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Offline metcam

Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« on: August 07, 2019, 10:22:28 AM »

HI everybody!

"GENOS2 "  probably will be lunched 2 years from now so probably 2021.


Please write here any your wish  and idea,sugestions.


As we know Yamaha read this forum and They already inplement a lot of wishes and ideas in past.

BEST REGARDS and Thank you YAMAHA.
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Offline metcam

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2019, 12:42:48 PM »
TERCA

Yamaha added to NEW SX-900/700  a Sub scale which is only HALF job done to have 100% perfect and accured "Terca"

To have Perfect options to have Terca this whats ned to be done in NEXT update for SX-900/700 and Next GENOS2:

1. Note shift to all individuals tones +/-12 separate for R1,R2,R3
2.Tuning scale individual for R1,R2,R3 (SUB scale in new SX-900/700)
3.Base note-which we already have
4. Posability to memorized in Reg.Memory all

Something as this picture show:
« Last Edit: August 07, 2019, 02:44:50 PM by metcam »
Curent Instruments: GENOS the best of the best
Previus instruments:PSR-A3000,PSR9000,Tyros2,Tyros3,TYROS5,psr2000,psr2100,psr1500,psr530,psr OR700,DX7,DX11,V50,DX21.
KORG:pa800,KORG PA-900,Triton Extreme,Triton rack,.KORG X3,Roland G600.Roland D20........
 

Offline ckobu

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2019, 12:34:17 PM »
Thanks metcam. Great theme and even better suggestion for "terce". Adjusting tones using halftones is very similar to the HARMONY we already have in Genos. This way they could do their "own Harmony Duet" that is not in the factory settings.

I have a proposal related to the Playlist view. I have over 600 playlists and it is hard to make quick selections at a live performance. For example, when I am at number 105, I have to click many times to get to 420. Choosing a number from a list with a Data Dial circle is not precise enough and is not practical. I suggest the following solution. It would be great if the Playlists main screen on the right hand side has dialing. (picture) So we could instantly pick up the Playlist number we need. List edit (Add Record) can be in the drop-down menu because we use it when we're not in a live performance situation.

This is my small suggestion and suggestion for improvement. I believe other members of the forum will be involved with their suggestions. I am sure that Yamaha, as it has done so far, will upgrade the new models with options that customers need.

Best regards, ckobu

Offline 3dc

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2019, 02:24:57 PM »
I really hope they put "Make a hit song for me" button.  ;D ;D
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Offline beykock

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2019, 06:00:42 PM »
The new Korg PA5X might be a very helpful and useful source of inspiration to make your Genos2 wish list. 🔔

But ... it might be possible the Genos2 will arrive earlier than the PA5X ... time will tell.

Babette
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Offline ckobu

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #5 on: August 10, 2019, 12:41:33 AM »
I really hope they put "Make a hit song for me" button.  ;D ;D

Good to introduce yourself and write "complete newbie in music scene";)
Everyone who has been following this forum for a long time knows that Yamaha is closely following everything written here. So it's funny when you say, "Make a hit song for me" button.

The Yamaha team has upgraded keyboards many times by reading suggestions from this forum. So thank you Yamaha. That's why we buy Yamaha, not Casio.   :P

Just a month ago, @valimates wanted to have a Tempo Reset function. And the SX900 came with that feature.  8)
Some time ago @metcam requested the  PORTAMENTO function. Miracles, Genos has just that function, it's just called MONO LEGATO. There are many examples of this, from the 76-key keyboard (Tyros5), touch screen or Joystick (Genos, SX).

Offline metcam

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2019, 10:43:01 AM »



The Yamaha team has upgraded keyboards many times by reading suggestions from this forum. So thank you Yamaha. That's why we buy Yamaha, not Casio.   :P

.


 BINGO!!!
Curent Instruments: GENOS the best of the best
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Offline EileenL

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2019, 11:34:03 AM »
Why on earth would a Korg PAX5 be mentioned on a Genos2 wish list. Have you got shares in Korg  Babette.

Offline beykock

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #8 on: August 10, 2019, 12:52:02 PM »
Hi Eileen :

Years ago Korg came with a touch screen and a joystick.
Even with a " tiltable " touch screen ...

In the past you NEVER liked arranger keyboards with touch screens. Remember ?

Apparently you changed your mind since Yamaha introduced their touch screen and their joystick ( instead of the
2 wheels ).🔔

It might be possible other Korg features will be installed ( like a " tiltable " touch screen e.g. ) in the next
 Yamaha arrangers, why not ?

Take care, Babette
« Last Edit: August 10, 2019, 12:56:42 PM by beykock »
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Offline metcam

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #9 on: August 10, 2019, 01:00:45 PM »

 STYLE CREATOR:

 We need OCTAVE  -2/+2 posability for all channels in style creator.

 We have now OCTAVE trough High Key/Note Limit which is slow and complicated for many people.




Regards
Curent Instruments: GENOS the best of the best
Previus instruments:PSR-A3000,PSR9000,Tyros2,Tyros3,TYROS5,psr2000,psr2100,psr1500,psr530,psr OR700,DX7,DX11,V50,DX21.
KORG:pa800,KORG PA-900,Triton Extreme,Triton rack,.KORG X3,Roland G600.Roland D20........
 

Offline EileenL

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #10 on: August 10, 2019, 01:39:49 PM »
Years ago touch screens were very small and I did not like the idea of one on my Yamaha. But the genos screen is quite large and works very well so had to change my mind as I wanted all the rest of the goodies that comes with it. I don't think there would be an advantage to having it tilt though.

Offline beykock

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #11 on: August 10, 2019, 03:46:13 PM »
Hi :

I should not be surprised the Yamaha touch screen will become tiltable in the near future. Never say never. We simply do not know ( yet ).

IMHO it might be useful if people want to play outside ?

Also another Korg feature ain't so bad : playing chords in intro's and endings. A nice feature, right ?

There is nothing better than the Yamaha Genos sound quality for the time being. Everybody does agree, I guess.

We recently have been told by a member called Qui, a Dutch Genos and PA4X owner and pro musician,  the sound of the latest Korg styles has been improved a lot.

One expects their sound quality might be much better in the near future ( PA5X ? ) than ever before. Just speculation or true ? Time will tell.

I think nobody will deny Korg are very serious competitors but up to now they do not produce plug-and-play arrangers like Yamaha.
It seems Korg players need a lot of time before they know all ins and outs of their arranger.

On the other hand all their updates and new styles are always free of charge.

Best regards, Babette
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Offline ckobu

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2019, 06:52:08 PM »
Babette, Eilen
Why do some topics completely lose their purpose?
It's simple, because the title of the topic does not read and follows its meaning.  ;)
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Offline soryt

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2019, 08:21:45 PM »
Wish list Genos
  • 4 Gb Flash mem ( öre more)
  • Oled screen ( very high def)
  • metal case finish, black
  • on board voice editor
    • new foot pedal like the Mfc10 and all the controls
    • smaller design
    • better I-pad integration, or android apps
    • better build quality
    • better Rotary effect with decent overdrive programmable
    • a decent replacement form YEM ( it’s terrible now)

    Soryt 😎🎹👌🏻

Offline beykock

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2019, 08:48:45 PM »
Hi Ckobu :

You are absolutely right. I fully agree.

Plse ask a moderator of this forum to remove my comments if you do not believe our main competitor might be a good source of inspiration to add some new features and/or improvements to the present Yamaha highend arranger.

Only a moderator can remove my comments.Not me, sorry.

Best wishes, Babette

« Last Edit: August 10, 2019, 08:52:23 PM by beykock »
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Offline EileenL

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2019, 11:57:14 PM »
Competitor keyboards should have no part in discussing what we want to see on the next update.
  Do not think Yamaha would want to hear about putting content on from them. We were asked what Yamaha additions we would like to see on the next flag ship. I would like to see Chord Looper and a little more memory.

Offline ekurburski

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2019, 02:49:04 AM »
I want integrated DAW ("Yamaha does own Cubase) with ability to add unlimited vsts.
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Offline metcam

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2019, 12:34:56 PM »
MIDI & STYLE play at same time:


Right now we have: MIDI play and style play at same time , MIDI stop style continue play, MIDI start again automaticly style STOP.

We need: MIDI play and style play at same time,MIDI stop style continue play,Midi start again style ""CONTINUE"" play.


Thank you Yamaha.
Curent Instruments: GENOS the best of the best
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Offline Enildo

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2019, 02:12:25 PM »
Years ago touch screens were very small and I did not like the idea of one on my Yamaha. But the genos screen is quite large and works very well so had to change my mind as I wanted all the rest of the goodies that comes with it. I don't think there would be an advantage to having it tilt though.

Hello Eileen

When yamaha launches the tiltable display you will agree and say it is good.

Enildo
When word fail, Music speaks!
 

Offline Enildo

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2019, 02:24:18 PM »
Competitor keyboards should have no part in discussing what we want to see on the next update.
  Do not think Yamaha would want to hear about putting content on from them. We were asked what Yamaha additions we would like to see on the next flag ship. I would like to see Chord Looper and a little more memory.

I think it's okay to cite model enhancements from other companies. The Joystick, chord looper and touch screen were launched by korg and yamaha had to surrender to these features otherwise it would be left behind in time. The forum is for yamaha keyboard discussions, of course, but there's no harm in quoting here Roland, Cassio, Korg, Ketron, etc. If we are only within our world and have no extra references, the tendency is to be left behind. Other companies also make improvements based on what yamaha owns.

Enildo
When word fail, Music speaks!
 

Offline EileenL

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2019, 03:16:26 PM »
At the moment Enildo I am quite happy with the screen being fixed. Whether it tilts or not you would still need shading in bright sunlight as we did with the Tyros 5.

Offline Enildo

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2019, 03:30:16 PM »
Eileen, our problem is that we are always running after the icing on the cake.
When word fail, Music speaks!
 

Offline metcam

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2019, 11:17:03 AM »
SONG POSITIONS BOOTONS:

Since Yamaha rise song to 3MB now we need more "SONG POSITIONS markers"

It would be nice if Yamaha make in GENOS2 a minimum 8 or even better 12 of SONG POSITIONS markers:

Something like this:
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Offline latingate

Controling the song/midi vs parts volume
« Reply #23 on: September 01, 2019, 06:53:05 PM »
Controling the balance between the volume of style/song and the parts played manually.
1) using the foot expression pedal
2) using a midi foot controller (with expression pedal)
3) using an on board fader
« Last Edit: September 01, 2019, 07:01:54 PM by latingate »
 

Offline latingate

PDF support
« Reply #24 on: September 01, 2019, 07:00:16 PM »
Possibility to connect pdf files in addition to txt files

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2019, 02:56:24 PM »
Hello everyone,

Many members here are not concerned but for the future Genos, i would like the screen of Genos offers two keyboard modes QZERTY and AZERTY so the user French or Belgian will be able to choose between these two modes. Windows does it well.
This could even be proposed in a future update of the current Genos.

Thank you in advance to Mr. Yamaha.

Best regards

Jean-Pierre 33
« Last Edit: September 02, 2019, 05:46:40 PM by Jean-Pierre 33 »
 

Offline metcam

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #26 on: September 06, 2019, 01:05:34 PM »
TERCA

Yamaha added to NEW SX-900/700  a Sub scale which is only HALF job done to have 100% perfect and accured "Terca"

To have Perfect options to have Terca this whats Ned to be done in NEXT update for SX-900/700 and Next GENOS2:

1. Note shift to all individuals tones +/-12 separate for R1,R2,R3
2.Tuning scale individual for R1,R2,R3 (SUB scale in new SX-900/700)
3.Base note-which we already have
4. Posability to memorized in Reg.Memory all

Something as this picture show:

A lot of my friend musicians agree with this topic that is key for GENOS2 or even GENOS1 with update or SX-900/700 to increase sale in Western Europe/Balkan and all around world …….
So really we expect Yamaha to go to next move...  :)

Thanks Yamaha.

Best regards to all musicians from everywere.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2019, 01:12:59 PM by metcam »
Curent Instruments: GENOS the best of the best
Previus instruments:PSR-A3000,PSR9000,Tyros2,Tyros3,TYROS5,psr2000,psr2100,psr1500,psr530,psr OR700,DX7,DX11,V50,DX21.
KORG:pa800,KORG PA-900,Triton Extreme,Triton rack,.KORG X3,Roland G600.Roland D20........
 

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #27 on: September 09, 2019, 08:28:12 PM »
I would like better compatibility with the MPE midi standard to use  ROLI RISE49 as a second keyboard, but directly in  Yamaha midi,  without the need of a computer.
I would look forward to more open system  for new sounds, vst-s ex like SWAM-like editable sax, flute etc.
More simple ways to use other controllers, like breath controller to  play Yamahas new, fully editable, built-in  5D instruments :-)
« Last Edit: September 09, 2019, 08:33:05 PM by metsasarv »
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Offline DerekA

Re: Genos successors wish LIST (GENOS2)
« Reply #28 on: September 10, 2019, 01:42:33 PM »
Full onboard sound editing, as is currently done in YEM, but using a UI as per the montage/modx.

The structure is the same - 8 elements per voice/sound/part - it would relatively easy I reckon and be a strong feature.
Tyros5
 

Offline ckobu

Dial up - USER setting
« Reply #29 on: September 11, 2019, 12:03:08 PM »
When there is no function selected and when we turn the Dial up wheel, nothing happens. It would be useful if we could select one function that would be the basis for Dial up. I would definitely choose Tempo because I use it most often. If you then manually select another function such as sound, rhythm or volume, Dial up will change that value.
I believe that this option would not be a problem to incorporate into an existing OS in Genos.