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Offline SciNote

Wish List -- PSR-E473 / PSR-EX400 / PSR-E560...
« on: August 10, 2019, 09:23:22 AM »
... Or whatever the heck it may be called!

I would expect this model to come out sometime next year, so maybe Yamaha could use a nudge while they're designing it!

So, Yamaha, can we please get...

1. Portamento, at least on some of the synth sounds (Casio now offers this for $180).

2. Upgrade the sequencer a little bit.  I realize too much of an upgrade would compete with the S670, so it's fine to keep it at six tracks.  Just PLEASE add the ability to do some basic editing on a track so the entire track does not have to be rerecorded if you make a mistake.  Simply adding the ability to select a measure of a particular track and start new recording from that measure without erasing the previous measures would be fine.  The ability to adjust the volume of each track would be nice, as well.

3. Improve the key feel.  Come on, Yamaha, you nailed it with the E433, so you have the capability to put a superior keyboard in a lower cost instrument.  Let's see you do it again.

4. More registrations?  Again, not so much as to compete with the S670, but either two more buttons per bank, or at least two more banks (we have Banks 1-8, so add Bank 9 and Bank 0) would be nice.

5. The E463 (or maybe this was also in the E453) introduced the ability to add reverb and chorus to the rhythm/style section, as well as filtering.  But as soon as you change the rhythm/style or turn the keyboard off, those settings are cleared.  Consider having the keyboard remember those settings, even if the style is changed or if the keyboard is turned off and back on, so that you can change the rhythm for different songs and still have your custom rhythm/style reverb, chorus, and filtering without having to reset those parameters with each change of the rhythm/style.  Or maybe a memory button to store your favorite rhythm/style custom parameters.  Yes, this can all be saved to a registration, but then that also saves the tempo and keyboard sounds.  Being able to save these custom rhythm/style parameters while using the registrations primarily for saving keyboard sounds would be beneficial.

6. Speaking of the styles, instead of having one button that toggles between sections A and B, how about having a separate button for each section, with an LED indicating which section is playing?  This way, if you just want a drum fill without changing the A/B section, you just hit the button for the section that is currently playing.  But if you want to change the A/B section, you just hit the button for the section that is not playing.  Alternately, keep the current A/B toggle button, but add a dedicated drum fill button that does not change which A/B section is playing.  Again, no need to add a C and D section and compete with the S670.  Just give us a little more control -- especially since this layout hasn't been changed in, what, at least a decade?

7. Improve the display screen.  No, there's no need to make a complex high-resolution color screen.  But adding one or two more lines of text would allow for conveniences such as seeing the name of the parameter you're changing, as well as its value, all at once, or the ability to see the names of the sounds for the current main, dual, and split voices all at once.

8. Add a setting that allows the sustain pedal to affect both sides of a split keyboard.

9. Having the ability to have a dual voice on the left side of a split keyboard would be nice, but I won't hold my breath, as even a PSR-S975 doesn't do that.  Yet, the old PSR-500 and PSR-510 models from the 1990's did have this feature.

10. Provide a setting that allows you to change the main voice without also changing the dual voice.  With the current model, changing the main voice automatically clears your previous dual voice settings and fills them with settings that Yamaha deems as most appropriate to complement the main voice.  But if you're trying to get a particular sound and going back and forth changing parameters between the main and dual voices, it would be nice to keep the dual voice settings intact if you change the main voice.

These are my suggestions, so far!  Feel free to add others!
Bob
Current: Yamaha PSR-E433, Roland GAIA SH-01, Casio CDP-200R, Casio MT-68 (wired to bass pedals)
Past: Yamaha PSR-520, PSR-510, PSR-500, DX-7, D-80 home organ, and a few Casios
 
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Offline 3dc

Re: Wish List -- PSR-E473 / PSR-EX400 / PSR-E560...
« Reply #1 on: August 10, 2019, 10:55:53 AM »
With CASIO CTX5000 seriously biting into Yamaha PSR-S670 class I hope Yamaha will respond soon with all guns available....preferably as soon as possible or while we can still resist CASIO offer. Do you hear Yamaha? Help! Help now! :)
Yamaha PSR-E463

The ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands in moments of comfort and convenience, but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy.
- Martin Luther King, Jr.
 

Offline vbdx66

Re: Wish List -- PSR-E473 / PSR-EX400 / PSR-E560...
« Reply #2 on: August 10, 2019, 07:55:14 PM »
Hi guys, great topic  8)

Here is my wishlist:

-Portamento button.
-Dedicated Main A and Main B buttons (I have this on the CT-X800!!!)
-Please give us back the keybed of the PSR E433... please...
-Freeze button (@Bob: this will take care of point 5 in your list).
-Mixer.
-A few more Sweet! and Cool! sounds. Man, the PSR E line is dying for a palatable acoustic and electric guitar, a decent clarinet (of the same quality as the Sweet! Tenor Sax) and a usable Solo Violin, as well as a Cello.
-Please, move the headphone jack socket and the USB to Device port to the front of the keyboard! Today’s layout is cumbersome to say the least.
-And: the possibility to read styles directly from the USB stick would simply be great. It is already possible to red MIDI files from a stick, so why not styles? I am sure it is really easy to implement in th OS, my DGX650 can do it.

Regards,

Vinciane
Past keyboards: PSR E313, PSR E413, PSR E433, PSR S550, DGX 640, upright piano.
Now: DGX 650, Casio CT-X800.
 

Offline SciNote

Re: Wish List -- PSR-E473 / PSR-EX400 / PSR-E560...
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2019, 02:06:29 PM »
Yeah, a freeze feature would be good for memorizing the detail parameters of a rhythm or style as you change from one style to another.  I would just also ask that these parameters also be memorized when the keyboard is turned off, just as settings like the equalizer are memorized, so that you don't have to set up these parameters every time you turn on the keyboard.  With the fine-tuning that can be done with reverb, chorusing, and filtering on the styles, it would be a hassle to have to keep dialing in all those parameters each time you turn on the keyboard.

And yes, I know these settings can be saved to a registration, but then the registration also saves the keyboard's sounds and the style's tempo, making that particular registration more or less dedicated to a limited number of songs.  And with only 32 registrations, you can't have too many song-specific registrations on board at once (though you can load more as you need them through a USB flash drive).

Then again, I guess with a freeze function, you could have a registration with a style and your favorite style reverb, chorus, and filter settings.  You could call up that registration, hit the freeze button, and then change styles and registrations while still keeping those reverb, chorus, and filter settings.

I suppose with the current keyboard, you can come close to that by having some registrations dedicated to that purpose -- saved with styles that have your favorite style reverb, chorus, and filter settings.  Then the rest of your registrations would be saved without a style, so you could first choose the registration that selects your style and parameters, and then use the other registrations to change the sound without changing the style or its parameters.  This is fine if you use maybe 3 or 4 styles frequently, and therefore would dedicate 3 or 4 registrations to this purpose.  But much more than that really eats into the limited number of registrations available.
« Last Edit: August 11, 2019, 02:08:42 PM by SciNote »
Bob
Current: Yamaha PSR-E433, Roland GAIA SH-01, Casio CDP-200R, Casio MT-68 (wired to bass pedals)
Past: Yamaha PSR-520, PSR-510, PSR-500, DX-7, D-80 home organ, and a few Casios
 

Offline zaid alyassi

Re: Wish List -- PSR-E473 / PSR-EX400 / PSR-E560...
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2021, 10:54:33 PM »
any news about Yamaha psr-e473

Offline casiokid

Re: Wish List -- PSR-E473 / PSR-EX400 / PSR-E560...
« Reply #5 on: March 03, 2021, 04:54:27 PM »
L/R & R  1/4" speaker jacks, like on the E410 to attach  KS-SW100 sub woofer

Offline zaid alyassi

Re: Wish List -- PSR-E473 / PSR-EX400 / PSR-E560...
« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2021, 09:29:17 PM »
When will Yamaha PSR-E473 be released  in the market?
 

Offline rodrigo.b

Re: Wish List -- PSR-E473 / PSR-EX400 / PSR-E560...
« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2021, 10:06:19 PM »
Hi, my wishlist is very short:

1. Color Screen (like the PSR SX600)
2. MegaVoices
 

Offline HiHoSilver

Re: Wish List -- PSR-E473 / PSR-EX400 / PSR-E560...
« Reply #8 on: March 25, 2021, 10:29:36 PM »
My PSR-E473 wishlist, based on my PSR-E463 and comparing it to my old PSR-220 from the mid-to-late 1990s, would include (in no particular order):

  • Being able to disable vibrato on voices - for instance, if I want to play a chord with each note on a different instrument (either two voices using dual or any number of voices recorded one at a time), the way a real human ensemble would play it, vibrato is usually unwanted, but there's no control over this.  For instrumental chords, I'm pretty much stuck with having to use the pre-packaged ensemble voices, where every "instrument" in the ensemble plays all notes simultaneously.
  • More shortcuts to specific "functions" - I can go directly to the functions for dual or split voice, for instance, by pressing and holding the button, but there's no way to go directly to the main voice settings (not to pick the voice itself, but to adjust things like pan or attack), touch sensitivity, reverb type, etc.  The layout of my 220's limited options for this sort of thing was much better.
  • Better quality on some voices - many of the voices sound much more like the real instrument than my 20+ year old 220, and some, uh, still sound like a cheap keyboard.  I'm not asking for professional quality here, just not blatantly fake.
  • Better documentation - the manual's pages are half the size of my 220's manual, many things are missing (e.g. the voice list, which you have to download), it needs to be proofread, and it leaves lots of questions unanswered so you have to use your favourite search engine to try to find out what they mean by cool, sweet, KSP, velocity crossfade, etc.
 

Offline SciNote

Re: Wish List -- PSR-E473 / PSR-EX400 / PSR-E560...
« Reply #9 on: April 07, 2021, 12:24:43 PM »
The more that time goes by, the more that I think that the PSR-E473 is going to be little more than a PSR-E463 with S.Art Lite and * maybe * portamento.  And if portamento is offered, there's a good chance that it will be like it is in the PSR-I500 which -- based on the manual -- does not allow the portamento setting to be saved in a registration and requires menu-diving to switch it on and off, making it virtually unusable in a live performance situation.  Again, I'm going by the manual, as I have no direct experience with this keyboard -- If I am wrong, please let me know.

I wonder when Yamaha will even release the E473.  A Google search for "Yamaha PSR-E473" turns up little more than my own posts on this forum!  It's funny that companies like Apple and Samsung can make sure the latest version of their smartphones are released annually, like clockwork, but keyboards like this are now released at a glacial pace.
Bob
Current: Yamaha PSR-E433, Roland GAIA SH-01, Casio CDP-200R, Casio MT-68 (wired to bass pedals)
Past: Yamaha PSR-520, PSR-510, PSR-500, DX-7, D-80 home organ, and a few Casios
 

Offline vbdx66

Re: Wish List -- PSR-E473 / PSR-EX400 / PSR-E560...
« Reply #10 on: April 08, 2021, 07:26:12 AM »
Hi Bob,

I am sure that the E473 will eventually be released as it will fit neatly the gap between the E373 and the SX600.

The fact that it takes so long is probably due to the pandemic.

And the fact that it takes so long is not overtly negative. It might mean that Yamaha has some innovations in stock for the E473.

Maybe audio and MIDI Bluetooth connectivity?

I am sure more data will come out in the forthcoming months and you'll read something else than your own posts LoL  ;D

Regards,

Vinciane
Past keyboards: PSR E313, PSR E413, PSR E433, PSR S550, DGX 640, upright piano.
Now: DGX 650, Casio CT-X800.