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Genos (12 Boards) => Genos Styles/OTS/Multi Pads => Topic started by: Tommarr on October 11, 2022, 08:33:25 PM

Title: SFF! files
Post by: Tommarr on October 11, 2022, 08:33:25 PM

I just bought a Genos - having fun!
I also own a CGP1000.
I thought that my grand uses SFF1 type files, that I could use that type that I got via the Forum.
When I attempt to open these files on the grand I get "STOP disc error"

Is it the way that I am saving the files to a thumbdrive (folders?) or will CGP1000 just not play them?

THanks.

Title: Re: SFF! files
Post by: Toril S on October 11, 2022, 08:43:32 PM

If the file name is too long the keyboard will not read it. Try to shorten the file name. It may also be that the file is too large, there are restrictions on older keyboards regarding file size.

Title: Re: SFF! files
Post by: Tommarr on October 11, 2022, 09:02:34 PM

Do you mean change Charleston to Charles, for example?
Are .sst, .pcs, .bcs SFF1 type files?

Thanks!

Title: Re: SFF! files
Post by: Toril S on October 11, 2022, 09:32:04 PM

Not sure. Try changing the ending to.sty. The name cannot be longer than 50 letters/numbers in all. So yes, if it is a long file name you can try shorten it.
Also keep in mind that if you have an AFF1 style on your Genos, and you for instance edit the OTS and save the style, the style will automatically be converted to SFF2, and cannot be used on a keyboard that only plays SFF1.

Title: Re: SFF! files
Post by: johan on October 12, 2022, 08:56:54 AM

Styles that are saved on a keyboard that supports SFF2 (like genos) are always converted to SFF2, even if you did not change them on the keyboard. So best is to check if the styles are in SFF1 (the file extension does not give an indication on the SFF format). See the following post for checking the SFF format:
https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,59034.msg456975.html#msg456975

Title: Re: SFF! files
Post by: Jørgen on October 13, 2022, 02:28:58 PM

Hi

To check format: http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/software/sff/index.htm
To change SSF2 to SFF1: http://www.jososoft.dk/yamaha/software/sf2c/index.htm

Regards
Jørgen

Title: Re: SFF! files
Post by: overover on October 13, 2022, 03:08:42 PM

Hi Tommarr,

If it is only about a few styles, you can also simply open the relevant style files on the computer in a text editor (e.g. in Windows with right-click > Open with... > Editor or Notepad). Pretty much at the beginning of each file you will see either SFF1 or SFF2. (The important thing is to close the file again without making any changes.)

When dealing with a relatively large number of styles files, I recommend using the PC (Windows) program "PSR Style Database" by Peter Wierzba. You can use it to display many different style details at the same time (up to 20 columns). Of course there is also a column for the style format.
>>> http://www.wierzba.homepage.t-online.de/psd/psdmain.htm


Best regards,
Chris

Title: Re: SFF! files
Post by: overover on October 13, 2022, 03:25:30 PM

Quote from: Tommarr on October 11, 2022, 09:02:34 PM

... Are .sst, .pcs, .bcs SFF1 type files?

Thanks!

Hi Tommarr,

The extension (e.g. ".sst" says nothing about whether it is an SFF1 or SFF2 (= SFF GE) style, but the extension designates the style type (e.g. ".sst" means "session style"). Here is a list of the Yamaha style types I know:

.sty .STY = Standard Style
.bcs .BCS = Basic Style
.prs .PRS = Pro Style
.sst .SST = Session Style
.fps .FPS = Free Play Style
.aus .AUS = Audio Style
.pst .PST = Pianist Style (solo)
.pcs .PCS = Piano Combo Style
.scp .SCP = DJ Style (must be renamed to “.STY” for older models!)

Hope this helps!

Best regards,
Chris