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Offline Toplayer2

Best Piano Expansion Pack?
« on: June 01, 2018, 01:06:55 AM »
I am disappointed with the grand piano sounds in Genos.  While slightly better than those in the T5, to my ears the CFX and CF in the CP4 are much better. Has anyone discovered an exceptional 3rd party piano expansion for Genos?

Thanks,
Joe
« Last Edit: June 01, 2018, 01:08:28 AM by Toplayer2 »
Yamaha Genos  |  Yamaha CP4  |  Hauptwerk / Paramount  |  Band-In-A-Box Audiophile Edition
 

Offline DerekA

Re: Best Piano Expansion Pack?
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2018, 01:57:50 AM »
I have been considering the MidiPirates Pop Upright Piano pack for T5. It's a bit of an expensive gamble at £120 though. Has anyone tried that one?
Tyros5
 

Offline EileenL

Re: Best Piano Expansion Pack?
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2018, 04:45:35 AM »
Try tweaking in voice set until you get nearer to what you prefer then save as a user voice.

Re: Best Piano Expansion Pack?
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2018, 08:12:50 AM »
Hello Joe,

I was also a bit disappointed in the pianos when I first got the Genos, but I am still exploring all the possibilities of the keyboard and tonight to my delight, I found quite a few of my favourite pianos and strings, from previous Tyros keyboards in "The  Classics" at the bottom of the Styles section, plus I also found the 'Legacy' which is in the Multipad section.  Hope this helps.

Audrey Turner

 

Offline ugawoga

Re: Best Piano Expansion Pack?
« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2018, 06:31:52 AM »
Hi

I would love to see Yamaha make a book on sound tweaks giving numbers etc and explanations for Genos sounds.
I would think It would sell well.

Maybe a sound creation section on this site.

John
« Last Edit: June 05, 2018, 06:33:40 AM by ugawoga »
 

Re: Best Piano Expansion Pack?
« Reply #5 on: June 05, 2018, 08:21:51 AM »
I am disappointed with the grand piano sounds in Genos.  While slightly better than those in the T5, to my ears the CFX and CF in the CP4 are much better. Has anyone discovered an exceptional 3rd party piano expansion for Genos?

Thanks,
Joe


If you are not satisfied with stock Piano in Genos, please listen and try my Pack Piano, I made a short video clip below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LxVRbC76yQ
Thanks!


Tyros 5 + Genos + Krome 73
 

Offline DerekA

Re: Best Piano Expansion Pack?
« Reply #6 on: June 05, 2018, 09:05:22 PM »
Sounds good ... is this using expansion wave samples or voices using the Genos internal waves? If it's expansion waves, how can I get a copy to try?
Tyros5
 

Offline zionip

Re: Best Piano Expansion Pack?
« Reply #7 on: June 05, 2018, 09:12:56 PM »
Sounds good ... is this using expansion wave samples or voices using the Genos internal waves? If it's expansion waves, how can I get a copy to try?

Hi Derek,

According to Snicker740's following post, you can email him to acquire the expansion pack:
https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,43379.msg345836.html#msg345836
"You will have it like what you have seen and heard. Please email me at: thangstudio@gmail.com"

Thanks,
Paul
 

Offline keynote

Re: Best Piano Expansion Pack?
« Reply #8 on: June 05, 2018, 09:34:49 PM »
As a comparison here is the Genos internal C7 Grand Piano. I'm not sure if it has been tweaked or not but it's definitely a superb piano sound nonetheless. It certainly shows you the quality of the Genos acoustic piano(s) especially when using proper EQ settings and other adjustments available on the Genos itself including voice editing if necessary.

Genos C7 Grand Piano Demo

Mike

Offline DerekA

Re: Best Piano Expansion Pack?
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2018, 09:54:52 PM »
Thank you Paul.
Tyros5
 

Offline Toplayer2

Re: Best Piano Expansion Pack?
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2018, 02:33:19 AM »

If you are not satisfied with stock Piano in Genos, please listen and try my Pack Piano, I made a short video clip below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LxVRbC76yQ
Thanks!

Thanks. Snicker740! I just emailed a request to you for the Ivory II. I look forward to trying it.

Joe
Yamaha Genos  |  Yamaha CP4  |  Hauptwerk / Paramount  |  Band-In-A-Box Audiophile Edition
 

Online panos

Re: Best Piano Expansion Pack?
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2018, 03:39:26 AM »
The pack from Yamhamusicsoft Derka is referring to:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wo-EDeRHN14
At the first demo he hardly releases the keys.
If you could play several songs this way you can call your self "synthesia robot player"  :)
Play exactly what he plays,the way he does and maybe your edited piano sounds are not so different.

In my opinion,
If arranger keyboards could play better piano sounds without using all their memory capacity,
then they just would be in the preset section of the Genos,the T5,or the PA4x...
Not to mention there must be a reason for keyboards to have semi weighted keys,
while digital pianos have hammer action keys   
and pianos have progressive hammer-action keys
and I guess is got something to do with the final result that all instruments trying to achieve: the sound.

Offline mikf

Re: Best Piano Expansion Pack?
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2018, 04:25:22 PM »
Cost and overall weight of the keyboard are big factors for manufacturers in selecting the key action. Semi weighted is a compromise, which keeps these reasonable. 
Mike
 

Offline Toplayer2

Re: Best Piano Expansion Pack?
« Reply #13 on: June 19, 2018, 01:41:29 AM »
I ordered Snicker740’s piano expansion pack after testing the trial version (which disables a few notes).  The Ivory II (which I believe is the Steinway D) and Yamaha C7 grand pianos are both very good sounding. They are almost up to the standard of the Yamaha CP4 stage piano and both are more appealing to my ears than the Genos CFX and C7 which sound bright and thin by comparison.

The two included e-pianos are quite nice as well.  The price is $50 US.

Joe
Yamaha Genos  |  Yamaha CP4  |  Hauptwerk / Paramount  |  Band-In-A-Box Audiophile Edition
 

Offline Toplayer2

Re: Best Piano Expansion Pack?
« Reply #14 on: June 19, 2018, 07:34:50 AM »
A close friend who also happens to be an official “Steinway Artist” (and the person who recorded the demo of my free theatre organ expansion pack for Genos) just alerted me to a new piano sample set, the 1955 Walker Steinway produced by Embertone.  Based on the demo recording, this is by far the best sampled piano sound I have ever heard.  The “Lite” version (if you wanna call 7 GB ‘lite’) is only $39, a rediculously low price.  The full version (200 GB) is $175.  You can find it using Google.

Joe
Yamaha Genos  |  Yamaha CP4  |  Hauptwerk / Paramount  |  Band-In-A-Box Audiophile Edition
 

Re: Best Piano Expansion Pack?
« Reply #15 on: June 19, 2018, 08:00:20 AM »
Thanks Joe. Wish you happy moments with the new piano.
Tyros 5 + Genos + Krome 73
 

Offline keynote

Re: Best Piano Expansion Pack?
« Reply #16 on: June 19, 2018, 08:39:25 PM »
 

Free Trial Piano Pack for Genos
« Reply #17 on: June 21, 2018, 03:17:23 PM »
I am ready to provide a trial installation package for Genos.
This is a PPI file so every Genos owner can try it.
Includes Trial Piano pack and Fully Drum Pack

Download: http://www.mediafire.com/file/nta404730ycn4pt/Genos_Piano_Drum+Trial.rar

Enjoy it, and contact me if you like it.
Best regards!
Tyros 5 + Genos + Krome 73