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Offline Cosmorot

I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« on: August 07, 2017, 02:45:34 AM »
A big request to change in the Expansion Manager:
1.Make the sampler window larger.
It's just "hello cataracts." And to enter the exact data of velosity and get on the note is not reality.
2. Add the possibility of crossfade to the modulation wheel.
That the volume of the element could be associated with the values of the wheel. Ability to specify lower and upper threshold.
3. Add the editing ability of Art.1 and Art.2 (81 and 82 midi controller)
I really want to switch between the elements!
4. Add the possibility of conditions to play samples on the release notes.
In the dirrect voices it is possible to do this, but can not Custom Voice. It's not fair!

Thank you for your attention and understanding.
If T5 owners agree with me - put the Like.
« Last Edit: August 07, 2017, 02:48:53 AM by Cosmorot »
 
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Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #1 on: August 07, 2017, 06:05:07 AM »

Hope you will get what you want.😊

However I wonder if this prog will be still usable for the next high end arranger that will be available soon.
We simply do not know yet. 😚

If not it will be hard to expect particular changes and/or updates, I guess.

Jeff
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Offline Cosmorot

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #2 on: August 07, 2017, 09:13:33 AM »
No matter how I think, everything can be converted.
The main thing is that there are tools to create! And I've done a lot already. And if the tools will appear ... I will be able to surprise with what can Tyros5. And maybe Genos

Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #3 on: August 07, 2017, 11:22:24 AM »
I am convinced most T5 owners are very happy with this great instrument. 😃

I wish all owners of the Genos a lot of fun with their new high end arranger keyboard. As usual they will not be disappointed.🌹

After 15 happy Tyros years I hope the Genos will bring us a complete new and fresh music experience.

Jeff
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Offline Joe H

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #4 on: August 07, 2017, 12:05:05 PM »
Cosmorot,

Let's hope Yamaha have been listening to us.  They must know by now that young arranger owners want more than just sit and play capability. They want deep Voice editing and Voice creation, and serious real-time control for both studio recording and live performance.

 8)

Joe H
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Offline ugawoga

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #5 on: August 07, 2017, 12:08:47 PM »
Biggest would be Daw compatibility which makes the numbers of zeros and ones line up.
A daw that does not glitch with these arrangers

Put a few mistakes right and multi track on the  computer big screen. Also for final mixing.
Better sounds and the rest does not really matter.
Yes,certainly play live and do minor corrections where needed for yur own studio versions

Any more than that combine with vst instruments
All the best
John 8)
 

Offline Ingar

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #6 on: August 07, 2017, 12:24:26 PM »
I want Yamaha to add more languages. There will be trouble with storage since Scandinavian languages have some letters that English does not have. I think it is a fairly reasonable requirement for such an expensive instrument.
 

Offline metcam

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #7 on: August 07, 2017, 02:13:02 PM »
A big request to change in the Expansion Manager:
1.Make the sampler window larger.
It's just "hello cataracts." And to enter the exact data of velosity and get on the note is not reality.
2. Add the possibility of crossfade to the modulation wheel.
That the volume of the element could be associated with the values of the wheel. Ability to specify lower and upper threshold.
3. Add the editing ability of Art.1 and Art.2 (81 and 82 midi controller)
I really want to switch between the elements!
4. Add the possibility of conditions to play samples on the release notes.
In the dirrect voices it is possible to do this, but can not Custom Voice. It's not fair!

Thank you for your attention and understanding.
If T5 owners agree with me - put the Like.

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Copy/Paste element from one to another voice
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Offline Cosmorot

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2017, 10:32:56 PM »
Thank you Joy for your support and understanding.

metcam
Quote
Copy/Paste   note from one to another voice/drum
Copy/Paste element from one to another voice
Load individual voice/drum into T5
Mono-legato portamento options
I forgot about it! :) I'm subscribing!

About language - it should be easy to learn. The main edition! Opportunities that are voiced, but they are not.
 

Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2017, 12:16:40 AM »
Let's hope Yamaha have been listening to us.  They must know by now that young arranger owners want more than just sit and play capability. They want deep Voice editing and Voice creation, and serious real-time control for both studio recording and live performance.


Hi Joe H,

I wonder if young people are believing the arranger keyboard of today is an instrument that is suitable for their creativity, their needs and their budgets.

More important is to find out if they like and want to play this music instrument. Wishful thinking ?

Even when Yamaha should have the intention to focus more on young musicians I personally think it will not be easy to convince young people to buy an instrument like an arranger keyboard. ::)
 
Young musicians like mostly guitars, pianos, organs, synths, midi keyboards and other computer instruments.

Young musicians are very familiar with DAWs and other music software. Much more than our generation
For them music software is a very usual, a " natural " tool.
Most of them are making their recordings at home, in their so called home studios.
They are looking for music hardware that fits in their concepts.
And last but not least many of them want to play and sing together ( in a band e.g. ).

We may say the music software manufacturers are following the trends of young people, right ?

Like me, most of the arranger keyboard owners are older people, playing music for older people.

Will that ever change ? Hard to believe, I guess. ???

Best regards,
Jeff



 
 
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Offline Cosmorot

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2017, 02:20:24 AM »
Disagree. Any instrument should be universal! And in the era of the VST, when the need for a workstation was mainly for the stage, Yamaha made a total breakthrough in the concept of a universal keyboard. Now the T5 is capable of being a master-studio keyboard. After all, access to complex voices is now instant! And it should be noted that the biggest problem for DAW is a computer resource. And TIROS completely lightens the load processor.
I had a lot of hardware devices. My favorite AKAY is not so relevant anymore. Nobody makes new samplers.
Now there Tyros 5! And he solved many problems! And I want this wonderful keyboard to solve the problems with the voices completely.

  I also want to note that I had many devices. And the worst support was always from Yamaha! (Unfortunately  :-\ ). Build quality too! I want feedback from Yamaha. Already have a great instrument! Let them bring it to perfection.
  I will not challenge the application! By the way, I played with him on the big stage and it's very convenient! + I do not think that the desired update costs will be unprofitable for Yamaha. This will completely put Yamaha in 1st place.
 

Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #11 on: August 08, 2017, 03:06:53 AM »
Hi C,

Thanks for your comments and I hope your request will be successful.

I am glad to hear you are so pleased with your T5.😃

Jeff
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Offline Cosmorot

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #12 on: August 08, 2017, 03:18:35 AM »
Jeff Hollande
Anytime! The truth is I do not know exactly how I could please you. :)
I still have Tyros 2. This is the top line. And with the purchase of Tyros 5 I sold the Virus, Korg M3, Korg Triton, Akay s5000, Roland Phantom etc.
And thanks for the wishes. I hope Yamaha will hear me.  :D
 

Offline ugawoga

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #13 on: August 08, 2017, 05:33:55 AM »
BIGGEST REQUEST ,Just DAW compatibility

SOUND UPGRADE
SPEAKER SYSTEM UPGRADE.
Also Smooth transitions between registrations as some sounds do glitch If not all at same level.
Better Pad making with quantize.
footpedal option for articulations  ***
make the kick Drums not so dominent In Styles. Always have to adjust them.
Pitch correction would be nice for the awful singing on forums!!!! ;D :P :o
Please no more doooodooos and Schlager !!! Rather have the beer!!
Whiskey dispenser a must!!! 8)
 

Offline EileenL

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #14 on: August 08, 2017, 05:57:57 AM »
There is pitch correction on the vocal side but it will only go so far. It can't perform miracles  :D
Also you can assign Super Articulation action to the foot peddles.

Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #15 on: August 08, 2017, 06:33:12 AM »
Hi C,

If you are looking for feedback from Yamaha I am not so sure if this Forum is the right place.

It would be much better to contact Yamaha directly by e-mail and explain them what your needs are, I guess.

Good Luck, Jeff
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Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #16 on: August 08, 2017, 07:18:57 AM »
Biggest would be Daw compatibility

Hi John,

It would be a real dream for many DAW users, like me, but ... I am not so hopeful.  :'(
If it is your intention to upgrade, I may hope you will not be disappointed if this feature will not be available in the Genos.

But from the bottom of my heart I wish I am wrong. ;)

Jeff
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Offline EileenL

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2017, 07:50:54 AM »
Yes Jeff,
  You can not rely on forums to relay messages to Yamaha Japan which is usually where all messages are sent
If you feel very strongly about something then Yamaha is the place to tell.
   I really do not know what people will do if the new keyboard is not called Genos. ;D ;D ;D

Offline Joe H

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2017, 07:51:36 AM »
Jeff,

You state everything as if it were FACT.  In the future, I hope you will consider signing all your posts with a disclaimer... IMHO.  Some of us already know that it's your opinion(s), but for the benefit of those gullible folks here who think that everything they read here is the gospel truth that just might be helpful

 :D

Regards,
Joe H
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Offline Cosmorot

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2017, 08:14:12 AM »
Jeff, I'm happy to write! But where? What e-mail? I wrote on America - Yamaha no answer.

And with DAW I have no problems. The controller of FCB 1010 is an excellent pair to T5...
 

Offline Joe H

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #20 on: August 08, 2017, 08:33:29 AM »
Jeff, I'm happy to write! But where? What e-mail? I wrote on America - Yamaha no answer.

And with DAW I have no problems. The controller of FCB 1010 is an excellent pair to T5...

Yes no answer anymore here in America.  They say "legal issue"... that probably means Yamaha does not want anyone claiming they stole someone's ideas who will want to be paid for their ideas.  so... Yamaha USA reads this forum now and gets lots of ideas for free they can use and even patent if they want.

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Offline Cosmorot

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #21 on: August 08, 2017, 08:37:25 AM »
OK. Does anyone know the working email address of Yamaha support?
 

Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #22 on: August 08, 2017, 09:21:29 AM »
Hi Joe,

Before I am able to reply I would like to know what IMHO means. :)

Thanks, Jeff
« Last Edit: August 08, 2017, 09:32:39 AM by Jeff Hollande »
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Offline Ingar

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #23 on: August 08, 2017, 09:51:57 AM »
Hi Joe,

Before I am able to reply I would like to know what IMHO means. :)

Thanks, Jeff
In My Humble Opinion  - I Guess :-)

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Offline mikf

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #24 on: August 08, 2017, 10:22:05 AM »
Just in case Yamaha do read this... I want to put the opposite viewpoint. Arrangers and workstations are different for a reason, just as cars and pick ups are different for a reason, even if there is some commonality. The idea that there should be a universal single solution makes no sense - in both cases.
Mike
 

Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #25 on: August 08, 2017, 10:43:20 AM »
Hi Joe,

I would like to thank Ingar. Now I know what IMHO means.  ;)

Sorry Joe but I feel too humble to reply.  :)

Cheers,
Jeff

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Offline ugawoga

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #26 on: August 08, 2017, 11:27:33 AM »
F.A.B.  Thunderbirds R go!!! 8) SWALK :-*
 

Offline Pigletboy

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #27 on: August 08, 2017, 01:00:21 PM »
ROFL!!  ;D
 

Offline EileenL

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #28 on: August 08, 2017, 02:32:49 PM »
In My Honest Opinion the new model is now finished so save all these new ideas for the next one.

Offline Cosmorot

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #29 on: August 08, 2017, 11:49:59 PM »
But I paid for this model! I paid for the options that I read in the manuals and forums! And thus only half works !? Then who will return me half of the money? I do not want and I do not have time to sell-buy!
   Up to 5 I was sitting on T2 and was very glad that I did not overpay money for 3 and 4! Because the difference in options was 2 cents, and the difference in price was like a house!
   And if Yamaha extorts money that way. Then from the next model you can not expect anything new ....
 

Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #30 on: August 09, 2017, 01:20:23 AM »
I really do not know what people will do if the new keyboard is not called Genos.

Hi Eileen,

You might be right. Up to now Yamaha never confirmed the new high end kb will be called Genos.
Nobody will be in shock, maybe surprised. ;)

Perhaps the Tyros Dynasty will be continued : Tyros6 ... who knows ?  :)
Time will tell.

Jeff
« Last Edit: August 09, 2017, 01:30:34 AM by Jeff Hollande »
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Offline TwinTyros

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #31 on: August 09, 2017, 02:46:05 AM »
I really do not know what people will do if the new keyboard is not called Genos.

Hi Eileen,

You might be right. Up to now Yamaha never confirmed the new high end kb will be called Genos.
Nobody will be in shock, maybe surprised. ;)

Perhaps the Tyros Dynasty will be continued : Tyros6 ... who knows ?  :)
Time will tell.

Jeff


what about GEENNOS ?!

ps. Jeff knows what I mean by this, and I'm sure there are again tears on his cheeks from laughing.
« Last Edit: August 09, 2017, 09:10:41 AM by TwinTyros »
Regards,
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Offline EileenL

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #32 on: August 09, 2017, 03:04:38 AM »
Well Geoff,
  Certainly when you mention Tyros everyone know what you are talking about. It has become an established name.
   I must disagree with the member who thinks Yamaha extorts money. I would hope we all go into buying a new keyboard knowing what it will give us. No one is holding a gun to us when we pay our money. There has been a great improvement from Tyros 2 to Tyros 5. I do not understand what you mean when you say you paid for the model and the options and only half works.
   There are always improvements on every Tyros that has come out and of course you will pay more for new models but then this applies to everything you buy today.

Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #33 on: August 09, 2017, 03:31:14 AM »
That is absolutley correct, Eileen.
The brand name Tyros stands for quality and is known all over the world.

Instead of Tyros6 or Genos, The New Tyros might have been a good name too. ;)

BTW It was not me who talked about T2 - T5 etc. That is another member. See messages. 8)

Bye for now, Jeff

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Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #34 on: August 09, 2017, 03:33:24 AM »
what about GEENNOS ?!

ps. Jeff knows what I mean by this, an I'm sure there are again tears on his cheeks from laughing.


You are absolutely right, Marcel ... I am still laughing but only Dutch people can understand the word.

Jeff
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Offline Cosmorot

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #35 on: August 09, 2017, 03:42:58 AM »
It is better "Parteigenosse"  ;)
 

Offline ugawoga

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #36 on: August 09, 2017, 05:15:17 AM »
To predict the next keyboard you have to be GENIUS
 

Offline EileenL

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #37 on: August 09, 2017, 06:43:31 AM »
Yes very true but it will be a good 'un.

Offline Cosmorot

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #38 on: August 09, 2017, 11:24:40 AM »
Who can give a link to sane support?
 

Offline Joe H

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #39 on: August 09, 2017, 11:39:13 AM »
Cosmorot,

I suggest you try this email... but put in your email Subject Title  Attention Steve Deming  (this is very important to do)

State in your email that you want this email to go the Steve Deming.  Write your concerns to Steve personally and if you are in the USA include your daytime phone number, because Steve just might actually call you and talk to you.   If you are not in the USA, ask Steve who you can contact in your part of the world.

  supportreply@yamaha.com

Let us know how this goes.

Regards,
Joe H

« Last Edit: August 09, 2017, 11:42:14 AM by Joe H »
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Online Roger Brenizer

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #40 on: August 09, 2017, 12:02:49 PM »
Yes, Joe, you are correct when you say that Steve just might actually call you and talk to you, because he's called me before.  :)

Did you run out of popcorn?  ::)  ;D  ;D  ;D
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My best regards,
Roger

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Offline Joe H

Re: I hope the developers of Yamaha read.
« Reply #41 on: August 09, 2017, 01:33:55 PM »
Did you run out of popcorn?  ::)  ;D  ;D  ;D

Funny you should ask... I've been thinking I might need to order another case...  September / October is still a distance away.  LOL

 ;D

Joe H
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