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Genos Styles/OTS/Multi Pads / Re: Midifile to style - Genos
« Last post by Gunnar Jonny on Today at 11:04:30 AM »
Vali, you can report the bug to Klaus, he will probably apreciate it, and fix it if possible.
Genos Styles/OTS/Multi Pads / Re: Midifile to style - Genos
« Last post by valimaties on Today at 09:59:40 AM »
Yes, it is running (with bugs...)... the last Yamaha keyboard for SFF2 is still Tyros 4.

I have checked some of parameters, and it not read correctly (ie: KeyMap read incorrect in CASM section)
As a bug, the Style window closed unexpectedly when I changed from SFF to SFF2.

PS: Sorry for off-topic :) .

Will some of the voices work on the Tyros5?


Unfortunately, no, because:
1. I've used voices & DSP that are on Genos only (like Kino Strings);
2. Voices with the same name on Tyros5 have been resampled on Genos (like Acoustic Bass and a lot of GM voices as Shamisen, Koto, English Horn, Violin, Flute, etc.), so they would probably sound different on previous Tyros series.


Will some of the voices work on the Tyros5?

Tyros 4 (SFF2) / Re: Display sheet muic on T4
« Last post by JollyJim on Today at 09:00:46 AM »
Hi John,

Thanks again, understood and appreciated.

So sorry to hear you are bored with the blue skies and high temperature,

We English , are a hardy race and much more enjoy the damp, grey,
cold, wet, windy flooding of  autumn and winter which is just starting
and will continue until May or so....

So enjoy your summer whilst we dig out are cardigans...

Thanks again John,,,best wishes - Jim
Genos - General / Re: Genos Digital Out
« Last post by frozzers on Today at 08:33:06 AM »
Thanks Rainer.

Pretty much as I'd feared!

Genos - General / Re: Wherz my audio file?
« Last post by valimaties on Today at 08:27:15 AM »
Press on white Song gateway button.
Press on red square and it will open the location where last file (loaded file) is stored. Look in the down-left corner (path shown) to see where is your file located.

Be sure that "Audio" not "Midi" to be selected...

(this picture is from Reference manual, from the List creation, but is almost the same with selection of an audio file in play mode. You have to be sure Audio is selected because that little option button will make difference between audio files (wav, mp3) and midi files (mid, kar, etc.))

Thanks Jim😀
Genos - General / Wherz my audio file?
« Last post by Stevengale on Today at 07:05:24 AM »
Still trying to figure out how the recording section works on the Genos. I recorded an QUICK AUDIO segment and it looks like it gets saved automatically when STOP is hit. I can then hit PLAY and hear the song but if I leave that page, where the heck do I find my audio file later when I want to hear it again?

I saw those audio files somewhere before but cant find what page of the menus it's located..  help?
Rumney, - Learning to play by ear was my guess from your question.
Without putting down the lady on the video, I have played and known hundreds of real musicians who played professionally by ear and while all understood the circle of 5ths, to my knowledge none used it or thought about it either actively while playing or while learning to play, by ear.
 If you want to learn to play by ear, it will be much more useful to understand common chord progressions by the number system, which is key independent. The number system is simple, just each chord based on the note of the scale - so in C, chord 1 is Cmaj, chord 2 is D minor, etc. Look up chord numbering systems on the net, but don't at this time get too deeply into the more sophisticated versions like the Nashville numbering system where many accents and variants can be added for more advanced players.
So the simplest chord progression using the number system is 1;4; 5;1. Chord 2 and 4 are similar, so another variant is 1;2;5;1. Another very common variant is 1;6;2;5;1. ie in key of C it would be C, Amin, Dmin, G7, C.
Those three chord progressions above cover 80 % of the popular songs written for at least 80% - and often 100% -of the whole song. Start by nailing these, and then add songs which have small excursions from these like chord 3, or making chord 2 or chord 3 major instead of minor. You will soon get to hear them coming by ear.
Don't worry about the relationships on a circle of 5ths. The secret to playing by ear is to start with a small amount of knowledge like the 3 chord progressions I have given above, then build on it by experimenting, a bit at a time. As you advance, you might find the circle of 5ths useful to understand for more complex songs, but frankly, by the time you find it useful, you are unlikely to really need visual aid, because the relationships will just make it will just make obvious.
Later, learn and introduce diminished chords by realizing another common device is to slip in a diminished to lead through or add color to one of the above progressions. Try to find the right chords by are, then look at fake books to see how what you thought compares with the right chords, and how real songs progress,. And instead of seeing the chords as individual things in a song, learn to see them as sequences of numbers, and you will then start to understand how most music is 90% repeating patterns. Combining this with listening to yourself and anticipating the sound of a chord in a sequence is what playing by ear is all about.


Thank you Mike - a well reasoned reply which I really appreciate. Now I understand why a song is counted in 1 2 3 - itís a chord progression (only joking) :) I will have a good look at the chord numbering systems on the net - thanks again.
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