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Offline Tonny

Multipads keep going after registration step forward
« on: February 15, 2018, 09:59:35 PM »
I have a registration bank for a song with a number of registrations in it for intro, verse, etc. And I use the registration sequence to forward through the registrations while playing. Each registration has a different multipad stored in it. When I step forward in the registration sequence, the new multipad starts (which is good) but the multipad from the previous step does not stop ! So then I have 2 separate multipads playing, which was not what I wanted.

How do I make the "old" multipad stop when I switch to the next step in my registration bank? I already looked at the Freeze function, but that was correctly already switched off. Any ideas how to solve this?

Thanks in advance ! Tonny
 

Offline EileenL

Re: Multipads keep going after registration step forward
« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2018, 10:46:32 PM »
You have to switch it off by hand.Hold down the Stop button and press the one you want to stop.

Offline Dromeus

Re: Multipads keep going after registration step forward
« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2018, 11:16:44 PM »
Hi Tonny

Unfortunatly Yamaha refuses to implement a SYNC STOP MULTIPAD function to be stored in a registration. This has been requested since the Tyros 3, when the SYNC START was implemented for Multi-Pads. Though it is obvious that this would be very useful, Yamaha does not listen (again).

Clearly, switching by hand is not a valid option in your case. There's a little trick to achieve what you after. To stop a Multi-Pad by registration, it must load a new Multi-Pad bank, that contains a one-shot Multi-Pad with a single note having velocity = 0 (not sounding). You may download this StopPad:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cad2jrnu543vngp/StopPad.zip?dl=0

which may be used to stop any of the four Multi-Pads. If you want to stop one and start another, just assemble the Multi-Pads as needed, e.g.

Multi-Pad bank A: Sync Start Multi-Pad 1 (your first loop);  this is stored in Reg1
Multi-Pad bank B: Sync Start Multi-Pad 1 (containing a copy of the StopPad) , Sync Start Multipad 2 (your second loop);  this is stored in Reg2

Hope you get the idea, just ask, if it is not clear.


Regards, Michael
 
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Offline Fred Smith

Re: Multipads keep going after registration step forward
« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2018, 11:37:15 PM »
I have a registration bank for a song with a number of registrations in it for intro, verse, etc. And I use the registration sequence to forward through the registrations while playing. Each registration has a different multipad stored in it. When I step forward in the registration sequence, the new multipad starts (which is good) but the multipad from the previous step does not stop ! So then I have 2 separate multipads playing, which was not what I wanted.

How do I make the "old" multipad stop when I switch to the next step in my registration bank? I already looked at the Freeze function, but that was correctly already switched off. Any ideas how to solve this?

Thanks in advance ! Tonny

First, this is a feature, not a bug. There are lots of times I want a pad to continue through a registration change.

The easy solution to your problem is to use the same pad (eg, mp1) for both registrations. Then the old pad will stop, and the new pad will start.

If this is not feasible in your situation for whatever reason, then you do what Dromeus suggests — load a pad which does nothing. You can create your own easily, or downloads one of the many pads others have created.

Fred
Fred Smith,
Saskatoon, SK
Sun Lakes, AZ
Genos, Bose L1 compacts, Finale 2015
Check out my Registration Lessons
 

Offline Joe H

Re: Multipads keep going after registration step forward
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2018, 11:59:14 PM »
Tonny,

Download my Multli Pad article (see link below in my signature).  The is a Pad Stopper file is included and a description on how to use the file as well as demo registrations.

Joe H
Music is the Universal Language!

My Article: Using Multi Pads in registrations. Download Regs, Styles & MPs:  http://psrtutorial.com/music/articles/dancemusic.html
 

Offline AlBags

Re: Multipads keep going after registration step forward
« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2018, 11:42:06 PM »

Yes ..

I was using the SkyPop styles with changing registrations also triggering DIFFERENT multipads.
The registrations would not store properly ... In fact on one occasion .. all multipads were flashing on their own with no sound .

Maybe they will see reason and introduce as registration capable control, as playing fast club stuff does not allow time to look at/select off, then press another button, then press another to start a new pad .. ludicrous!  👍😂
Ok if youre playing Old Lang Syne, but not Coldplay Club!  🎹💨

Al.

😊  I started out with nothing .. and I've got most of it left!  😊

🎹 Tyros 5-76,  now the brilliant Genos 🎹
Genelec 8030C Studio Monitors on K&M stands
K&M Spider Pro Stand, K&M Accessories. I love K&M!
 

Offline Fred Smith

Re: Multipads keep going after registration step forward
« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2018, 11:47:18 PM »
Registrations will do what you want, Al. You need only decide you’d prefer a solution to complaining.

Fred
Fred Smith,
Saskatoon, SK
Sun Lakes, AZ
Genos, Bose L1 compacts, Finale 2015
Check out my Registration Lessons
 

Offline Joe H

Re: Multipads keep going after registration step forward
« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2018, 01:21:31 AM »
Yes ..

I was using the SkyPop styles with changing registrations also triggering DIFFERENT multipads.
The registrations would not store properly ... In fact on one occasion .. all multipads were flashing on their own with no sound .

Maybe they will see reason and introduce as registration capable control, as playing fast club stuff does not allow time to look at/select off, then press another button, then press another to start a new pad .. ludicrous! 
Ok if youre playing Old Lang Syne, but not Coldplay Club! 

Al.

Don't find fault with the keyboard... "operator error" is the problem in your case.

 ;)

Joe H
Music is the Universal Language!

My Article: Using Multi Pads in registrations. Download Regs, Styles & MPs:  http://psrtutorial.com/music/articles/dancemusic.html
 

Offline AlBags

Re: Multipads keep going after registration step forward
« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2018, 02:04:46 AM »

Well, NO guys ...

I was not 'complaining' and if I wanted to, it would be to Yamaha directly, not here.

The step forward or registration change will not store a change in Multipad settings properly. Others have brought this up. Eileen was kind enough to state they have to be stopped first, then another started.

Unless Yamaha change the design and add to the Registration system, we work around. In the interim, we discuss
ways around it, like the Pad Stopper, maybe.

Cheers ...
Al.
😊  I started out with nothing .. and I've got most of it left!  😊

🎹 Tyros 5-76,  now the brilliant Genos 🎹
Genelec 8030C Studio Monitors on K&M stands
K&M Spider Pro Stand, K&M Accessories. I love K&M!