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Genos Styles/OTS/Multi Pads / Re: volume settings by part

« Last post by overover on Today at 01:10:46 AM »

The default is either 64 or 100, I forget which, but I think it's 64; but when you change it to 127, everything sounds like it's being hit as hard as possible. If I'm correct about 64 being the default value, then lower values (below 64) with subdue the notes somewhat, and higher values (above 64). I think the Genos 2 style control actually uses an expression range so that you don't get instrument voices dropping out completely, they're just played more softly ...

Hi Mark,

If you talk about MIDI Expression values here, this is not correct, but Bogdan is correct: Adding a MIDI Expression event (Ctrl #11, equivalent to CC #11) with a value of 127 at a specific position (in a Style or MIDI file on a specific channel), this does not change the current volume of that channel's voice.

The Channel Volume is generally set by a Ctrl #7 (CC #7) event, usually only once in the first measure of a Style/MIDI file. This Channel Volume can be temporarily reduced by adding Ctrl #11 (CC #11) values (down to 0 with "Ctrl #11, value 0"). "Ctrl #11, value 127" will increase the volume on this channel back to the volume defined by the last preceding Ctrl #7 event.

What you probably meant above is MIDI Velocity. Each Note On event has a specific Velocity value ("playing strength"). But there is actually no “defalt” value here. Most voices sound louder and "harder" as the Velocity increases (i.e. they then have more treble frequencies). But this doesn't necessarily have to be the case, it depends on how the voice was programmed. With Mega Voices, completely different sounds/samples are played depending on the Velocity of the notes played. The possible Velocity range goes from 1 (normally inaudible for normal voices) to 127 (loudest/strongest/hardest for normal voices). Velocity 0 is equivalent to a Note Off event.


Best regards,
Chris

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Tyros 4 (SFF2) / Re: pitch bend

« Last post by mikf on Yesterday at 11:56:38 PM »

Maybe since he has already opened it up, he could remove the wheel, manually turn the potentiometer shaft and see if he can find a ‘zero’ position. If that works it might indicate the wheel (or the shaft) has moved and a fix can be worked out. If that doesn’t work it indicates the position of the shaft is not the problem and he has to look elsewhere in the system for the cause.
Mike

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Genos Styles/OTS/Multi Pads / Re: volume settings by part

« Last post by Amwilburn on Yesterday at 10:22:31 PM »

The default is either 64 or 100, I forget which, but I think it's 64; but when you change it to 127, everything sounds like it's being hit as hard as possible. If I'm correct about 64 being the default value, then lower values (below 64) with subdue the notes somewhat, and higher values (above 64). I think the Genos 2 style control actually uses an expression range so that you don't get instrument voices dropping out completely, they're just played more softly

Which doesn't answer the OP's question, which is:

in your style, during the crescendo (ending? INtro?) subdivide according to the lenght (so if it's a 1 bar fill, and you want to hit the cresc *before* the last tick count, let's say you want it on the 4th beat, then subdivide from 1,1 (bar 1, beat 1, tick 0) to 1,4 and I'd use 1/8th notes to give yourself a 'ramp' of 7 volume changes. For example 1.1.0000 exp0; 1.1.960 exp 21; 1.2.0000 exp 42; 1.2.960 exp 64; 1.3.000 exp 85, etc

It might not be enough, might need to subdivide to 16th notes and use a ramp of 13 volume changes.

On the other hand, if you're using an 8 bar intro, and you want to go from 0 to full at the beginning of the last bar (start of bar you now have a ramp of 16 if you add a exp control every half note

Mark

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DGX Portable Grand Pianos (DGX 620,630,640,650,660,670) / Re: 10 Reasons to own DGX-670

« Last post by mikf on Yesterday at 09:05:17 PM »

Adding a couple of quality power monitors will improve the sound to terrific levels, and for only about $100 -200 so the package is still a bargain.
Mike

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Tyros 4 (SFF2) / Re: pitch bend

« Last post by BogdanH on Yesterday at 08:17:46 PM »

hello Mark,
If I understood correctly, (the problem is) if the wheel is in center position, the pitch is still slightly off. Maybe the wheel doesn't return in exact center position.. maybe the hole in the wheel (where potentiometer shaft comes in) is a little worn out... It's hard to really know because of translation.

Bogdan

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Genos - General / Re: Genos Registrations sound change

« Last post by Amwilburn on Yesterday at 08:07:58 PM »

Actually the T5 introduced a new balance slider, Keyboard (which changed R1, R2, R3 simultaneously) and the Genos removed this slider (then added the functionality back in via a later operating system update) and I suspect that's what you're dealing with. So make sure you G1 has the 2.13 os, then go into your faders and make one of the "Keyboard" and then when you're changing registration settings. The Genos 2 added this fader back in due to this!


Midi files on arrangers *can* contain a snapshot of the settings at that moment, so yes, midi files created on the T5 could also later your "keyboard" fader.

Mark

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Tyros 4 (SFF2) / Re: pitch bend

« Last post by Amwilburn on Yesterday at 07:59:28 PM »

Thank you for your answers. I apologise for the translator's mistakes. The pitch bend wheel is not broken. I downloaded the pacyometer from Germany according to the Tyros4 service manual. I changed the potionciometer, unfortunately nothing has changed. For over 5 years my Tyros4 has been running perfectly, very well protected. Unfortunately last year the pitch bend broke. I hope to get more answers in this forum, thank you if you can help.
Rolandas

You said the "pitch bend wheel is not broken" and "last year the pitch bend broke" in the same paragraph...? So it's not very clear. You also said " I don't have a pitch bend wheel" but you have a Tyros 4, which most certainly does have a pitch bend wheel.

If the wheel is returning to centre, physically? It's probably not the spring. If it's always 'bending' the pitch, then it could be the potentiometer. If you don't want to get it repaired, you could set pitch bend range to 0, if you're not going to use your pitch bend at all.

Mark

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Genos - General / Re: Genos Registrations sound change

« Last post by Lee Batchelor on Yesterday at 07:47:57 PM »

Michael is correct. You need to load the MIDI files into a DAW or some similar program that displays what MIDI messages are being triggered at the beginning of the affected tracks. Registrations memorize all settings made inside the Genos. They have no affect on MIDI messages embedded in individual tracks. They are merely a series of pointers to events that happen elsewhere.

Perhaps someone else can chime in on this to make sure I have the theory correct.

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PSR-SX900/SX700/SX600 / Re: AKX10

« Last post by Amwilburn on Yesterday at 07:08:44 PM »

Well the AKX10 isn't meant to compete with an sx900 (not even an sx600, in fact). It *does* appear to be in the ballpark of the PSRs650 or s670, but with a very slick PSRSX inspired touch screen. It appears to be really good for the money, and if your Yamaha was a PSRs900, PSRs710, or PSRs650 or s670, I would say the AKX would actually be an improvement of sorts; but you would lose out on that huge, huge Yamaha style database, especially since the sx900 is at least Revo compatible, which none of the other PSR's (or Medeli's) are.

Mark

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DGX Portable Grand Pianos (DGX 620,630,640,650,660,670) / Re: 10 Reasons to own DGX-670

« Last post by Amwilburn on Yesterday at 06:53:15 PM »

Yes, the DGX670 represents the pinnacle of bang for the buck Yamaha arranger (it's essentially a stripped down CVP701, which launched at nearly $3600 CAD in matte black, just over $4k for the PE (and that was 11 years ago, it's gone up since) so the DGX represents an incredible bang for the buck. Yes, the DGX670 keys are noticeably better than even the DGX660 keys.

There is one flaw, that I find odd nobody here has encountered (but all of our customers noticed, and I simply tell them to use headphones or *don't* play at full volume if you're playing fortissimo), but the amplifiers aren't powerful enough for the speakers. So playing at full volume, even *just* the piano, if you play fortissimo, the speakers will crackle.  That, and the lower CVP701 /PSRs770/PSRsx600/DGX670 sound library compared to the higher end PS500 (and speakers powerful enough to play at any volume, any strength, and they don't crackle), which shares the same sound library as the PSRs970/975/PSRsx700/CVP705/CSP1xx series, which is a huge step up from the previous (DGX670) sound library. But it also costs nearly double the 670, so there's that.

Mark