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Offline Francesco Massa

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #50 on: August 02, 2019, 09:15:39 AM »
It HAS the Kino Strings :-)

greetings frank
Attenction, Frank... NO KINO STRINGS! Read the data list: there are Seattle strings only, that are the same of S975 called Real strings. In fact, in Genos you have both Kino strings and Seattle strings. We can't create disinformation I think.

Francesco
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Offline rgw

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #51 on: August 02, 2019, 10:49:27 AM »
Where has the Ballad Style disappeared to?

 

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #52 on: August 02, 2019, 10:57:10 AM »
Where has the Ballad Style disappeared to?

The Ballad styles have mainly been split into the Pop&Rock or Dance categories. They are all there. You can view the data list online that tells you what's in the categories here:

https://europe.yamaha.com/files/download/other_assets/3/1279213/psrsx900_sx700_en_dl_a0.pdf
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Offline Robert van Weersch

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #53 on: August 02, 2019, 10:59:49 AM »
Starting from page 42  8)
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Offline vbdx66

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #54 on: August 02, 2019, 11:34:38 AM »
It HAS the Kino Strings :-)

greetings frank
Hi Frank,

Could you please elaborate? They dont appear as such in the data list. Are they there but under another label maybe?

Thanks,

Vinciane
Past keyboards: PSR E313, PSR E413, PSR E433, PSR S550, DGX 640, upright piano.
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Offline Francesco Massa

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #55 on: August 02, 2019, 12:43:20 PM »
Hi Frank,

Could you please elaborate? They dont appear as such in the data list. Are they there but under another label maybe?

Thanks,

Vinciane

Hi Vinciane,
SX700 and SX900 don't have the Kino strings.
Seattle strings and Kino strings are totally different in sampling and sound.
Seattle strings and Real strings are the same thing, so there is basically no news on Strings section except for soloists from Tyros5 (SX900 only). But Seattle/Real strings was even on Tyros4!

These keyboards also don't really have Revo drums, but (as Yamaha says...) "...new drums DERIVED from the Revo! Drums of Genos...". This means that there are new drum kits with same samples of Revo ones, but without the wave-cycling (= the real Revo technology).

Francesco
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Offline Francesco Massa

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #56 on: August 02, 2019, 01:01:56 PM »
They are starting to pop up on the websites of the larger stores now. Prices in Holland vary from 2.199,- to 2.356,-. That is about 225 to 400 more than the S975, am I right? If it goes anything like the pricing of the Genos at it's introduction, it pays off to wait a couple of months for the initial prices to go down about 10%. A "cooling-off period" of a few months also helps to be able to make a more rational decision about the purchase, instead of going along with the hype of a new product  ;). Meanwhile S975 is now priced at 1.625,-

I wonder if a PSR SX900 will be an upgrade to my Tyros 4. It would give me some of the newer voices and DSP's, new styles and drumkits. But I would definitly have to try one first to see if the keybed is any good if you are used to the Tyros FSX keybed, which I like a lot.

Is anyone else also considering the PSR SX900 as a replacement for their Tyros 4 or 5?

Hi Tom,
for me it's a small but good upgrade from Tyros4 (sacrificing SA2 voices), but not for Tyros5, with which it's very similar overall, lacking SA2 and Ensemble voices.

Francesco
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Online ckobu

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #57 on: August 02, 2019, 02:10:00 PM »
Differences between sx700 and sx900.

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Offline Robert van Weersch

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #58 on: August 02, 2019, 02:12:15 PM »
You forgot to mark the SA voices ;)
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Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #59 on: August 02, 2019, 02:19:51 PM »
There's also nearly 1000 difference between the two models as well !!! :o
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Online ckobu

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #60 on: August 02, 2019, 02:21:02 PM »
You forgot to mark the SA voices ;)

You are right, corrected  ;)
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Offline PSR-USR-IND

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #61 on: August 02, 2019, 04:19:44 PM »
This keyboard carry all TYROS5 new voice including all Choir voices. A great disappointment SuperArticulation2 voices still not included in PSR models. But some new GENOS voices and Drumkits are included.
YAMAHA should include S.Art2 voices in next PSR midrange mode.
Joy Stick and Touch Screen and many new features in this new model is much appreciated. H
Onacimus Sahayam
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Offline Enildo

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #62 on: August 02, 2019, 04:55:58 PM »
Can anyone explain what these "+ 10W" are in amplifiers?

Enildo
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Offline rgw

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #63 on: August 02, 2019, 04:59:53 PM »
Hi Onacimus,

Are you saying the Strings are more akin to on the Tyro5 than those on the PSR S975?

Richard.
 

Offline rgw

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #64 on: August 02, 2019, 05:03:03 PM »
Hello Danster72 and Robert,

Thank you for pointing out where the Ballad Styles are on the SX900.

Best wishes,
Richard.
 

Offline Jay B.

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #65 on: August 02, 2019, 05:04:28 PM »
@ Enildo,
I believe it means that the speakers are bi-amped, in other words, having separate amplifiers for each speaker driver or component. In this case, the 10W would be for Mid and High Frequency and the 15W or watts for the 5" or Lower Frequencies.

Jay B.
 

Offline Mjm

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #66 on: August 02, 2019, 05:27:40 PM »
It HAS the Kino Strings :-)

greetings frank
Hi Frank, 
I don't see Kino strings in the Data List. Where did you see them? Thanks.

Mark


Strings - SeattleStrings 8 33 50 S.Art!
SeattleClassical 8 36 49 S.Art!
TheatreStrings 8 37 49 S.Art!
SeattleLushStrings 8 41 49 S.Art!
SeattleSlowStrings 8 35 50 S.Art!
Orchestral1stViolin 8 33 44 S.Art!
Orchestral2ndViolin 8 33 45 S.Art!
OrchestralViola 8 33 46 S.Art!
OrchestralCello 8 33 47 S.Art!
PizzicatoStrings 0 113 46 Live!
SeattleWarm 8 39 49 S.Art!
SeattleRomance 8 43 50 S.Art!
SeattleChamber 8 42 49 S.Art!
SeattleStringsPad 8 43 49 S.Art!
SeattleTremolo 104 0 45 Live!
Seattle1stViolins 8 32 44 S.Art!
Seattle2ndViolins 8 32 45 S.Art!
SeattleViolas 8 32 46 S.Art!
SeattleCellos 8 32 47 S.Art!
SeattleBasses 8 32 48 S.Art!
ConcertStrings 8 32 50 S.Art!
StudioStrings 8 32 49 S.Art!
BalladStrings 8 34 50 S.Art!
BigStrings 8 40 49 S.Art!
SeattleQuartet 8 34 48 S.Art!
Spiccato 8 33 49 S.Art!
SeattleSpiccato 104 6 49 Live!
SeattleStrings sfz 104 1 45 Live!
PizzicatoGlocken 0 115 46 Live!
TheatreOrchestra 104 1 50 Regular
DiscoStrings1 0 123 50 Live!
DiscoStrings2 0 124 50 Live!
SynthStrings1 0 112 51 Regular
SynthStrings2 0 113 51 Regular
OberStrings 0 113 52 Regular
Classic1stVns 8 34 44 S.Art!
Classic2ndVns 8 34 45 S.Art!
ClassicViolas 8 34 46 S.Art!
ClassicCellos 8 34 47 S.Art!
OrchestralHarp 104 1 47 Regular
Watariyat 0 125 49 Regular
Mandolin 0 114 26 Sweet!
Oud 0 113 106 Regular
Banjo1 104 0 106 Regular
Banjo2 0 112 106 Regular
Sitar1 104 0 105 Regular
Sitar2 0 113 105 Regular
Zither1 104 1 16 Regular
Zither2 104 0 16 Regular
MellowHarp 104 0 47 Regular
ErHu 0 113 111 Regular
PiPa 0 119 106 Regular
Shamisen 0 112 107 Regular
Koto 0 112 108 Regular
Kanoun 0 113 108 Regular
Hackbrett1 104 2 47 Regular
Hackbrett2 0 113 47 Regular
Brass - BrightTrumpet 8 32 
 

Offline Enildo

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #67 on: August 02, 2019, 05:34:46 PM »
@ Enildo,
I believe it means that the speakers are bi-amped, in other words, having separate amplifiers for each speaker driver or component. In this case, the 10W would be for Mid and High Frequency and the 15W or watts for the 5" or Lower Frequencies.

Jay B.

Thanks Jay, good explanation!

Enildo
When word fail, Music speaks!
 

Offline marius9

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #68 on: August 02, 2019, 08:44:05 PM »
Great news from Yamaha! SX-700 and SX-S900 have BIG improvements in comparison with their predecesors.
The internal memory is not in MB anymore (and it shouldn't have been for a few years), we have a touch screen now, asignable buttons, different keyboard bed and build materials, wireless (BT) and so much more. Almost there (meaning that we will have to get additional firmware updates with even more features and another BIG update for the Yamaha Expansion Manager software that needs to come until the keyboards will be in stores; not the last YEM update, but another with all the requested features).

Now, probably the competition will just release a software update to beat the Expansion memory levels.

But, for now, what we see on the demos on YouTube, we like! GREAT! Great sound indeed and great keyboards will be! Good job Yamaha (but we wait for YEM support also)!
 

Offline panos

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #69 on: August 03, 2019, 05:09:11 AM »
Hi there,
Don't know anything about technical stuff and how all those different kind of voices with the exclamation mark "!" are created and why they sound as they do,
just wondering if a s.Art2! voice needs aftertouch and a better keybed in order to sound good or a keyboard needs a better... "engine" to produce such a sound or something.

Offline Tom NL

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #70 on: August 03, 2019, 08:00:26 AM »
Hi Tom,
for me it's a small but good upgrade from Tyros4 (sacrificing SA2 voices), but not for Tyros5, with which it's very similar overall, lacking SA2 and Ensemble voices.

Francesco

Thank you Francesco and Robert van Weersch for sharing your thoughts. I think the days when very big steps were made in sound quality and technology are over. There has been more evolution than revolution for almost 10 years. However, the expectations for a new model are sometimes still very high. I think that also explains the sometimes lukewarm reception of new keyboards.

I also wonder if this new keyboard offers better sounds than my Tyros 4 from 6 years ago. If I am honest to myself I actually don't think so!
 

Offline Enildo

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #71 on: August 03, 2019, 12:43:10 PM »
Thank you Francesco and Robert van Weersch for sharing your thoughts. I think the days when very big steps were made in sound quality and technology are over. There has been more evolution than revolution for almost 10 years. However, the expectations for a new model are sometimes still very high. I think that also explains the sometimes lukewarm reception of new keyboards.

I also wonder if this new keyboard offers better sounds than my Tyros 4 from 6 years ago. If I am honest to myself I actually don't think so!

Hello Tom!

Genos will surely deliver better sound and features than your Tyros 4 from 6 years ago as it is your replacement. The sx900 is a replacement for the PSR line, so it is replacing the s970 / 975. Of course because it's more modern, some features like Chord Looper, Playlist, Assignable Buttons, go ahead, but comparisons have to be within each category. Of course, there will come a time when the lower lines will be higher than the highest, by the natural evolution of things. I know that Tyros' sound engine is much better than PSRs, but due to other items, there are a lot of people trading their Tyros for PSRs and seeing advantages in this exchange.

My sincere greetings,

Enildo
When word fail, Music speaks!
 

Offline rgw

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #72 on: August 03, 2019, 05:33:59 PM »
Hi Frank,

The SX900 Data List does NOT show Kino Strings I'm afraid.

Best wishes.
Richard.

Offline arvacon

Re: Enjoy the new PSR SX900/700
« Reply #73 on: August 08, 2019, 02:06:27 AM »
Regarding the T4 versus ths SX900. The SX900 has some great new features, some of which also can be found on the Genos. But as you already stated yourself, it lacks the FSX keybed.


The SX900 and SX700 may have not the FSX keybed of Genos and Tyros, but it seems they will have something similar in action, that they call it FSB.
It seems to me that this will be a version of the same keybed as FSX, but with lack of aftertouch.
« Last Edit: August 08, 2019, 02:09:12 AM by arvacon »