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Offline Robert van Weersch

Problems with banned IP
« on: November 06, 2018, 07:31:28 AM »
Last weekend, I was in a very large hotel for a convention. For some reason, the IP address of the hotel is on the blacklist of this forum, which is not convenient, to say the least (blacklisting is sooo 2009... there are better methods nowadays). Luckily, I have a workaround by using the wifi hotspot of my phone. But that also didn't work: I still got the message that I was banned for posting porn :)

Some investigation revealed that the forum puts a local cookie in my browser which remembers the "banned state" of the previous IP. That is not correct, of course, because now I still couldn't use the forum, despite the fact that I was on a "correct" IP. The blacklist should be checked realtime, and not set and read a cookie in the browser. I'm an IT guy, so I was able to figure this out myself and selectively remove all PSR cookies, and login again, but I can imagine that not everyone has this kind of knowledge.

Please look into this feature of the forum and see if it is possible to prevent it from writing the banned status in a cookie.
« Last Edit: November 06, 2018, 07:33:11 AM by Robert van Weersch »
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Offline beykock

Re: Problems with banned IP
« Reply #1 on: November 06, 2018, 07:51:58 AM »
Talking about banning ...

IMHO I think it is time to review that black list.

We have lost good and very interesting members in the past.

Their contributions have brought a lot of knowledge not only misery.

Of course they have made mistakes.

Like Shakespeare said : " the good is oft interred with their bones ".

Let us open our hearts and forgive their sins.
Give them a second chance to come back to the fold where they belong.

It might be a " win-win situation ". Who knows.

Cheers, Babette
« Last Edit: November 06, 2018, 08:14:28 AM by beykock »
 

Offline alanclare

Re: Problems with banned IP
« Reply #2 on: November 06, 2018, 08:01:50 AM »

Like Shakespeare said : " the good is often entered with their bones ".


He actually said, “The evil that men do lives after them; the good is oft interred with their bones.”

Alan
 
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Offline beykock

Re: Problems with banned IP
« Reply #3 on: November 06, 2018, 08:37:07 AM »
Hi Alan,

You are absolutely right.
Sorry for my mistake.
Correction has been made.😉

I may hope my message will be heard and supported though.
We all make mistakes and love to be forgiven, I guess.

Babette
 
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Offline Fred Smith

Re: Problems with banned IP
« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2018, 09:25:51 AM »
Last weekend, I was in a very large hotel for a convention. For some reason, the IP address of the hotel is on the blacklist of this forum, which is not convenient, to say the least (blacklisting is sooo 2009... there are better methods nowadays). Luckily, I have a workaround by using the wifi hotspot of my phone. But that also didn't work: I still got the message that I was banned for posting porn :)

Some investigation revealed that the forum puts a local cookie in my browser which remembers the "banned state" of the previous IP. That is not correct, of course, because now I still couldn't use the forum, despite the fact that I was on a "correct" IP. The blacklist should be checked realtime, and not set and read a cookie in the browser. I'm an IT guy, so I was able to figure this out myself and selectively remove all PSR cookies, and login again, but I can imagine that not everyone has this kind of knowledge.

Please look into this feature of the forum and see if it is possible to prevent it from writing the banned status in a cookie.

Robert,

This forum is admirably free of spam posts. And it takes a fair amount of work on the part of a few moderators to keep it that way.

If you feel there’s a better way to solve the problem, then you should volunteer to be part of the group which controls the issue.

Cheers,
Fred
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Offline Robert van Weersch

Re: Problems with banned IP
« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2018, 09:52:31 AM »
Robert,

This forum is admirably free of spam posts. And it takes a fair amount of work on the part of a few moderators to keep it that way.

If you feel there’s a better way to solve the problem, then you should volunteer to be part of the group which controls the issue.

Cheers,
Fred
Fred, thanks for your reply. There are two problems:
  • The blacklist logic sets a "banned" status in the user's local browser cookie. That is incorrect behaviour for software and for me, as a (professional) software engineer and tester, would be reason to raise a bug/ticket with the maker of the forum software, Simple Machines.
  • Blacklists are no real option when trying to protect a website or forum. People can use mobile connections, with shifting IP adresses, VPN's, IP spoofing etc. In general, a fixed IP blacklist will affect more innocent people than the actual culprits. Modern forum software has spam detection rules which act on message content and dynamic online blacklists like SORBS. I'm not familiar with Simple Machines, so I don't know if it supports this.
Regarding volenteering, normally I would like to do that, but a lack of time prevents me from engaging in a role of moderator/administrator again. I've been the owner and admin of quite some large forums (in the Netherlands) in the past, so I know the enormous amount of time it takes to keep a thriving community free from 'garbage'. I'm just trying to point out that some things could be better implemented.
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Offline Bill Grosse

Re: Problems with banned IP
« Reply #6 on: November 06, 2018, 02:43:51 PM »
Robert,

This problem, as reported by you, arises once or twice a year at most.
As a previous and long time moderator of this forum, I think things are fine just as they are.
You seem to have found a work around, seeing as you are able to post this thread here.
You can register here as a different person using a different IP to solve your problem.
To be sure, you will lose all your record counting of the past, if that is important.

BillG
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Offline Joe H

Re: Problems with banned IP
« Reply #7 on: November 06, 2018, 04:24:55 PM »
Bill,

Are you the only member with 6 stars?  What do these stars represent anyway?  Recently the squares became stars of differing types and colors. Someone asked about this and but didn't get an answer to his question.

 ???

Joe H
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Re: Problems with banned IP
« Reply #8 on: November 06, 2018, 07:08:42 PM »
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