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Genos YEM & Expansion Packs / Re: Indian Kit in Genos is Missing!
« Last post by overover on Yesterday at 11:48:52 PM »
I also would like to apologize for giving the wrong inform about Seller's Keyboard Correction he has s975 and NOT s970 Sorry.

Hi rozinalalani1954,

that doesn't matter, because (as I mentioned in reply #6) the same Preset "IndianKit" is present on S970 / S770 / S975 / S775. ;)

... but, unforunately, NOT on GENOS. :(


Best regards,
Chris
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Genos YEM & Expansion Packs / Re: Indian Kit in Genos is Missing!
« Last post by valimaties on Yesterday at 11:36:21 PM »
Vali,

..I wish Yamaha would update YEM so we could "LOCK" the LSB on 3rd party packs so they won't change if we delete them then Import them at a later time.

 :)

Joe H

Joe, I think it will not be done ever. It is hard to know if some pack was loaded and deleted and reloaded. I can think about what you are trying to say, but I don't think it could be done.

Let's take a real example:
I load and 3rd party pack (named "X"). I use some voices from it in some styles, but for some reasons I will delete it and load another pack on the same LSB position (because I don't have LSB positions anymore - hard to happening, but suppose). What will happening with my styles? Will not play correctly anymore. Ok, let's say I will not use them anymore. After some months I realize I need those style and I have to  load 3rd party pack again. (after I deleted some other packs, etc) . How do I know if that pack was loaded before? I (YEM) have to save a history with packs names or packs checksum or something like that? hmmm , hard to see it implemented in YEM ;)

PS: A 3rd party pack, which uses MSB other than 62 and 63 has nothing to care about ;) they will take the same rules as Yamaha's packs, because if they don't uses MSB 62 or 63 it means they have already been "registered" in Yamaha's databases ;)

PS2: I don't think Yamaha has been used even 30% of MSB-LSB combinations :D

PS3: While I pressed the preview button, I've saw rozi's post. I think they gived you an evasive response, which already you knew ... I think all of Yamaha users knows that if a voice is not present in a style/midi that means the voice is not present on the keyboard on the MSB-LSB-PC position set in style. This is an elementary thing (I think  ::) ). If you cannot find the MSB-LSB-PC on your keyboard, that means you have to install that voice by yourself, finding it on an extra pack. Of course, it may be that voice can not be found because it is a preset voice only, which is (for someone) a disaster, but you can try to make your own voice by finding samples on the internet and use YEM to build the voice.

Regards,
Vali
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Genos YEM & Expansion Packs / Re: Indian Kit in Genos is Missing!
« Last post by rozinalalani1954 on Yesterday at 11:32:55 PM »
I also would like to apologize for giving the wrong inform about Seller's Keyboard Correction he has s975 and NOT s970 Sorry.
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Genos YEM & Expansion Packs / Re: Indian Kit in Genos is Missing!
« Last post by rozinalalani1954 on Yesterday at 11:24:12 PM »
Thanks Everyone showing the concerns about my issue. So when i told the provider it is not playing right in Genos below is the explaination he gave it to me.

Rhythm in keyboards is called Kit. There are different kits in a keyboard. We checked Genos Data Sheet pdf manual and found that there is no Indian Kit and no Arabic kit from which most of the Indian styles/rhythm is made. Style files are not voices and only computer generated binary codes or instructions which musician feeds in the keyboard and save for later playing. Keyboard built-in  kits understand these instructions and produce rhythm or voice. If there is no Built-in Drum Kit available in the keyboard then no voice will be produced by the style which is made in other keyboard model. Hope you understand.
Genos and Our keyboard Yamaha PSR S975 Drum kits list is given below:

DRUM KITS LIST Yamaha Genos  - See attached Genos pdf on Page 8 for available drum kits.
VocalBeatbox
PopLatinKit2Comp
EDM Kit
80sPopKit
80sR&B Kit
DubstepKit
JazzBrushKit
ElectroKit
TrapKit
SchlagerKit
BassDrumKit
RealDrumKit
RealBrushesKit
AcousticKit
RockKit
StudioKit
PowerKit1
PowerKit2
RoomKit
JazzKit
StandardKit
AnalogT8Kit
AnalogT9Kit
BreakKit
HipHopKit
DanceKit
AnalogKit
HouseKit
DrumMachine
HitKit
ReverseBD Kit
TurkishKit
CubanKit
PopLatinKit1
PopLatinKit2
SymphonyKit
NewSFX Kit1
NewSFX Kit2
GospelAdLibs
VocalEffectsKit

DRUM KIT List YAMMAHA PSR S975 - See attached Yamaha PSR S970 page 7.  Our Yamaha karaoke styles are made with the following Yamaha S975 kits.   

REAL DRUMS
REAL BRUSHES
HOUSE KIT
DRUM MACHINE
CYMBAL KIT
NEW SFX KIT 1
NEW SFX KIT2
BASS DRUM KIT
REVERSE BD KIT
ACOUSTIC KIT
ROCK KIT
POWER KIT1
POWER KIT2
BRUSH KIT
ANALOG T8 KIT
ANALOGT9 KIT
BREAK KIT
HIP HOP KIT
DANCE KIT
STUDIO KIT
HIT KIT
JAZZ KIT
POP LATIN KIT
ROOM KIT
ELECTRO KIT
ANALOG KIT
SYMPHONY KIT
CUBAN KIT
TURKISH KIT
INDIAN KIT
ARABIC KIT
ARABIC MIX KIT
CHINESE KIT
CHINESE MIX KIT
NOISES KIT
SFX KIT1
SEA SHORE
HELICOPTER
APPLAUSE 1
APPLAUSE 2
GUN SHOT
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Forum How To... / Lyrics and score display as amazing of Yamaha
« Last post by Spring Bui on Yesterday at 11:23:03 PM »
Hi everyone,

I am the new user of genos. Would anyone please show me how to make the display on genos screen and on external monitor the score and lyrics as Yamaha did on its demo.?

Thank you very much for your help.

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Genos YEM & Expansion Packs / Re: Indian Kit in Genos is Missing!
« Last post by Joe H on Yesterday at 10:56:11 PM »
Vali,

Yes, I have the EDP too. Thanks for the clarification... we have a lot to learn about Yamaha rules! I'm well aware that the Yamaha packs MSB and LSB are FIXED nd we can't change them.  I wish Yamaha would update YEM so we could "LOCK" the LSB on 3rd party packs so they won't change if we delete them then Import them at a later time.

 :)

Joe H
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Genos YEM & Expansion Packs / Re: Indian Kit in Genos is Missing!
« Last post by valimaties on Yesterday at 10:52:52 PM »
An Yamaha pack (not protected :D ), when you will load it on YEM it will take the first free LSB position. You can change it, but nothing will happening with voices inside ;) . None of the voices will change its MSB, or LSB, or PC number. Even if you will change the position of voices inside pack, nothing will change in files structure.
An Yamaha's pack can be made from multiple packs. As we now, there are a lot of voices which you can find them on multiple packs. The same voices, the same position (MSB, LSB, PC).

The LSB of the loaded pack in YEM is that called "Panel" position. To know which voice from which pack has been selected. But the address of the voice is the same , for the pack A and the pack B.

I bought some styles from camaro24.pl . They have used Euro Dance pack. They had installed its EDP on some LSB position. It was not my LSB position, but all styles has loaded the voices correctly ;)

Regards,
Vali
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Genos YEM & Expansion Packs / Re: Indian Kit in Genos is Missing!
« Last post by Joe H on Yesterday at 10:40:23 PM »
My mistake,  you are right... all the Yamaha expansion packs use a different MSB than 063 - 062 (unlike 3rd party packs) even though they are installed in YEM.

The reason I didn't catch that is because I have only 1 Yamaha pack installed out 10. I actually have about 30 packs loaded in YEM... only 1 is a Yamaha pack.

 :)   ;)

Joe H
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Genos YEM & Expansion Packs / Re: Indian Kit in Genos is Missing!
« Last post by overover on Yesterday at 08:30:09 PM »
Chris,

I wasn't referring to the Indian drum kits I was referring to the Normal Voices.  As you know, the MSB is 063 and 062, but the LSB is whatever is assigned in YEM.  I've had this problem before with styles.

My point is that if the MIDI was recorded with a different LSB, then the drum kits that the OP has in stalled, then they will not sound when he selects them.

Joe H

Hi Joe,

the drum voices in those "Indian" Packs are NOT in the CUSTOM VOICE address range (MSB 062 for Custom Drum Voices, MSB 063 for Custom Normal Voices), but they have fixed MSB and LSB values, just like voices from Yamaha PREMIUM Packs.

For this reason, it doesn't matter in what order those Indian Packs are installed in YEM or which LSB (from the CUSTOM VOICE address range) the Packs actually have.


The OP was talking about the internal Preset drum kit "IndianKit" of the S970 (which is missing on Genos). So I recommended to install the drum kits of the Indian Expansion Packs and revoice the Drum Parts of the MIDI files with the Expansion kits (and decide "by hearing" if one of those kits is matching). :)


Best regards,
Chris
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Genos Styles/OTS/Multi Pads / Re: Shots & Holds
« Last post by Luluc on Yesterday at 08:19:01 PM »
OK for the sustain pedal, but in  a hold we have to sustain in the same time the bass, the guitar , the piano and some other voices depending on the style played AND we need to get a decay. that is why basses, guitars and pianos are very used to do that.
As it has been already mentionned, this feature is really missing. That would give a more pro performance as a live band would play.
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