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Title: Does Chord Looper quantize automatically
Post by: MusicMan on January 20, 2021, 07:10:09 AM
Hi

I was wondering if the Chord Looper automatically input quantizes the recording of the chords?
If so, what does it quantizes to? 8th notes?

Thank You
Title: Re: Does Chord Looper quantize automatically
Post by: Dromeus on January 20, 2021, 07:55:37 AM
No, there is no quantization at all, chords are recorded real time in 1920 ticks per quarter resolution.
Title: Re: Does Chord Looper quantize automatically
Post by: maartenb on January 20, 2021, 04:40:39 PM
I would really like it if the Chord Looper would quantize!

It would eliminate small glitches sometimes heard in a style when my left hand fingers don't press all the keys at the same moment (especially with complex five finger chords).

Hopefully in an update!


Maarten
Title: Re: Does Chord Looper quantize automatically
Post by: YvonP on January 20, 2021, 06:35:13 PM
Hi,

Just an idea: can you record your chord loop at a much slower tempo, let’s say 25% of normal tempo?

When I struggle to learn something difficult, that’s what I do...
Title: Re: Does Chord Looper quantize automatically
Post by: overover on January 20, 2021, 06:54:39 PM
I would really like it if the Chord Looper would quantize!

It would eliminate small glitches sometimes heard in a style when my left hand fingers don't press all the keys at the same moment (especially with complex five finger chords). ...

Hi Maarten,

if you are currently using the chord fingering type "Multi Finger" , try setting it to "AI Fingered" or "Fingered".


Best regards,
Chris


Title: Re: Does Chord Looper quantize automatically
Post by: Dromeus on January 20, 2021, 08:01:39 PM
if you are currently using the chord fingering type "Multi Finger" , try setting it to "AI Fingered" or "Fingered".

Interesting post, Chris. Why do you think this will help? With AI (which is my prefered fingering scheme) I sometimes get glitches when playing a chord with three fingers, because two of them (played early) produce a different chord. Example: press C-E-G for a C major and be late on the E, then you get a C1+5 glitch.

As I don't get these type of glitches when normally playing with styles, it seems that in style playing mode there is some timing tolerance before a chord is recognized. This makes sense, because humans are not capable of pressing ALWAYS several keys EXACTLY at the same time (tick). My reasoning is, that this tolerance is not applied when using Chord Looper. Of course, it's just a theory based on my observations.

Title: Re: Does Chord Looper quantize automatically
Post by: overover on January 20, 2021, 08:21:49 PM
Hi Michael,

my main concern here was the following:

In Multi Finger mode you can play a major chord by playing only one (the root) note. And the Multi Finger mode also automatically reacts in the same way as the Single Finger mode when you play the next black or white key to the left of the root note (to play minor and 7th chords). This can easily cause glitches if you actually want to play a normally fingered chord but accidentally press one or two keys a little "too early" (or the other notes a little "too late").


Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Does Chord Looper quantize automatically
Post by: Dromeus on January 20, 2021, 09:01:41 PM
Admittedly I use AI Fingered only, but I think these sort of glitches may be experienced with any fingering scheme (unless you always play with one finger only  ;D).
Title: Re: Does Chord Looper quantize automatically
Post by: overover on January 20, 2021, 09:17:09 PM
Admittedly I use AI Fingered only, but I think these sort of glitches may be experienced with any fingering scheme (unless you always play with one finger only  ;D).

Hi Michael,

thanks for your quick feedback!

With the "Fingered" mode you have to press at least three keys. (Nothing will happen when only one or two keys are pressed.) But in "Multi Finger" mode, as said before, glitches can occur when you play a 3/4/5 finger chord but accidentally press one of the keys a little early. :)


Best regards,
Chirs