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Offline yamamans

Information please
« on: February 19, 2017, 09:22:35 AM »
Hello to all,.....I have a possibility of purchasing a Yamaha "Tyros(1)....The price is hovering around the 500:00 mark.
My question(S) is what should i look out for,and and what questions should I be asking .
And as you know from my previous posts regarding my newly acquired PSR EW 400..Well it's now getting there but slowly.....Is the Tyros(1) easier to set up....Many thanks for looking. :D
 

Offline SeaGtGruff

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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2017, 10:56:54 AM »
I've never owned a Tyros or PSR-S model, but I would imagine it's more difficult to set up in that there are many more features to be set up, yet at the same time it's easier to set up in that things which can only be accomplished through some sort of workaround on the PSR-E models-- or else which aren't possible at all-- can be done more easily on the Tyros. So you'll have features to learn about, but those features should make it easier to do certain things, if you follow me. :)
Michael Rideout
YPT-400, PSR-E433, PSR-E443
 

Offline yamamans

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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2017, 11:12:30 AM »
Thanks Michael,its just that I heard(down the pub) !!!!...That the Tyros 1 features the MOC( auto melody on chord n left hand) as is standard on Electone organs,any further comments very welcome.hanks for reading  ;)
 

Offline SeaGtGruff

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« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2017, 01:08:10 PM »
Another nice thing about the Tyros is that you'll probably be able to find more local people who are familiar with the Tyros and able to give you one-on-one tutoring than is the case with the PSR-EW400. Plus, there are a number of helpful videos and tutorials available on the main PSR Tutorial web site. :)
Michael Rideout
YPT-400, PSR-E433, PSR-E443
 

Offline tyrosaurus

Re: Information please
« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2017, 05:24:36 PM »
Yamamans,

I have a Tyros4, but still have an old Yamaha MC600 organ which has 'MOC' ('Melody On Chord'), and I can confirm that it is effectively an older and much more basic version of what is called 'Harmony' on your PSR-EW400, or 'Harmony/Echo' on other Yamaha arrangers such as the MOTL PSR or TOTL Tyros models.

The 'Harmony' function on your EW400 has 26 different types of Harmony, of which the first 4 (Duet, Trio, Block and Country') give MOC, whilst the Tyros1 has 17 types, 13 of which are MOC.  I assume that either of these is more than on your Electone!

I also have an old Yamaha DGX-505 which has a similar 'function' based operating system to your EW400, and I have to say that I find it much easier to use the Tyros OS (which has remained broadly similar over the years from the Tyros1 onwards) to make changes to any parameters than I did on the DGX.  However I am constantly using my Tyros4, whilst the DGX just gathers dust, so that will have something to do with it!

It is just a case of what you are familiar with, and to get the best out of any new keyboard, you need to read up, at least on the features that interest you.  Did you instinctively know what MOC did when you first got your Electone?

I would respectfully suggest that if you can't work out the 'Harmony' function on your EW400, then you will also struggle with a Tyros unless you are prepared to read the relevant parts of the manuals.  You may find that if you learn how to use your EW400's functions, you don't actually need another board!

I don't know if 500 is a good price for a Tyros1, but remember that this a fairly old keyboard (marketed from Nov. 2002 to Nov.2005) and so it is not likely to be in pristine electrical condition if it has been used regularly, however 'clean' it looks from the outside!

It has a floppy disk drive, which at this age can be unreliable.  It does not have a 'USB to device' socket, so you can't use USB memory sticks to transfer styles etc., although you can connect it's 'USB to host' socket to a computer and transfer files using file transfer software.  It may have an (optional) small hard disk which at least increases on board file storage, but you would still need to use the floppy drive or computer to add files to it.

A Tyros2 also has a floppy disk drive, but more importantly, as well as the 'USB to host' socket for connecting to a computer, it also has 2 'USB to device' sockets which can used with USB memory sticks and should be much more reliable than an old floppy disk drive.  This would be the earliest Tyros model that I would consider if I wanted a legacy Tyros keyboard!


Regards

Ian
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Online Dick Rector

Re: Information please
« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2017, 06:54:09 PM »
I would carefully suggest to look for a younger PSR model if you can spend 500 Pounds. T1 was very nice at the time but the newer generation PSR's have so much more, and better voices, let alone USB connections.
PSR-2000 and PSR-S950
 

Offline yamamans

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« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2017, 10:34:50 AM »
Many thanks to you all for your comments... ;D
 

Offline DerekA

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« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2017, 11:35:18 AM »
I'd have to agree - if you have 500 to spare, and you want a keyboard, then the PSR S670 would be an excellent choice. It is quite a bit more advanced than the EW model, so you'd need to be prepared to put some time in.
S770