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Offline Mark Z.

Re: Genos will have Montage technology
« Reply #50 on: July 20, 2017, 09:50:44 AM »
Hi Bachus ,

These instruments are not accordeons , these instruments are keyboards with
accordeon buttons .

Some of them have buttons only for the left hand and others have buttons
for left and right .

I know them but these instruments are keyboards .
The buttons are there to make it easy for accordeonplayers to play a keyboard .

And yes , these keyboards have arrangers .
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Online Bachus

Re: Genos will have Montage technology
« Reply #51 on: July 20, 2017, 09:41:18 PM »
Hi Bachus ,

These instruments are not accordeons , these instruments are keyboards with
accordeon buttons .

Some of them have buttons only for the left hand and others have buttons
for left and right .

I know them but these instruments are keyboards .
The buttons are there to make it easy for accordeonplayers to play a keyboard .

And yes , these keyboards have arrangers .

We disagree here, in my vision a keyboard has black and white keys and nothing else..

To play these instrument, it requires you to know how to play an accordeon and not how to play organ/piano and therefor its an accordeon, as much as a keytar is a keyboard and not a guitar...

They are made for accordeonists and not for keyboardists...

I think the defining factor of an instrument is how you play it... in this case keys versus buttons.. and yes, some accordeons also have keys, but they allways have buttons.. i dont ever remember an accordeon with black and white keys on the left and the right side.


Not that it is important what they are called... if an accordeonist wants an arranger... having one of these works much much better then having it build into an accordeon..  for accordeon you have 2 choices... this choice, or midi accordeon+arranger module..  having a screen and all those arranger elements added to the surface of an accordeon would never work..
Life is like a box of chocolats, you never know what you are gonna get, so enjoy them all.  I am wayting for the next box of chocolate the Yamaha Genos.

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Offline Mark Z.

Re: Genos will have Montage technology
« Reply #52 on: July 21, 2017, 12:44:34 AM »
Hi Bachus ,

We will ever disagree about this but I think it is not important .
I am a keyboardplayer and an accordeonplayer .

When I see the smallest Roland BK module I think that it must be possible
to build an arranger in an accordeon .
Maybe not today but in the near future .

It will be a small step for mankind but a large one for accordeonplayers .




Online Bachus

Re: Genos will have Montage technology
« Reply #53 on: July 21, 2017, 06:12:23 AM »
Hi Bachus ,

We will ever disagree about this but I think it is not important .
I am a keyboardplayer and an accordeonplayer .

When I see the smallest Roland BK module I think that it must be possible
to build an arranger in an accordeon .
Maybe not today but in the near future .

It will be a small step for mankind but a large one for accordeonplayers .

Most accordeon players i know.. and even asked about this, say they are quite happy with their midi accordeon connected to their Ketron arranger modules.. 

Why would anyone build an accordeon with a build in arranger, if most people are happy with an arranger module? (that can also be used in combination with a stage piano, performance synth or worlstation).

Your accordeon arranger is probably as much wishfull thinking as having a high end 88 key stage arranger..  but arranger modules are here.. and have a future.. as they can turn about any instrument into an arranger...
Life is like a box of chocolats, you never know what you are gonna get, so enjoy them all.  I am wayting for the next box of chocolate the Yamaha Genos.

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Offline bernamato

Re: Genos will have Montage technology
« Reply #54 on: August 05, 2017, 03:59:33 AM »
I hope that genos will let us  play mp3 backing track and styles, both in tempo sync .
Another features that I hope to see is:
1) play a mp3 audio backing tracks with only for example the voice of the singer, a lead track and bass;
2) play a style in sync with backing tracks in genre we choice and for example play style with drum, guitars, and other accompaniment tracks, all in sync with mp3 backing track said above.

This is what I prefer.

Regards,

 

Offline maartenb

Re: Genos will have Montage technology
« Reply #55 on: August 05, 2017, 04:54:14 AM »
There is a change that those features will be in the Genos.

As Paul's blog post about Yamaha patents showed, Yamaha has the technology to detect tempo from audio. The Montage has that capability already.

We'll see (and hear) probably mid september.


Maarten
 

Online Bachus

Re: Genos will have Montage technology
« Reply #56 on: August 05, 2017, 09:32:25 AM »
There is a change that those features will be in the Genos.

As Paul's blog post about Yamaha patents showed, Yamaha has the technology to detect tempo from audio. The Montage has that capability already.

We'll see (and hear) probably mid september.


Maarten

Multi track audio support...
Combined with those technologies...
8 stereo tracks...

And 8 should be the miracle word for Genos..

8 sounds for keyboardparts..
8 multipads..
8 scenes
8 sts settings
8 knobs

3 versions Genos 6, Genos 7 and Genos 8

Life is like a box of chocolats, you never know what you are gonna get, so enjoy them all.  I am wayting for the next box of chocolate the Yamaha Genos.

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Offline bernamato

Re: Genos will have Montage technology
« Reply #57 on: August 05, 2017, 09:33:56 AM »
Thank you for the news.
Another features I forgot to say before regards to play for example a style with an audio guitar rhytmic part that follows the chords you are playing.

That would be a great step ahead!!!

Regards,
 

Offline pjd

Re: Genos will have Montage technology
« Reply #58 on: August 05, 2017, 10:10:12 AM »
Hi folks --

If I understand Yamaha's patents, their approach to combined audio/MIDI styles would allow the kind of guitar part suggested by bernamato. Instead of a MIDI part driving a Megavoice, there would be an underlying audio loop of some guy or gal comp'ing a rhythm guitar riff. The accompaniment engine chooses the loop for the chord and does the appropriate time stretch and pitch shifting to sync the loop to the current tempo and left-hand accompaniment chord.

Yeah, that makes for a big database of loops! We'll see if this tech makes it into GENOS or not.  ???  ;)

All the best -- pj

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