Author Topic: Reference manual  (Read 1246 times)

0 Members and 2 Guests are viewing this topic.

Reference manual
« on: October 11, 2017, 05:17:53 AM »
Hi folks,  :)  I’ve downloaded and been reading the owners manual but can’t find the reference manual on the Yamaha website. Does anyone know if it is available anywhere to read yet please?
« Last Edit: October 11, 2017, 05:28:47 AM by organaut »
 

Offline voodoo

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #1 on: October 11, 2017, 05:31:55 AM »
We have to wait until November.
Yamaha PSR-S970 (sold)
Yamaha Genos (ordered)
Nord Electro 5D
 
The following users thanked this post: organaut

Offline EileenL

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #2 on: October 11, 2017, 05:56:18 AM »
It will probably come out with the new YEM and other bits and bobs.
 
The following users thanked this post: organaut

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #3 on: October 11, 2017, 06:04:49 AM »

There is an early version of the Genos reference manual floating around.
I have seen some people mention this on these boards.
 
The following users thanked this post: organaut

Offline Fred Smith

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #4 on: October 11, 2017, 06:07:09 AM »
There is an early version of the Genos reference manual floating around.
I have seen some people mention this on these boards.

I think you’re mistaken. The user manual is out, but not the Reference manual.

Fred
Fred Smith,
Saskatoon, SK
Sun Lakes, AZ
Tyros 4, Bose L1, Finale 2011
Check out my Registration Lessons
 
The following users thanked this post: organaut

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #5 on: October 11, 2017, 06:15:43 AM »
I think you’re mistaken. The user manual is out, but not the Reference manual.

Fred

No, i am not
Some people on here claimed to have access to an early version of the reference manual

Just do a search on the forums and you should find who and where
 
The following users thanked this post: organaut

Offline jgriffin

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #6 on: October 11, 2017, 06:23:50 AM »
I think Fred is right.....if there was a reference manual available - WE WOULD ALL KNOW ABOUT IT.  Just sayin'

It's the most sought after item on the planet right now!!
Janet
PSR Performer page
Yamaha Baby Grand, (2) Motif ES8, Tyos 2, (2) Tyros 3, Tyros 5-76, DGX-650 & 660, Yamaha P140, StagePas 300 & 600, (2) Bose Compact, Yamaha AG06
 
The following users thanked this post: organaut

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #7 on: October 11, 2017, 07:22:52 AM »
Thanks folks, I did wonder that it wouldn’t be ready this soon.I saw there is now a colour downloadable brochure too. From what I’ve read of the instruction manual so far it seems very straight forward, at least for anyone with Tyros 4/5 experience. I like the favourites feature, that will come in very handy. :)
 

Offline billtracy

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #8 on: October 11, 2017, 08:09:21 AM »
No, i am not
Some people on here claimed to have access to an early version of the reference manual

Just do a search on the forums and you should find who and where

That is correct, there have been a couple of claims about a preliminary version of the reference manual. I'm a little skeptical of this since if it existed it would probably be leaked like everything else. I suppose it's possible though.
Current Gear: Roland E-A7, KRK Rokit 5s, Voicelive Play.
Previously Owned: Yamaha PSR-740, Yamaha PSR-1100, Yamaha PSR-S750, Roland BK-3.
 
The following users thanked this post: Del 123

Offline Lloyd E

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #9 on: October 11, 2017, 09:57:26 AM »
I, like others have gone to Yamaha looking for a reference manual but it’s not to be had as yet.  Lloyd
Music is the way to go
 

Offline Bachus

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #10 on: October 11, 2017, 10:07:15 AM »
I think Fred is right.....if there was a reference manual available - WE WOULD ALL KNOW ABOUT IT.  Just sayin'

It's the most sought after item on the planet right now!!


Well, i have a reference manual here on my ipad... yes a reference manual for the Genos

However it would not be wise to send it around as its not complete nor finalised, if anyome has questions i will answer them.. (and yes there are other members that can comfirm)


Its not wise to send it all around...  but most people that where in Berlin should have one to, but are not allowed to say so.
Keyszone.boards.net for all the latest keyboard news and information.
 

Offline jimlaing

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #11 on: October 11, 2017, 10:12:01 AM »
I'm more eager to see the Data List, for a variety of bits of info we could "glean" from that. . . . I assume I'll have to wait a few more weeks on that (?)

-Jim

Offline Fred Smith

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #12 on: October 11, 2017, 10:39:08 AM »
Well, i have a reference manual here on my ipad... yes a reference manual for the Genos

However it would not be wise to send it around as its not complete nor finalised, if anyome has questions i will answer them.. (and yes there are other members that can comfirm)

If it’s not wise to pass it around, isn’t it equally unwise to say you have it?

Fred
Fred Smith,
Saskatoon, SK
Sun Lakes, AZ
Tyros 4, Bose L1, Finale 2011
Check out my Registration Lessons
 

Offline Bachus

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #13 on: October 11, 2017, 10:56:06 AM »
If it’s not wise to pass it around, isn’t it equally unwise to say you have it?

Fred

No Fred..

Because i have offered several times to answer questions...
So if you have “ specific questions” i can give you a basic answer
Keyszone.boards.net for all the latest keyboard news and information.
 

Offline Jørgen

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #14 on: October 11, 2017, 11:06:45 AM »
Hi

What about the Data List which I must have to update my software programs?

Jørgen
The Unofficial YAMAHA Keyboard Resource Site at http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha
- since 1999
 

Offline Joe H

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #15 on: October 11, 2017, 11:08:06 AM »
No Fred..

Because i have offered several times to answer questions...
So if you have “ specific questions” i can give you a basic answer

Likewise.  I too have used it to answer many inquiries.  While helpful to some degree, as Bachus states, it is a draft and incomplete... subject to change.  There is no value in passing something around that may contain inaccurate information and incomplete information.  Genos may have some firmware updates before the reference manual is officially released, so... let's wait for the final release that is complete and accurate.

I also think the Data List Book is more important since it will reflect full technical info and MIDI implementation.

Regards,
Joe H
« Last Edit: October 11, 2017, 11:46:44 AM by Joe H »
Music is the Universal Language!

My Article: Using Multi Pads for EDM. Download Regs, Styles & MPs:  http://psrtutorial.com/music/articles/dancemusic.html
 

Offline Tryggve

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #16 on: October 11, 2017, 11:17:28 AM »
Hello! The clickbutton i removed  I use it all the time on the T5. Is there any new system for that.
 

Online Jeff Hollande

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2017, 11:19:19 AM »
Hi B,

I think most questions might come from future Genos owners who want to know much more about editing, audio styles etc.

I will not bother you ... I will continue with my present keyboard and my DAW. 😉

Best regards, Jeff
DAWS MAC & WIN
 

Offline Bachus

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2017, 01:14:14 PM »
Hi

What about the Data List which I must have to update my software programs?

Jørgen

No sign of the data list yet.. i think it will be the last of the manualls tobe finalized..
Keyszone.boards.net for all the latest keyboard news and information.
 

Offline Jørgen

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #19 on: October 11, 2017, 03:13:38 PM »
No sign of the data list yet.. i think it will be the last of the manualls tobe finalized..

Thanks

No data list = no work... at the moment... ;)

Jørgen
The Unofficial YAMAHA Keyboard Resource Site at http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha
- since 1999
 

Offline maartenb

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #20 on: October 12, 2017, 02:53:37 AM »
Hello! The clickbutton i removed  I use it all the time on the T5. Is there any new system for that.

Hi, welcome to the forum!

I guess you mean the Metronome? It has been placed under an assignable button ("A" if I recall correctly) on the Genos.


Maarten
 

Offline Bachus

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2017, 03:16:49 AM »
Thanks

No data list = no work... at the moment... ;)

Jørgen

Thats true, i guess converting all your excisting tools for full Genos compatibillity is a huge amount of work..

So i will not even start a discussion about future specific Genos apps...

But the knowledge that this community really appreciates all your effort must be a good feeling
Keyszone.boards.net for all the latest keyboard news and information.
 
The following users thanked this post: Tryggve

Offline soundphase

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2017, 04:12:16 AM »
Are part EQ limited to 2 (High-cut and Low-cut) by parts ?
 

Offline voodoo

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2017, 04:24:10 AM »
Bachus,

please can you comment on the following:

* You said, there is no mono legato. But I heard it should be on the voice set parameters? Could you confirm?

* From the demos I got the impression, that there is no concept of "DSP variation" any more. (Do not mix with "variation DSP"). So the Leslie slow/fast switching seems to be done by a specialized parameter, instead of using "DSP variation on/off" as until now. Otherwise the "rot sp/assignable" button should have be named "variation".

* Will it still be possible, to save DSP parameter settings to registrations, as it is possible for the S970? This was a big advance from T5, which needed user effects for this. Only the parameter chart of the data list will tell for sure. But is it mentioned in the ref man of the Genos? The S970 ref man did mention this.

Uli

Yamaha PSR-S970 (sold)
Yamaha Genos (ordered)
Nord Electro 5D
 

Offline Jørgen

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #24 on: October 12, 2017, 04:56:44 AM »
...
But the knowledge that this community really appreciates all your effort must be a good feeling

Sure. And appreciated...  :)
Jørgen
The Unofficial YAMAHA Keyboard Resource Site at http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha
- since 1999
 
The following users thanked this post: dtah80

Offline soundphase

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #25 on: October 12, 2017, 07:21:07 AM »
* Will it still be possible, to save DSP parameter settings to registrations, as it is possible for the S970? This was a big advance from T5, which needed user effects for this. Only the parameter chart of the data list will tell for sure. But is it mentioned in the ref man of the Genos? The S970 ref man did mention this.
+1000000 :-)
 

Offline Bachus

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #26 on: October 12, 2017, 07:52:51 AM »
Bachus,

please can you comment on the following:

* You said, there is no mono legato. But I heard it should be on the voice set parameters? Could you confirm?

the only portamento setting i could find is Portamento time..

Portamento is a function that creates a smooth transition in pitch from the first note played on the keyboard to the next. The Portamento Time determines the pitch transition time. Higher values result in a longer pitch change time. Setting this to “0” results in no effect. This parameter is avail- able for keyboard parts which are set to “Mono”


* From the demos I got the impression, that there is no concept of "DSP variation" any more. (Do not mix with "variation DSP"). So the Leslie slow/fast switching seems to be done by a specialized parameter, instead of using "DSP variation on/off" as until now. Otherwise the "rot sp/assignable" button should have be named "variation".

you can use that specific button for :
-rotary speed
-fade in/out
-insert dsp on/off for a specified sound/Channel
-mono/poly for specified sound
-modulation comtroll(joystick) on/of for sound/channel
There are more functions assignable to the 6 assignable buttons
 


* Will it still be possible, to save DSP parameter settings to registrations, as it is possible for the S970? This was a big advance from T5, which needed user effects for this. Only the parameter chart of the data list will tell for sure. But is it mentioned in the ref man of the Genos? The S970 ref man did mention this.

Uli

For the last question we will have to wayt for the data list i asume...
Keyszone.boards.net for all the latest keyboard news and information.
 

Offline soundphase

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #27 on: October 12, 2017, 08:19:35 AM »
Thank you. Are part EQ limited to 2 (High-cut and Low-cut) by parts ?
 

Offline Bachus

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #28 on: October 12, 2017, 10:22:10 AM »
Thank you. Are part EQ limited to 2 (High-cut and Low-cut) by parts ?

The eq is high and low for each part...
You can insert a possitive or negative value for each of them..

The main eq is 8 steps...
Keyszone.boards.net for all the latest keyboard news and information.
 

Offline soundphase

Re: Reference manual
« Reply #29 on: October 12, 2017, 10:58:14 AM »
The eq is high and low for each part...
You can insert a possitive or negative value for each of them..

The main eq is 8 steps...
Thank you. No change from T5 (at least for part EQ). If we can store dsp instant parameter values (EQ effect ) in registries, it will be a not so bad news.