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Offline Jeff Hollande

GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« on: January 09, 2017, 12:44:03 AM »

Today I have been told the Genos will be available - for sale - in September 2017.

I really wonder if this rumor is correct. ::)

Usually Yamaha are launching their highend keyboard at the end of a year, right ?

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Offline Oldden

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2017, 01:24:53 AM »
Just a link to info about Yamaha GENOS trademark progress

https://trademarks.justia.com/870/87/genos-87087567.html

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Offline EileenL

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2017, 03:28:12 AM »
I still think it is anyone's guess but launch is usually around end September beginning October.

Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #3 on: January 09, 2017, 05:11:22 AM »
Thank you for your feedback, Jeff
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Online Bachus

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2017, 01:45:49 PM »
I have no proof of this....

But been saying that for like two years now... tough i still think the one that said that made a well educated guess..

If there is a September release, the inner circle of yamaha dealers might get briefed about this at or around the musik messe...  and they are probably the first in europe to know...
Life is like a box of chocolats, you never know what you are gonna get, so enjoy them all.  I am wayting for the next box of chocolate the Yamaha Genos.

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Online Joe H

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2017, 03:34:45 PM »
All this discussion about the next arranger makes me feel like I'm at the train station... and I'm looking down the tracks waiting for the next train to arrive.    ;D

We know it's coming.. and it's behind schedule.   :'(   And there are rumors it's got a new engine with faster speeds and pulling some luxury cars that we will really enjoy riding in.

 8)    ::)     ???

Can you hear it coming? 

 ;D    ;D    ;D

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Offline EileenL

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #6 on: January 10, 2017, 03:56:45 AM »
I don't think it is behind schedule I believe Yamaha decided to get the new Montage launched first this time round. Then they looked towards the new Arranger flag ship.
  Personally I never believe anything until I hear it from Yamaha its self. In the meantime enjoy what you have. Life is very short.

Offline maartenb

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #7 on: January 10, 2017, 05:19:57 AM »
Today I have been told the Genos will be available - for sale - in September 2017.
Hi Jeff,

Without giving away your source, can you give us some background on your source? How credible is it?

Thanks,


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Offline pjd

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2017, 05:32:47 AM »
"In the meantime enjoy what you have. Life is very short."

Amen! There's another train coming down the tracks and none of us really wants to get on board.  :o ;)

All the best -- pj

Offline Jeff Hollande

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2017, 09:44:56 AM »
Hi Maarten,

A Belgian enduser sent me a message by e-mail.
Reliable ? I really do not know.

Cheers, Jeff
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Offline EileenL

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2017, 05:16:49 AM »
Even Yamaha's own people don't get any news until a couple of weeks before launch when shop managers are invited to see it and get information but are all not allowed to say anything until Yamaha make it official.
  Just be patient and it will come along when ready.

Offline Roger Brenizer

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2017, 12:31:11 PM »
I grow weary of all this talk about Yamaha's next arranger, although I'm guilty of reading all the posts about various member's speculations.

This always reminds me of the man who prayed saying; Lord, I would really appreciate it if you would give me patience, but I want it now!!!

I doubt all of our pleading will change Yamaha's mind about it's next flagship.  I still love my Tyros 4.
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Offline EileenL

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2017, 03:23:20 PM »
Yes Roger you are right and Yamaha will make improvements that they see as necessary to keep there customers happy and that will work correctly.

Offline Qiqone

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2017, 04:52:36 AM »
It would be nice to have something like this

https://youtu.be/_cBcO0Ng294
 

Online Bachus

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2017, 09:08:45 AM »
Yes Roger you are right and Yamaha will make improvements that they see as necessary to keep there customers happy and that will work correctly.

You might be surprised...

Yamaha might realise that the future of this product is not only done by making current customers happy... but also bey attrackting new younger customers...   but will that keep the current customers happy...

If it becomes a Genos and not a Tyros 6, there might be major changes ahead of us, in general the older people are, the less enthousiat they are with major changes...
Life is like a box of chocolats, you never know what you are gonna get, so enjoy them all.  I am wayting for the next box of chocolate the Yamaha Genos.

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Online Bachus

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2017, 09:11:14 AM »
It would be nice to have something like this

https://youtu.be/_cBcO0Ng294

Definately would be a fitting tool for any arranger keyboard...
Life is like a box of chocolats, you never know what you are gonna get, so enjoy them all.  I am wayting for the next box of chocolate the Yamaha Genos.

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Offline J. Larry

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2017, 09:21:20 PM »
I love all this speculation and intrigue.  Meanwhile, Iím perfectly content with my two Yamaha arrangers, on which Iíve barely scratched the surface.  And, yes, Iíll probably move up to the next model, if resources allow.  Meanwhile, Iím satisfied with what Iíve got and splitting my time with the latest Band In A Box software, which provides great styles for live performance.  My gigging buddies claim to prefer BIAB tracks over the Yamaha arranger styles.  Thatís them, not me.
 

Offline Keyboardist

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #17 on: May 05, 2017, 07:33:09 AM »
More More More never enough ;D We like what we have now ;then Ut OOooo  :o then next board gets are interest and then we want that.Moore goodies better sounds etc
Must say I would like to try it when it finally becomes available and see what Yamaha has up there sleeve.
Guess its just the human nature thing but we do have a lot to thankful for already and what we have.
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Offline EileenL

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #18 on: May 05, 2017, 07:47:26 AM »
What ever the new keyboard has on it you will always get people who want more or are not happy with the way the piano's sound. Still that is what keeps these forums busy at the end of the day.

Offline Keyboardist

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #19 on: May 05, 2017, 08:23:52 AM »
And also Yamaha in Business Eileen

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Offline EileenL

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #20 on: May 06, 2017, 04:12:39 AM »
Yes Craig,
  That's the best thing.

Offline Leading Edge

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #21 on: May 06, 2017, 04:53:14 AM »
I'm sure it will a decent piece of kit.  However, unless Yamaha change their pricing policy whereby their TOTL arranger is pretty much the most expensive one out there I believe a lot of people will look elsewhere for their next upgrade.   A lot of folk kept their T4 and did not upgrade to the Tyros 5 because it was too expensive.   Those same people are still in the market for a reasonably priced new board.  The likes of Korg and Ketron are looking more attractive these days. 

In addition, Yamaha's policy of charging for everything, excluding OS updates, in respect of software has not really helped their value for money image.  Other manufacturers supply a combination of styles and voices free of charge as part of their ongoing support for customers.   Musicsoft do nothing but keep increasing prices.

My Tyros boards have served me well and I do not regret buying them.  However, Yamaha will not be selling me another over-priced arranger unless they come in at a price point that competes with the competition.   I'm not holding my breath.

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Offline EileenL

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #22 on: May 06, 2017, 06:30:47 AM »
Korg used to give a few free styles but they were not that good. I don't know of any others.
   Not every one would want extra styles and Packs for there keyboards but the choice is there if you do. All hobby's or equipment for professional work has extra's that people want to or have to buy. Why should Yamaha be any different.
  My son has very expensive Camera's but has to buy many extra's to give him what he want's to achieve.

Offline Leading Edge

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #23 on: May 06, 2017, 07:05:36 AM »
Korg still give excellent free styles to owners as do Ketron.  I do not think you will find many people who are not happy to receive free manufacturer software.  Certainly not something Yamaha ever provide. 

I've supported Yamaha products for over 20 years but I honestly believe their products are getting too expensive compared to the competition who are offering equally good instruments and mostly offer better value for money. 
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Online Bachus

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #24 on: May 06, 2017, 11:31:27 AM »
Korg used to give a few free styles but they were not that good. I don't know of any others.
   Not every one would want extra styles and Packs for there keyboards but the choice is there if you do. All hobby's or equipment for professional work has extra's that people want to or have to buy. Why should Yamaha be any different.
  My son has very expensive Camera's but has to buy many extra's to give him what he want's to achieve.

Opinions....

Korg still gibes free styles away every few months a new pack..

And many think the onboard styles of the Korg pa series are better then the yamaha styles... while others prefer the clean sound of yamaha... thats an opinion...

However, the Korg styles are more dynamic then yamaha styles by their structure... inside a single style track, korg can have 32 different patterns that switch based on the type of chord you play..   yamaha styles can have only 2... and thats a fact..

Where Yamaha outshines all other keyboards however, is the huge collection of easy accessible user styles and song specific styles... this can not be found for any other keyboard...  however, any user style that does not use mega voices can be easilly converted to any other keyboard with the right toools and mindset..  however, takes a lot of work and edditing to make it sound good..


Best styles however in my opinion are still Ketron styles... funny things, what makes styles good, its not technical things, its the musicallity of the creators..  and thats where Ketron styles shine...

Life is like a box of chocolats, you never know what you are gonna get, so enjoy them all.  I am wayting for the next box of chocolate the Yamaha Genos.

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Offline Qiqone

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2017, 12:33:57 AM »
Opinions....

Best styles however in my opinion are still Ketron styles... funny things, what makes styles good, its not technical things, its the musicallity of the creators..  and thats where Ketron styles shine...

And that is the biggest dillema for me.

I just can not hear that sound quality from t5 and pa4x, and what I'm really interesting in is: Could pa4x sound better than sd9 after all tweaking and editting???

I realy excpect from t6 or genos to look more like montage (more proffesional), sound like sd9 and editable like pa4!!!
 

Offline stuart301980

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #26 on: May 20, 2017, 09:10:28 AM »
I've heard from a Yamaha rep that there is going to be an announcement in September for the new flagship keyboard

Offline EileenL

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2017, 04:25:03 AM »
Yes that sounds about right. Start saving :D

Online Bachus

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2017, 05:40:33 AM »
Yes that sounds about right. Start saving :D

At the current Yamaha prices, most should have started saving some time ago to have the 2 grand needed for an upgrade... and thats asuming the new Genos isnt more expensive then the T5
Life is like a box of chocolats, you never know what you are gonna get, so enjoy them all.  I am wayting for the next box of chocolate the Yamaha Genos.

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Offline Mendel

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #29 on: May 22, 2017, 03:53:03 PM »
im toooooo excited for the next arranger  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
also hope the ganos/tyros 6 will be just like the sleek modern looking montage UI and UX and it will be touch screen

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Online Lloyd E

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2017, 12:20:23 PM »
I think Yamaha is getting ready to launch the new Genos in the fall. I know a person who ordered a T-5-76 from a dealer and the dealer was told by Yamaha
that one was not available to at least August, To me that means they are ridding themselves of inventory in preparation for the new model. Lloyd
 

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #31 on: June 05, 2017, 11:19:19 PM »
I was at my dealer's last week, and he stopped stocking T5's because he's more or less certain that a successor will be announced in Q4.
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Offline beano

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #32 on: June 06, 2017, 10:44:08 AM »
went to my local wetherspoons asked for a pint of abbot

 reserve...yep you guessed it not available ...there you go another clue to the fact trhe genos  is coming in september....any more
 

Online Bachus

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #33 on: June 06, 2017, 11:53:46 AM »
I was at my dealer's last week, and he stopped stocking T5's because he's more or less certain that a successor will be announced in Q4.

Thats what we have been expecting for the last two years now...

Its not a question of when anymore, but more a question of what are we getting?
Life is like a box of chocolats, you never know what you are gonna get, so enjoy them all.  I am wayting for the next box of chocolate the Yamaha Genos.

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Offline J. Larry

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #34 on: June 06, 2017, 01:17:31 PM »
If a new arranger does show up called the Genos, then, how big a surprise will that be?  Everyoneís been using that term for months.  Maybe Yamaha should really surprise the market with a clever name and keyboard that no one has even suspected.
 

Offline stephenm52

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #35 on: June 06, 2017, 04:30:51 PM »

"In the meantime enjoy what you have. Life is very short."


Amen! There's another train coming down the tracks and none of us really wants to get on board.  :o ;)


All the best -- pj



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Offline soundphase

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #36 on: June 10, 2017, 07:32:47 AM »
In France, I had confirmation from my reseller yesterday for a new flagship before the end of this year. No more information, but "validated" by his own Yamaha contact.


Offline Halesowen Kid

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #37 on: August 01, 2017, 08:59:06 AM »
Hi Guys,

I've been informed today by a dealer here in the UK, that he has received an from Yamaha to invitation to attend the launch to 400 worldwide dealers of the Genos in Berlin, Germany on the 18th September 2017..... ;D

Offline EileenL

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #38 on: August 01, 2017, 12:40:56 PM »
Seems about right. So we should know soon after what is on the new board.

Online Bachus

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #39 on: August 01, 2017, 01:21:35 PM »
Hi Guys,

I've been informed today by a dealer here in the UK, that he has received an from Yamaha to invitation to attend the launch to 400 worldwide dealers of the Genos in Berlin, Germany on the 18th September 2017..... ;D

Hope this is not the secretive pre release for insiders...altough i believe that was in June in London...

We will see when they show it to the internet folks.. 

Nice to notice they are releasing in Germany, that in general seems to be the country where Yamaha is doing worst when it comes tomarranger market percentage..(not that they are doing bad there, but compared to Holland and Uk where Yamaha is at over 90% market share, Germany trails a little)
Life is like a box of chocolats, you never know what you are gonna get, so enjoy them all.  I am wayting for the next box of chocolate the Yamaha Genos.

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Offline ugawoga

Re: GENOS AVAILABLE IN SEPTEMBER 2017 ?
« Reply #40 on: August 01, 2017, 02:36:55 PM »
It would be nice to have something like this

https://youtu.be/_cBcO0Ng294


You can have that now if you combine vst with Tyros 5 via a Daw.
Play the vst stum on channel 1 and that does not interfere with the left hand side for accompianment.
Play any vst instrument that way with the Tyros live
Other than that multi-track 
 

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