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Bazz02

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Pointless Megavoice Demo
« on: May 10, 2013, 10:57:21 AM »
Hi All,
First time poster here.Just got a psr-s900,so far very impressed.
My confusion is the demo of the various voices.
When you demo the megavoices they sound so like the real thing
your jumpin up and down.
Then bang back to earth you realise they cant be played live
and are only for use in styles and midi programming.
Views on this plz.
Sorry if this has been discussed before.

Thx Barry ::)
 

Offline Bill Grosse

Re: Pointless Megavoice Demo
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2013, 11:48:16 AM »
Barry,

Welcome to the forum and congratulations on your 900 keyboard.  8)

No doubt about it, those Mega voices are very good as far as they go, and don't
we all wish we could play them.  :o :)

You can do some playing with them if you go into the Voice Set page of the selected voice and play
with the "Touch Sense" Depth and Offset settings.
Select Mega Jazz Guitar and try Volume of 100, Depth 90, and offset 114 - this is playable and you can use the Compare button to see the difference.

Bill G
I wasn't going to do anything today - so far, I'm on schedule, :)
 

Bazz02

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Re: Pointless Megavoice Demo
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2013, 12:47:37 PM »
Bill,
Thx for the reply.
Yep that kinda works but all the nuances are from midi C6 note upwards.
You cant even fool it by using the octave key on the right hand.
Not sure why these are style based cause to try to put a solo into a style
dosent make sense.
Anyway Ive created some styles using a normal bass sound then changed it to a megavoice
and changed the relavent note in StyleCreator/edit to get the bass slide(eg C6 C7 etc.)
But guitar sounds are a nightmare.
Whoever programmed the demo,s needs a pay rise.:)
Thx Barry
BTW enjoying the forum
 

Online MBedesem

Re: Pointless Megavoice Demo
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2013, 01:19:45 PM »
Barry:

This procedure used to work... from the PSR FAQ: (http://www.psrtutorial.com/lessons/faq/PSRFAQ.htm )

F.40.   How to create Megavoices guitar effects with the keyboard.

1.    Select a mega guitar voice, e.g. distortion.
2.    Select 'Upper Octave  '
3.    Play the highest C note for slide effect
4.    Press 'transpose ' five times.
5.    You will now get five different guitar effects on the upper five notes.

In the later instruments, some of the styles use a different coding to control style parts where by the notes recorded are not the notes played but codes relating to the fret and string. There is no documentation on this.

What we know about styles is here:  http://www.wierzba.homepage.t-online.de/stylefiles.htm

Regards,

Michael
Michael P. Bedesem
mpb@vermontel.net
http://psrtutorial.com/MB/bedesem.html
Tyros 5
 

Bazz02

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Re: Pointless Megavoice Demo
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2013, 04:02:04 PM »
Mike,
Thx for the reply.
Yamaha giving us megavoices should have made it easier for the novice to access the extras.
A simple key switch to access the extra effects.
Ive tried the octave switch(right hand) to trigger these, dosent work as its only midi notes C6
and transposing the keyboard dosent do it.
Look guys not complaining really love the keyboard but really Yamaha dont include
these Megavoice Demos .
Or put it in BOLD WRITING in the manual What you are listening to is very very hard to achieve.
Take Care.
 

Online MBedesem

Re: Pointless Megavoice Demo
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2013, 04:49:38 PM »
I just tried Slap Amp on the T4 by going to Mixing Console/ Panel Voices/ Tune and selecting Octave=  2.

There are lots of sound effects there. You perhaps can hear more by adding to the transpose ...

Regards,

Michael

Michael P. Bedesem
mpb@vermontel.net
http://psrtutorial.com/MB/bedesem.html
Tyros 5
 

Offline EileenL

Re: Pointless Megavoice Demo
« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2013, 03:53:18 AM »
Hi Bazz,
  Welcome. Megga voices were never intended to be used by players. They were created to give more authenticity to the sound of the styles. There are lots of normal guitars on the keyboard to play and are all very good.

Bazz02

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Re: Pointless Megavoice Demo
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2013, 12:48:56 PM »
Eileen,
Thx for the reply.
I understand fully your point.
Why not demo a style featuring a megavoice instead of a demo
that sounds as if it is achievable live.

Just my thoughts.

Cheers Barry
 

Offline tyrosaurus

Re: Pointless Megavoice Demo
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2013, 03:39:27 PM »
Hi Barry,

Here is an idea that might help you to make some use of the 'effects' embedded in MegaVoices.

Record them as multipads.  If your keyboard has a MultiPad editor, then you can do this easily on the keyboard without needing a computer.   Just select a MegaVoice of interest for R1, go into the MultiPad editor, select 'NEW BANK' and record just one note for a couple of seconds, say C3 but it doesn't really matter which.

Now tab to the EDIT page for that pad, and use the controls on the left hand side of the display to move down to the line containing the note event.

If necessary move the 'focus' so that the note value is active, then if you adjust the value upwards using the DATA buttons or the Data Wheel, you will hear the note played each time  the value changes.  Up to note B5 you should just hear the same variation of the voice at increasing frequency because you are not adjusting the velocity.  

Once you get to note C6 you should start hearing the effects.  The actual number of different effects seems to vary with the voice. If you find that an effect cuts off short, you may need to increase the note length in the right hand column.  If you find an affect that you like, adjust the velocity and possibly the channel volume (CC7) which should be earlier in the list if you have the 'FILTER' set to include CC events. 

Now, repeat with the other three pads if you want to and remembering to set both 'REPEAT' and 'CHORD MATCH' to OFF, save the bank.


The above will not make the Mega Voices more playable live, but at least you can make use of some of the effects by recording them as multipads, which you can trigger perhaps more conveniently that by transposing the keyboard. You can then trigger them on demand similar to the switch activated SA2 effects on a T4 although unlike these, the effect will always trigger as soon as you press the button and wont wait for a note on or note off like some of the real T4 SA2 effects.  

Just out of interest you can also hear the various variations of the voice in each of the different velocity 'ranges' by leaving the note value at say C3, and moving the 'focus' to the Velocity column which is to the right of the note value one.  If you now set this to 1 then increase it you will hear the different voice variations as you cross the velocity switch points for each variation.  It is probably best if you do this in conjunction with the 'MegaVoice Map' in the Data List for your keyboard so that you can see the description of the sound variation.

Regards

Ian
« Last Edit: May 12, 2013, 03:53:07 PM by tyrosaurus »
 

Bazz02

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Re: Pointless Megavoice Demo
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2013, 11:51:14 AM »
Thx Ian,
Some nice tips ,had already used the velocity column to hear the C6 effects.
Enjoying the keyboard.

Thx Barry
 

Offline ade2408

Re: Pointless Megavoice Demo
« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2016, 04:31:24 AM »
Hello guys.
HAVE YOU STYLES ARCHIVES VHYT OTS AND MEGAVOICES TO THE KEYBOARD YAMAHA PSR S650?
THANKS
 

Re: Pointless Megavoice Demo
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2017, 06:36:00 AM »
Thats what the superarticulation voices are for. They use the megavoices but use an algorithm to add the slides and taps, and if you attach a pedal to pedal 2, you can set the pedal to super articulation to trigger body tap on the acoustics and slide on the electrics.