less than €1000, so there is a 30% price increase.
Hi :

All Yamaha keyboards are very reliable and popular keyboards. Old or new, high end or low end.
They are ALL great keyboards !🍀

When new Yamaha arrangers are launched we are always reading here the newest models are oh so much better than their predecessors.

We all know as soon as the Genos2 will be available,  again we will hear from some members of this forum, the Genos2 is so much better than the Genos.😀

Babette

Coming from s900 to s770 (skipped 2 generations) I can say the s770 is a better keyboard, mainly because I paid for it half of what I did for the s900. Now I can install extra sounds and other content, there are more SA voices, etc. Whether the extra content is of good quality is another question. There are much better drum voices on the s770 than s900. So yes, it is a (much) better keyboard.

If you are not a performer and do not play these keyboards to make money, you can safely skip 2 generations of these. Buying each generation makes less sense for the home player. Besides, they are updating these things so often that I lost the numbers. If my memory serves me well,  since I got the s900 in 2007 we’ve had s900, s910, s950, s970, s975, sx900 - 6 generations for 13 years, meaning they update the keyboards every other year on average.

 

Re: How is the sales price of the PSR SX900 determined?
« Reply #14 on: September 06, 2019, 11:07:21 AM »
Hi Eileen,

But I thought the Tyros 5 had Super Articulation 2 so the SX900 is not more advanced than the Tyros for everything it seems. Also, will not the Tyros 5 still have a better keybed and a better sound system than the SX900?

I’d say it would make sense to compare them side by side.

Regards,

Vinciane

Hi Vinciane,

I agree with you with this. As much as the SX900 will certainly have some new features, styles and sounds, I still don't think it would match up in quality to the last couple of the Tyros models as they were top end keyboards. In the Tyros range, I think a T4 or T5 would still outclass it in some area's. For example, I've compared my S975 to my Tyros 4 and you hear the difference in quality between the two even though the S975 has some new stuff.
Tyros4, PSR-SX900, PSR-S975, Korg Pa1000, & GEM WK8 SE Megastation
 

Offline ikmusic

Re: How is the sales price of the PSR SX900 determined?
« Reply #15 on: September 06, 2019, 12:12:22 PM »
As much as the SX900 will certainly have some new features, styles and sounds, I still don't think it would match up in quality to the last couple of the Tyros models as they were top end keyboards.

I agree with this statement.
EDP + PSR-SX700 + Roland Ra95. Wcześniej były:
Yamaha: Tyros 4/3/2 S970 S770 S750 S710 S670 PSR1500 E413 W7v2 V50
Roland: BK9 BK7m BK5 G800 E35 E70 E50 U20 Ra90 JV50 Mc500
Korg: Pa4x Pa1000 01Wfd
Ketron: SD5
 

Offline EileenL

Re: How is the sales price of the PSR SX900 determined?
« Reply #16 on: September 06, 2019, 02:51:48 PM »
Like I always say you have to hear and play these keyboards yourself. We all have different idea's of sound styles and easily used functions.It is always nice to get a new keyboard that has new additions
to it such as Chord looper Style reset Playlist function Assignable effect knobs which are fun to use Larger internal speakers. Larger User memory and much lighter to carry around than a Tyros.
  I think this will become a very popular keyboard for home and gig use for those who prefer a 61 note keyboard.

Re: How is the sales price of the PSR SX900 determined?
« Reply #17 on: September 06, 2019, 03:17:14 PM »
Yes you are most certainly going to get some exclusive benefits from using the mid range models, and portability is certainly one of them. Lots of nice new features and then with the added bonus of it sounding very close to a top line model as well, you can't go wrong really. I certainly can't wait for it to arrive at my doorstep !
Tyros4, PSR-SX900, PSR-S975, Korg Pa1000, & GEM WK8 SE Megastation
 

Offline pjd

Re: How is the sales price of the PSR SX900 determined?
« Reply #18 on: September 06, 2019, 10:36:16 PM »
Hi Eileen,

But I thought the Tyros 5 had Super Articulation 2 so the SX900 is not more advanced than the Tyros for everything it seems. Also, will not the Tyros 5 still have a better keybed and a better sound system than the SX900?

I’d say it would make sense to compare them side by side.

Regards,

Vinciane

Hi Vinciane --

It's always so difficult to do a true head-to-head comparison since the technology/feature set does not advance "uniformly" from model to model -- there are always bursts of innovation or improvment in certain specific areas.

I think it's (more) important for a musician to carefully evaluate her or his needs and goals. Then choose on their personal basis. A used Tyros could be the right answer for someone, based first on need and based second on budget. Heck, an E series could even be the appropriate choice!  ;)

Always love your comments -- pj