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Title: Fingered and Multifinger playing
Post by: freeplay on July 10, 2021, 09:00:48 AM
I have a question about registrations.

When i switch to playing registrations which many of you have so kindly put on this site the keyboard goes from multifinger, which i play all the time to fingered. i have to keep going into function to put it back. Can anyone tell me if this is normal or am i doing something wrong.
I don't do my own registrations.

Regards margaret
Title: Re: Fingered and Multifinger playing
Post by: Normanfernandez on July 10, 2021, 09:06:41 AM
The Registration is set to Fingered, Resave the registration to Multi Finger.
Title: Re: Fingered and Multifinger playing
Post by: jwyvern on July 10, 2021, 10:46:29 AM
You can stop registrations from changing fingering by firstly setting the Fingering on the keyboard to what you want, and then go to Parameter Lock and put a tick in the Fingering box.
John
Title: Re: Fingered and Multifinger playing
Post by: overover on July 11, 2021, 12:17:04 AM
You can stop registrations from changing fingering by firstly setting the Fingering on the keyboard to what you want, and then go to Parameter Lock and put a tick in the Fingering box.
John

Hi freeplay,

Here is a small addition to John's tip: Even if a checkmark is set for "Fingering" in the Parameter Lock ([FUNCTION] > Utility> Config1 > 3 Parameter Lock), so that Registrations cannot change the Fingering, you can still change the Fingering manually if needed. (To quickly bring up the Chord Fingering display, press [Direct Access] > [ACMP] button.)

The same applies to the checkmark for "Split Point" in the Parameter Lock: You can still manually adjust the Split Points, but they can no longer be changed by Registrations. (To quickly bring up the Split Point setting display, press [Direct Access] > [Sync Start] button.)


Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Fingered and Multifinger playing
Post by: freeplay on July 11, 2021, 01:04:49 AM
Hi
Thank you all for yor advice.Will give it a try

Cheers Margaret
Title: Re: Fingered and Multifinger playing
Post by: freeplay on July 12, 2021, 01:44:07 AM
Hi.
I can't see anywhere to put a tick.Theres just arrow up or down to change the fingering. Looked on line at the reference manuel but that show anywhere either.

Cheers Margaret
Title: Re: Fingered and Multifinger playing
Post by: overover on July 12, 2021, 01:53:35 AM
Hi.
I can't see anywhere to put a tick.Theres just arrow up or down to change the fingering. Looked on line at the reference manuel but that show anywhere either.

Cheers Margaret

We talked about the "Parameter Lock" display (where you can tick the boxes "Fingering" and "Split Point" to prevent these settings from changing by Registrations). Please read my last post carefully again.

Information on the "Utility > Config1" display, in which the "Parameter Lock" function is located, can be found in the Tyros5 Reference Manual on pages 126/127.

By the way: The box "Master EQ" should always be ticked in "Parameter Lock". The remaining boxes (other than "Fingering" and "Split Point") are usually unticked.

I attached a picture of the Parameter Lock display on Tyros4. In principle, it looks the same on Tyros5. :)


Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Fingered and Multifinger playing
Post by: freeplay on July 12, 2021, 04:37:27 AM

Hi Chris

Thank you for the screen shot,that helped me a lot. Dont seem to understand things like i use to ( seniors moments )

kind regards margaret
Title: Re: Fingered and Multifinger playing
Post by: alanclare on July 12, 2021, 10:36:32 AM
An alternative is to simply ensure that oneís startup registration uses the fingering that you prefer.

Incidentally, why is Single Finger so named when apart from those instances when just a major chord is required, we can play minor and seventh chords with two keys, and even minor sevenths with three keys?

And what is the point of the Fingered option, when that is available with Multi Fingered fingering as well as the convenience of Single Fingering if required?

Alan
Title: Re: Fingered and Multifinger playing
Post by: mikf on July 12, 2021, 11:30:45 AM
ÖÖ what is the point of the Fingered option, when that is available with Multi Fingered fingering as well as the convenience of Single Fingering if required?
Alan, you are largely, correct and this is the reason why multi fingered is the default setting on all new arrangers. But there are minor differences. In fingered mode you donít get unintended chord changes if you make a mistake and either hit two adjacent keys or just hit one key ahead of the others. And when you intentionally hit three adjacent keys in fingered you can stop all the accompaniment except drums. In mutifingered three adjacent keys produces a different chord. So you could say fingered mode gives the player who is confident in their chord playing slightly more control, while the multi fingered gives the less confident player more fall back options to avoid disasters.
Mike
Title: Re: Fingered and Multifinger playing
Post by: Fred Smith on July 12, 2021, 12:56:25 PM
An alternative is to simply ensure that oneís startup registration uses the fingering that you prefer.

Itís not that simple, Alan.

Yes, everyone should have a startup registration which sets up the keyboard they way they prefer.

But itís of little use when subsequent registrations change the fingering on you.

Thatís why Parameter Lock if the right solution here.

Cheers,
Fred
Title: Re: Fingered and Multifinger playing
Post by: alanclare on July 12, 2021, 12:58:57 PM
Gottit! Thanks Fred.

Alan
Title: Re: Fingered and Multifinger playing
Post by: alanclare on July 12, 2021, 04:29:42 PM
...and if nothing else it's made me look into yet another hidden corner of the arranger's toolkit - Parameter Lock.

Alan
Title: Re: Fingered and Multifinger playing
Post by: freeplay on July 13, 2021, 02:02:59 AM
Hi Guys
Thank you for your info on fingered chords.  I only play very eaxy chords. G , C, F (3 fingered) anc b flat, E flat
(  single fingered).
Sti.l havd a llt lf fun though
More questions may follow

Cheers Margaret