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Offline Ingar

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #100 on: September 04, 2020, 07:24:08 PM »
Eileen, that is a great idea! To be able to delete onboard styles that we never use and put in new ones!
But we can do that allredy, in a way. Styles does not take up much space, and can be left ignored if you don`t use them, then you can put inn new style in user at your leisure. And more, if we decides to sell, the original styles should be intact.
Just my two cents ;D
 

Offline Fred Smith

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #101 on: September 05, 2020, 04:01:05 PM »
But we can do that allredy, in a way. Styles does not take up much space, and can be left ignored if you don`t use them, then you can put inn new style in user at your leisure. And more, if we decides to sell, the original styles should be intact.
Just my two cents ;D

We all know that we can put styles in the User drive (and they'd be in alphabetical order!). The discussion is changing the preset styles.

Actually, I'd be happy if preset styles were in alphabetical order, which is something we know Yamaha could do. Would make them much easier to find.

Cheers.
Fred
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Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #102 on: September 29, 2020, 07:13:48 PM »
SONG POSITIONS BOOTONS:

Since Yamaha rise song to 3MB now we need more "SONG POSITIONS markers"

It would be nice if Yamaha make in GENOS2 a minimum 8 or even better 12 of SONG POSITIONS markers:

Something like this:

SONG POSITIONS BOOTONS:  possibility to call positions trough registrations will be very  useful  in next update.

regards
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Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #103 on: October 26, 2020, 12:22:34 PM »
SONG POSITIONS BOOTONS:  possibility to call positions trough registrations will be very  useful  in next update.

regards

PART (VOICE/DRUM KIT)  and VOLUME change  for each MIDI Chanel possibility to memorize (REGISTRATIONS MEMORY)  and call when need. Same as style parts! This will  be a very helpful!

Thank you Yamaha
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Curent Instruments: GENOS the best of the best and sx900
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Offline vanzee

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #104 on: October 26, 2020, 03:05:14 PM »
Hello,
something else to add to the list:
it would be easier if one could too
operate the midi-player via the physical buttons
at the kbd. while working in the section "Midi Multi Recording".

Eg. : when you want to insert a different drum kit into a midi
and you can listen to the many options while playing the midi
(via mixing) one has to switch back each time at the end of the midi
to the start screen to play the midi again.
The same when you want to pause eg. during tracking on
the score screen, ....

Another:
the "Song Position markers" to be set in a midi file
in Tyros are operated by means of physical buttons on the kbd.
Very useful for learning difficult passages
via the midi score screen.
These buttons are no longer present in Genos.
However, the "markers" can be controlled via the "Song" screen,
but then one has to switch between "song" and "score" screen each time.
Not convenient.
Either back fitted with physical buttons,
or provide this "Markers" function in the "score" screen.
Regards
Eddy Vanzee
 

Offline ckobu

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #105 on: November 08, 2020, 11:52:04 AM »
Style Creator has Drum Setup, is excellently made and easy to handle.
The same should be done to edit the SONG.

Now we can only do this with the help of XGWorks and computers.  :(
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Offline valimaties

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #106 on: November 08, 2020, 11:59:21 AM »
Style Creator has Drum Edit, is excellently made and easy to handle.
...
https://youtu.be/dmNPgXeirVA?t=27

Yes @ckobu, indeed, but there are some problems with Drum Setup,
  • not every time will be saved in registrations (or it could be registrations bug)
  • limitation about how many Drum Kits will be visible in Drum Setup. (I really don't understand why this limitation)
  • sometime it crashes with a code for developers
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Offline ckobu

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #107 on: November 08, 2020, 12:17:06 PM »
That's right, I noticed the mistakes you mention and I hope so that the Yamaha team will correct them.
When I praised Drum Setup, I was thinking of the concept of how it was done.
Especially since until PSR S770 / 970 this did not exist at all. The top model Tyros5 does not have it.  :(
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Offline DrakeM

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #108 on: November 08, 2020, 12:30:51 PM »
I think it's time for a FIFTH main button to the keyboard. So many times I could use a fifth main for improving my arrangements. I know I could expand by using a registration and have on a few songs.

And perhaps with my next purchase when I have to go to using Registrations instead of the Music Finder this issue won't matter.

And I will be purchasing the the lighter SX series rather than a Genos.

 

Offline Dnj

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #109 on: November 08, 2020, 04:27:58 PM »
Redesign the playlist feature so it will list ALL SINGLE registration songs separately of all folders, Styles, Mp3's, Smf, etc,
all in a single alphabetical list to scroll thru ...

Add a 2" Larger all around TILT UP Display touch screen

ReDesign the overall size of the unit to make it a slimmer and smaller footprint.

REPLACE the VH2 vocal harmonizer and incorporate the TC Helicon VH in Genos..
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Offline DrakeM

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #110 on: November 08, 2020, 10:48:18 PM »
REPLACE the VH2 vocal harmonizer and incorporate the TC Helicon VH in Genos..

And Yamaha can increase the price for that GEM addition. ;)

Offline J. Larry

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #111 on: November 09, 2020, 01:58:30 AM »
Yes, I would agree with the suggestion to drop the size and slim-up the Genos.  As a senior, who totes his own gear, the size and weight of the Genos is what held me back.  Thatís why I opted for the SX 900.

Offline valimaties

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #112 on: November 09, 2020, 07:13:54 AM »
Redesign the playlist feature so it will list ALL SINGLE registration songs separately of all folders, Styles, Mp3's, Smf, etc,
all in a single alphabetical list to scroll thru ...

Playlist is good as it is right now. What is wrong now? Playlist is a shortcut to registration bank, which allows you to activate quickly and to auto-load some of screens, like Lyrics, Score, Text. It is the best way as it is right now. If you compare it with Korg's SongBook, these two are quite similar, making an analogy, SongBook store A REGISTRATION, Playlist store a Registration Bank. So it is powerful than Songbook!

Add a 2" Larger all around TILT UP Display touch screen

I agree (but only with tilt, Larger = is enough. Let's not make from our keyboards some television)!

ReDesign the overall size of the unit to make it a slimmer and smaller footprint.

That's why Yamaha built SX900/700, to have approximately the same functions as Genos, but to be smaller. For me, it's enough. (For Yamaha, too :) )

REPLACE the VH2 vocal harmonizer and incorporate the TC Helicon VH in Genos..

You will never see that, because Korg use TC Helicon. You will never see the same harmonizer on two brands. There are some contracts/agreements made, so ... :)

Regards,
Vali
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Offline Dnj

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #113 on: November 09, 2020, 12:46:20 PM »
And Yamaha can increase the price for that GEM addition. ;)

Drake the vocal tracking and directional dropouts on the VH2 is horrendous compared to Tc helicon.
If Yamaha cared about vocals they could improve is drastically for pro singers. This is why so many use an external TC VH unit with their Yamaha arrangers.  Take Care

Offline Genos!

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #114 on: November 09, 2020, 01:04:01 PM »
Drake the vocal tracking and directional dropouts on the VH2 is horrendous compared to TC Helicon.
If Yamaha cared about vocals they could improve is drastically for pro singers. This is why so many use an external TC VH unit with their Yamaha arrangers.  Take Care

I didn't know this about the VH2 in the Genos. Of course, I have never used the built-in VH2 once.

I've owned the Voicelive Rack since 2012 and haven't really used it probably as much as I should.  ;)
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Offline Toril S

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #115 on: November 09, 2020, 11:07:42 PM »
I want a 61 note, in silver😀
Toril S

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Offline Luluc

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #116 on: November 16, 2020, 07:02:57 PM »
Hi all,

Here is another feature that could be easily implemented in the next software update : Direct access to the end of the list.

In the Genos Style Creator/Edit List, when we have to edit an element at the end of the list ,we have to scoll the whole list to access it.
So, It would be smart to add an icon- for example a vertical arrow - to access directly the bottom of the list.

Luluc
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Offline Joe H

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #117 on: November 16, 2020, 10:41:57 PM »
... To bad Yamaha does not invest in an app that allows the Genos to integrate with DAW...
This could add so much to the Genos..

Lots of room for improvements of the current genos firmware..

The improvements I give priority to :

- more controls... for external instruments
- more assignable functions
- more arps, including an editor, or at least an option to load montage arps
- savable OTS sets
- better access to dsp management
- an expansion pack with synth sounds

BTW... the Easy Sounds Analog Xperience expansion pack has some very good synth sounds, you should check it out.
Music is the Universal Language!

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Offline Jan-Eve

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #118 on: November 17, 2020, 01:23:56 PM »
I agree with you Toril S. Silver and 61 keys on the Genos 2, and I will buy it...
Take care from Jan - Eve.

Online DerekA

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #119 on: November 17, 2020, 04:48:45 PM »
BTW... the Easy Sounds Analog Xperience expansion pack has some very good synth sounds, you should check it out.

Agree Joe - I have this one and am very fond of it
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Offline Sharon

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #120 on: November 17, 2020, 05:20:49 PM »
I apologise if this has already been mentioned, but as a totally blind player of Genos, I would like the voice controls to be completely accessible, not only half way there.  I would like to hear everything that appears on the display spoken out to me, not just some of the things.  This makes the Genos difficult for me to use at the moment.

Offline ugawoga

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #121 on: November 17, 2020, 10:07:13 PM »
Hi
I would like to see a 12 inch screen that can pop up and proper score reading which you can import  instead of bouncing balls. :)

Better DSP management like Joe states and all his other likes
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Offline ugawoga

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #122 on: November 17, 2020, 10:10:28 PM »
The improvements I give priority to :

- more controls... for external instruments
- more assignable functions
- more arps, including an editor, or at least an option to load montage arps
- savable OTS sets
- better access to dsp management
- an expansion pack with synth sounds

BTW... the Easy Sounds Analog Xperience expansion pack has some very good synth sounds, you should check it out.

Hi Joe

If you have a computer invest in Sample robot. Sky is the limit for synth sounds as you can sample any vst.
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Offline ugawoga

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #123 on: November 17, 2020, 10:12:59 PM »
I want a 61 note, in silver😀

Toril has acid fingers!!
I like black shiny things!!!! ;D
John likes sparkles!! :)


All the best
John
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Offline Toril S

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #124 on: November 18, 2020, 11:27:07 AM »
I am really an alian, hence the acid fingers😀😀😀
Toril S

Genos, Tyros 5, PSR S975, PSR 2100
and PSR-47.
Former keyboards: PSR-S970.

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Offline CamiloCross

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #125 on: November 18, 2020, 02:21:16 PM »
I don't know if it is already said, but I would like to have more channels for style creation (16 channels will be nice) and more insertion effects dedicated for styles. Now with midi 2.0 I think this could be possible. Creation of custom drums with Round-robin feature (just like Revo drums) is another thing I really wish. Custom art2 voices would be great too.
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Online DerekA

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #126 on: November 18, 2020, 02:44:23 PM »
and more insertion effects dedicated for styles.

You know that Genos has 8 DSP available for the style - one for each channel? A big improvement from T5 which had 3 DSP for the style.
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