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Title: Music rest replacement
Post by: Stratcat on February 11, 2021, 11:18:42 AM
Good morning everyone,
After starting with the Psr 2100, the S900, s950, s970 now the sx900 I am finally taking the leap upwards to a yamaha flagship. The Genos will soon be on its way to me! A lightly used Genos.
Am I excited? You bet your sweet bippy I am.
One thing missing from the deal however is the music rest/music stand.
I need help in finding one for purchase.
I will appreciate if any know how and from where I can get one.
Thank you
Jim
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: EileenL on February 11, 2021, 03:42:46 PM
Hi Jim,
Yamaha or a Yamaha Dealer is the best place.
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: Stratcat on February 11, 2021, 03:50:01 PM
Yes I agree Eileen,
I doubt I’ll find one except to contact Yamaha itself.
If anyone has a ph number for a Yamaha rep here in the states I’d appreciate that
Thank you
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: Stratcat on February 11, 2021, 03:51:43 PM
I’m wondering if Steve Demming (I think is his name) would be the man to try to reach
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: Dave Shively on February 11, 2021, 05:18:18 PM
Hi all,
I use a regular music stand in front of my SX900.  Holds heavy music books and can read music just fine.  Beats the flimsy plastic stand (attached to the keyboard) that comes with the keyboard.  Just my thoughts.
Stay safe,
Dave Shively ;D
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: Bill on February 11, 2021, 06:14:51 PM
Most Genos retailers in the UK have them in stock, no reason why the USA should be different.

Yamaha Genos Music Rest ZW7731Z0

Bill
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: Al Ram on February 11, 2021, 06:35:45 PM
Have you tried to google it . . . . ?

I did this google search and found some options . . . it looks like ZW7731Z0 is the part or model number

". . . . . . . .Yamaha Genos music rest ZW7731Z0 . . . . . "

Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: Rick D. on February 11, 2021, 06:52:17 PM
Looks like he will need the brackets too!

Rick D.
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: alec_in_france on February 13, 2021, 09:55:11 AM
The stand from my Yamaha P155 piano is exactly the same as the Genos stand - although of course you will need the brackets.
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: muzicman147 on February 13, 2021, 03:40:49 PM
Music rest from the Tyros 4 is exactly the same as well. But you will need the Genos brackets they are totally different from Tyros.
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: Stratcat on February 13, 2021, 08:11:51 PM
Thank you all for your replies.
As I have never had the opportunity to see anything above the PSR line I know nothing of these brackets either. Do they need to be attached vs coming already attached?
I haven’t received the keyboard yet, but it will be here later today. Guess I’ll find out soon enough
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: Bill on February 13, 2021, 08:31:08 PM
Hi Jim

I would be very surprised if the the Genos turns up without the music rest, however if for some reason it is missing you will need a couple of small brackets for the Music rest. 

Yamaha Genos Music Rest Bracket ZW758800 x2 required.

The model number for the actual rest is given in my earlier post.

Regards

Bill
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: Toril S on February 13, 2021, 08:59:56 PM
The bracketts are super easy to mount, just slide the two pins into the the corresponding holes on the Genos.
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: Lee Batchelor on February 13, 2021, 09:06:02 PM
Jim, do you tend to place thicker music books on your keyboard stands? If so and you don't care if you get a Genos stand, I would invest in a decent music stand that can sit behind the Genos. They are likely far cheaper than what you'll pay for one from Yamaha as a "replacement part." Just a thought.

Bill is also correct. It likely comes with a Genos stand, unless they forgot.
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: Stratcat on February 14, 2021, 03:19:07 PM
Lee, I think for me the Yamaha rest is ideal
I like the fact that it is clear and can provide some visibility with the audience when Covid-19 allows for it again. Also I came across these music rest “extensions” which excite me. Allowing greater flexibility in the positioning of the rest
See link
 https://www.etsy.com/listing/833671021/yamaha-genos-music-stand-extensions?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_a-books_movies_and_music-music-musical_instruments-pianos_and_keyboards-pianos&utm_custom1=_k_EAIaIQobChMI4KuMmdXp7gIVi-7jBx13RQ22EAQYBCABEgIfPPD_BwE_k_&utm_content=go_1843970629_71423478602_346397762044_pla-317447051508_m__833671021_12768591&utm_custom2=1843970629&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4KuMmdXp7gIVi-7jBx13RQ22EAQYBCABEgIfPPD_BwE (https://www.etsy.com/listing/833671021/yamaha-genos-music-stand-extensions?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_a-books_movies_and_music-music-musical_instruments-pianos_and_keyboards-pianos&utm_custom1=_k_EAIaIQobChMI4KuMmdXp7gIVi-7jBx13RQ22EAQYBCABEgIfPPD_BwE_k_&utm_content=go_1843970629_71423478602_346397762044_pla-317447051508_m__833671021_12768591&utm_custom2=1843970629&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4KuMmdXp7gIVi-7jBx13RQ22EAQYBCABEgIfPPD_BwE)
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: Stubby on February 14, 2021, 06:56:56 PM
Stratcat, thanks for posting that info about the music rest extensions.  They looked nice and I just ordered a pair.  I can review those once they are received.
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: Lee Batchelor on February 14, 2021, 09:07:46 PM
Good thoughts, Jim. And yes, I too am anxious to get back on the stage after our prime minister can finally prove its case to Big Pharma and that Canada has been good to the world and needs it shots too. I'd say 2035 at the latest ;D!
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: muzicman147 on February 15, 2021, 01:03:09 PM
Lee, I think for me the Yamaha rest is ideal
I like the fact that it is clear and can provide some visibility with the audience when Covid-19 allows for it again. Also I came across these music rest “extensions” which excite me. Allowing greater flexibility in the positioning of the rest
See link
 https://www.etsy.com/listing/833671021/yamaha-genos-music-stand-extensions?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_a-books_movies_and_music-music-musical_instruments-pianos_and_keyboards-pianos&utm_custom1=_k_EAIaIQobChMI4KuMmdXp7gIVi-7jBx13RQ22EAQYBCABEgIfPPD_BwE_k_&utm_content=go_1843970629_71423478602_346397762044_pla-317447051508_m__833671021_12768591&utm_custom2=1843970629&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4KuMmdXp7gIVi-7jBx13RQ22EAQYBCABEgIfPPD_BwE (https://www.etsy.com/listing/833671021/yamaha-genos-music-stand-extensions?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_a-books_movies_and_music-music-musical_instruments-pianos_and_keyboards-pianos&utm_custom1=_k_EAIaIQobChMI4KuMmdXp7gIVi-7jBx13RQ22EAQYBCABEgIfPPD_BwE_k_&utm_content=go_1843970629_71423478602_346397762044_pla-317447051508_m__833671021_12768591&utm_custom2=1843970629&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4KuMmdXp7gIVi-7jBx13RQ22EAQYBCABEgIfPPD_BwE)

Please be aware these rest extensions are OK as long as you don't want to use them on the outer holes, they don't fit particularly tightly on Genos fitting and with a thick book they will tilt forward whilst your playing drop the book straight onto the keyboard.
They are fine as long as you only use the first couple of holes.
Drew
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: Colin D on February 15, 2021, 02:53:57 PM
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Lee, I think for me the Yamaha rest is ideal
I like the fact that it is clear and can provide some visibility with the audience when Covid-19 allows for it again. Also I came across these music rest “extensions” which excite me. Allowing greater flexibility in the positioning of the rest
See link
 https://www.etsy.com/listing/833671021/yamaha-genos-music-stand-extensions?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_a-books_movies_and_music-music-musical_instruments-pianos_and_keyboards-pianos&utm_custom1=_k_EAIaIQobChMI4KuMmdXp7gIVi-7jBx13RQ22EAQYBCABEgIfPPD_BwE_k_&utm_content=go_1843970629_71423478602_346397762044_pla-317447051508_m__833671021_12768591&utm_custom2=1843970629&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4KuMmdXp7gIVi-7jBx13RQ22EAQYBCABEgIfPPD_BwE (https://www.etsy.com/listing/833671021/yamaha-genos-music-stand-extensions?gpla=1&gao=1&&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=shopping_us_a-books_movies_and_music-music-musical_instruments-pianos_and_keyboards-pianos&utm_custom1=_k_EAIaIQobChMI4KuMmdXp7gIVi-7jBx13RQ22EAQYBCABEgIfPPD_BwE_k_&utm_content=go_1843970629_71423478602_346397762044_pla-317447051508_m__833671021_12768591&utm_custom2=1843970629&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI4KuMmdXp7gIVi-7jBx13RQ22EAQYBCABEgIfPPD_BwE)

I sell a version of these in the UK.  They are in UK Ebay, very heavy books can make the rest sag a bit, but not too much.  I do a version for Angled keyboard positions too, The holes in mine are nice and tight, and they are matched to the Yamaha stand features too, so pretty good.(http://)
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: torben on February 15, 2021, 03:23:55 PM
Hu

I just bought a pair. Could not play without them. Simple and a bit expensive - but they are wonderful!

Torben
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: Stubby on February 16, 2021, 02:59:42 AM
Please be aware these rest extensions are OK as long as you don't want to use them on the outer holes, they don't fit particularly tightly on Genos fitting and with a thick book they will tilt forward whilst your playing drop the book straight onto the keyboard.
They are fine as long as you only use the first couple of holes.
Drew

Thanks Drew, that's good to know in advance.  Since they are simply 3D printed, I would hope that the seller has received some feedback by now and made some slight adjustments in the program.  If not, I might try applying a coating (and first letting it dry and cure) to see if I can make the connection more secure.
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: Stratcat on February 21, 2021, 05:29:25 PM
Torben,
I am glad that they are working great for you!
can you tell me which brackets you have? Can you perhaps post a link where you got yours from?
thank you
Jim
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: Stratcat on February 21, 2021, 05:36:38 PM
Regarding the music rest itself, (not the brackets), it seems to be unavailable here in the states. And uk stores are not allowed to ship to the states as per Thomann when I tried to get through them.
I need to order them through Yamaha directly which is so far proving difficult. I will eventually succeed I'm sure.
Jim
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: Stratcat on February 21, 2021, 10:12:40 PM
Well at this point I can not place the order at all.
When I try, under availability, it says "Contact Me".
I proceeded to place the order. It appears in my cart but in red letters it states "Associate will contact you".
I still could proceed to checkout, placed my shipping info, but I could not get past the billing section due to it not allowing me to input the billing address.
I guess I need to wait to be contacted and who knows how long that will take or in what manner they'll try to contact me.
I am frustrated. If I were in the UK I could just purchase it through any number of stores.
Why is it so difficult finding and purchasing one here in the states?
I apologize for the rant but needed to vent.
I hope all are well
thanks to all,
Jim
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: MarkF_48 on February 22, 2021, 12:53:17 AM
This US retailer doesn't list the music rest for the Genos, but does have a few others for Yamaha keyboards. Perhaps give them a call and see if they could get it for you. The price for a Tyros music rest is $127, so I suspect one for the Genos would be close in price if not a bit more.

https://www.fullcompass.com/searchresults.php?search_simple=true&txtAll=music+rest#/?keywords=music+rest&undefined=undefined&force_sku_search=1&search_return=all&Brand=Yamaha

I've bought a few parts for different music gear from Full Compass and they are a reputable retailer that's been around for a while.
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: overover on February 22, 2021, 01:45:12 AM
@Stratcat
Hi Jim,

you could post a wanted ad for the Genos music rest (including the needed mounting brackets) in your local newspaper. In my experience, many (professional) musicians do not use the supplied music rest at all, as they use an iPad for text or score display or use a different music stand.


Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: rdiazhin on February 23, 2021, 12:07:42 AM
Maybe the music stand for the Yamaha P120 digital piano is the same used with Genos and Tyros. Probably you need to move a little bit the pins. The picture looks almost identical.

On Ebay USA is available from alto music and kraft music

Reading the reviews from Alto Music, someone says it fits perfectly for a Tyros 4.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-WB53080R-Music-Rest-for-P120-Digital-Stage-Piano/233461882417?epid=26012042225&hash=item365b699e31:g:BawAAOSw6eleGJxv

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-WB53080R-Music-Rest/352413732917?epid=26012042225&hash=item520d7ed035:g:CZgAAOSwuc1bV4aC

The brackets are in stock at yamaha24x7.com


Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: Stratcat on February 24, 2021, 12:53:32 PM
Well Yamaha did in fact get in touch to tell me they are back ordered and will take 4-6 weeks
Sigh
Jim
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: MadrasGiaguari on August 09, 2021, 06:11:03 PM
Dear Jim,

today I've incidentally found it on Ebay Italy at a very good price. Shipping cost to Italy is about 8 Euros.

Here is the link:
https://www.ebay.it/itm/223647753500?hash=item341271e51c:g:obwAAOSwYDhdbODT (https://www.ebay.it/itm/223647753500?hash=item341271e51c:g:obwAAOSwYDhdbODT)

Just in case you did not get it yet from Yamaha....

Ciao

Angelo
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: Force81 on May 08, 2022, 09:17:27 AM
]
I sell a version of these in the UK.  They are in UK Ebay, very heavy books can make the rest sag a bit, but not too much.  I do a version for Angled keyboard positions too, The holes in mine are nice and tight, and they are matched to the Yamaha stand features too, so pretty good.(http://)

Do you still have these, Colin?
Title: Re: Music rest replacement
Post by: Amwilburn on May 09, 2022, 11:19:51 PM
Maybe the music stand for the Yamaha P120 digital piano is the same used with Genos and Tyros. Probably you need to move a little bit the pins. The picture looks almost identical.

On Ebay USA is available from alto music and kraft music

Reading the reviews from Alto Music, someone says it fits perfectly for a Tyros 4.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-WB53080R-Music-Rest-for-P120-Digital-Stage-Piano/233461882417?epid=26012042225&hash=item365b699e31:g:BawAAOSw6eleGJxv

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Yamaha-WB53080R-Music-Rest/352413732917?epid=26012042225&hash=item520d7ed035:g:CZgAAOSwuc1bV4aC

The brackets are in stock at yamaha24x7.com



The stand from my Yamaha P155 piano is exactly the same as the Genos stand - although of course you will need the brackets.

I also thought the P120/155 music rest was the same. It's not... the spacing of the pins is about 1.5cm different, so it *won't* fit.

The Tyros 1,2,3,4,5 and Genos music rests are the same stand, yes, but the mounting pins are different

Mark