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Title: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Teknoss on June 24, 2020, 08:03:31 PM
https://www.yamahamusicsoft.com/sound-and-expansion-libraries/vse
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on June 24, 2020, 08:12:21 PM
Hi
Nothing surprising there!! ;D

Easy Sounds are far superior

Anyway "All Magic comes with a price"       "RumpelStiltskin!!!! ;D  "sign the contract" :P ;D or "Kiss my Boot" ;D
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on June 25, 2020, 12:04:09 AM
https://www.yamahamusicsoft.com/sound-and-expansion-libraries/vse

I dont see anything on the website of yamaha music soft indicating things will be free from next week?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Fred Smith on June 25, 2020, 12:20:38 AM
I dont see anything on the website of yamaha music soft indicating things will be free from next week?

When I click on the link, I get a popup titled PRICE CHANGE ALERT, stating exactly that: packs free as of 6/30. It may be your browser settings that are stopping the popup.

Of course, maybe the website's been hacked, but we'll see.

Cheers,
Fred
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Joe H on June 25, 2020, 12:48:22 AM
I dont see anything on the website of yamaha music soft indicating things will be free from next week?

If you have an ad blocker install on your browser, it will keep the popup showing.  Fred may be right though... why would Yamaha offer their expansion packs for free.  The popup does not say for a limited time. just that expansion and voice packs will be free.

Here's what it says:

 Price Change Alert!

Starting 6/30, Yamaha Music Soft Premium Pack & Voices & Voice & Style Expansion Packs will be free.
If you have any questions please contact Customer Support for details at (866) 430-2652.


Joe H
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Kokoriz on June 25, 2020, 02:20:30 AM
Like everything? I need my refunds on the many I purchased since I got the Genos! Lol
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: frozzers on June 25, 2020, 07:12:15 AM
Actually, Easy Sounds packs are available for purchase through Yamaha on the Yamaha MusicSoft website:

https://uk.yamahamusicsoft.com/sound-and-expansion-libraries

I can't see Yamaha will be giving those away for free.

Perhaps, it's just their own they'll be giving away.

Cheers

Chris
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on June 25, 2020, 11:53:24 AM
Hi Chris

Easysounds are not a Yamaha product
This all is another reason why i am turning to auto sampling  and beyond once i get the hang of it

All the Best
John
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: RoyB on June 25, 2020, 12:13:44 PM
It doesn't seem to make sense to me and seems suspicious. Why offer all their expansion packs free from next week - it means that nobody is going to buy any between now and then, so why not offer it free from now?

(I don't get the pop window either).

Regards

Roy
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on June 25, 2020, 12:37:08 PM
As you will notice it is only Yamaha packs and the ones they are showing are not the best ones but those that are not that popular. No doubt someone will make use of them.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on June 25, 2020, 01:44:57 PM
Like those ones with the flag on them and that beer crazy music ;D
Nothing is free nowadays. You get what you pay for
John :)

Well Eileen it is just like those Embassy records in Woolworths for 2 shillings.
Or Des o Connor records!!! Dik a Dum Dum. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on June 25, 2020, 02:24:56 PM
Makes me wondering why there is still no grand piano expansion pack available...
You would think Yamaha itselves would offer a bösendorf imperial..
And 3rd party would offer a Steinway soundset?

I only see 2 packs of upright sounds...
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: soryt on June 25, 2020, 02:25:29 PM
Dont see any "pop up" coming on the screen  , i dont think its true  ( maybe i am wrong)

Soryt  8)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on June 25, 2020, 03:23:13 PM
Yes John I always say you gets what you pay for. Some of the sounds on the new keyboards are that good that you don't need many sampled voices like we did a few years back.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: DerekA on June 25, 2020, 03:27:10 PM
I don't get the popup message so I can't comment on that.

They did give away some of these older packs as part of the "Genos Superior Pack", so there is precedent. It would nice if they gave away one of the bigger packs like vintage keys or celtic, but I can't see that happening :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on June 25, 2020, 05:11:27 PM
Hi Eileen
I am still buried in learning at the moment and will be on the clubs once i get over the hump.
I just shelled out for Samplerobot and the things that can be done with that will save you buying packs.
If you have a computer and a host of vst's, sky is the limit
Robinez and Sokratis has been helping me and with  the now auto mode a few weeks learning and you will be sampling.
I have had one success and three failures so far but that is pilot error where i forgot to follow instructions to the letter. In other words , i bungled!! ;D
Samplerobot does a great  job in cloning vst to sf2 to put in your packs.
Sounds now can be endless and loads more possibilities as well. you do not have to fiddle in Yem with zones . You just have to put a little release or a little tarting with the sliders and bingo.
The Genos can only cover so much and male choirs are not good on Genos.
So i look to Vst and it ain't arf bad.
You need to listen to Robinez Alicia Keys piano and it makes sense to go for Samplerobot
I have looked at others but it exports to a load of formats as well and to me it is a no brainer.
If you are happy with Genos only that is also ok.
I have set a goal to reach before my 70th birthday next March.

All the best
John ;D
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on June 25, 2020, 05:18:57 PM
Makes me wondering why there is still no grand piano expansion pack available...
You would think Yamaha itselves would offer a bösendorf imperial..
And 3rd party would offer a Steinway soundset?

I only see 2 packs of upright sounds...


 A free Grand Piano going at Melda production site

All the best
John
http://https://www.meldaproduction.com/ad?source=newsletter&id=MonasteryGrand
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: DonM on June 25, 2020, 05:50:37 PM
MAYBE, they are realizing that we are paying well enough money to buy the arrangers, and they want us to continue?  Korg periodically gives away new Style packages, usually twice a year. 
Just thoughts from an old man..... :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Wim on June 25, 2020, 06:41:34 PM
For Subscribers of the YamahaClub Magazine there is a free download  Acoustic Pianomoods. There is also a video. In that   by some of the songs the voice settings  are given

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x-bhEnOTtCc

rgds Wim
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: andy_v on June 25, 2020, 09:33:35 PM
The only pop-up I get is that annoying cookie thing.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: tyrosrick on June 26, 2020, 12:44:29 AM
I contacted Yamaha Music Soft, and here is their reply: Thank you for contacting Yamaha MusicSoft.

All of the Premium Packs and Voice and Style Expansion packs will be offered for free when the site updates on 6/30. This is only for the packs that are offered for the PSR-S instruments and the Tyros/Genos instruments.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on June 26, 2020, 06:10:34 AM
I contacted Yamaha Music Soft, and here is their reply: Thank you for contacting Yamaha MusicSoft.

All of the Premium Packs and Voice and Style Expansion packs will be offered for free when the site updates on 6/30. This is only for the packs that are offered for the PSR-S instruments and the Tyros/Genos instruments.


Thank you Rick, for the comfirmation of this great news..
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on June 26, 2020, 06:20:35 AM
Makes me wondering, which of these packs allready made it into the Genos as standard sounds?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Francesco Massa on June 26, 2020, 06:45:02 AM
Makes me wondering, which of these packs allready made it into the Genos as standard sounds?

Hi Bachus,
if you are referring to the Superior Pack, it contains:
- SA2 Trombone
- SA2 PanFlute
- SA2 FemaleVocals
- Alpen
plus SX900 EDM basses and the styles, not available as standard pack.

Francesco
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on June 26, 2020, 09:50:27 AM
Hi Bachus,
if you are referring to the Superior Pack, it contains:
- SA2 Trombone
- SA2 PanFlute
- SA2 FemaleVocals
- Alpen
plus SX900 EDM basses and the styles, not available as standard pack.

Francesco

Thank you, thats what i was referring to..
Which also reminds me i dont use these as much as i could
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on June 26, 2020, 11:03:29 PM
Hi Bachus
Go into the future
Go Sample Robot
Think of the money you will save

All the Best
john :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Oldden on June 27, 2020, 07:05:38 AM
Just a link saying packs are free from someone.

https://youtu.be/D209MAQAXkg
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on June 27, 2020, 12:09:14 PM
REMEMBER---


"ALL MAGIC COMES WITH A PRICE!!!!" :)


What is in the small print???????  "After 30 day's you will be charged the full price" ::)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on June 27, 2020, 12:26:36 PM
As keyboards improve in sound quality many of us no longer use some of the sample packs as the on board voices are great for most peoples use and with a little tweak in voice set can produce some really good quality voices.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on June 27, 2020, 07:31:32 PM
Hi Bachus
Go into the future
Go Sample Robot
Think of the money you will save

All the Best
john :)

Sample Robot has one downfall..
Its samples are so huge..
Won’t fit many of those sounds in my Genos..
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on June 27, 2020, 07:35:05 PM
As keyboards improve in sound quality many of us no longer use some of the sample packs as the on board voices are great for most peoples use and with a little tweak in voice set can produce some really good quality voices.

Definately true..

However... many of the expansion sounds still fit in well as they are quite unique

But at the current Yamaha prices, i dont think many people would easilly spill €160 on a pack from which they want 4 or 5 voices..
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on June 27, 2020, 11:58:15 PM
Sample Robot has one downfall..
Its samples are so huge..
Won’t fit many of those sounds in my Genos..


Hi Bachus

You can put a nice large usb stick underneath in the bomb bay "SKY IS THE LIMIT"!! :)
It exports to SF2 ,so the same as any Yamaha pack. No Problem.
Sample VST and it can save you a load of dosh!! (money).
It has all the other avantages to be creative.

All the best
John
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: filoaman on June 28, 2020, 06:54:34 PM
I read somewhere, but I wasn't able to confirm this with other source, that every register user now download only two (2) free packs every year.
The source mention some "fine print"
Since I'm also unable to see any pop-up (maybe is the ad-blocker as mentioned above) I can't confirm anything by my self and I was unable to find another reliable source to confirm.
If some-one see the pop-up maybe it worth investigate more if actually there is "fine print"
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ton37 on June 28, 2020, 07:06:37 PM
A screenprint ...
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Hammond Yamaha on June 28, 2020, 08:03:15 PM
Starting June 30 but for how long?
I assume it will be only the Yamaha product and not including KaPro etc.
I am wondering if the reason is because most of the product is already in the Genos or maybe not.
 Frank

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on June 28, 2020, 08:29:24 PM
These packs are old. I have the Greetings from Italy pack, downloaded maybe two years ago!
But they may be good :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on June 28, 2020, 09:30:25 PM

Hi Bachus

You can put a nice large usb stick underneath in the bomb bay "SKY IS THE LIMIT"!! :)
It exports to SF2 ,so the same as any Yamaha pack. No Problem.
Sample VST and it can save you a load of dosh!! (money).
It has all the other avantages to be creative.

All the best
John

You can’t load, nor play samples directly from USB, can you?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on June 28, 2020, 11:36:52 PM
Hi Bachus

I made a sample of a choir from Sampletank 4 after starting out with help from Sokratis and Robinez. I cant thank them enough. Great guys.
Made a pack and put that in there.
I then transferred to the Genos with all the other packs as usual and they are in my expansion underneath the Genos. 64 gig stick enough to keep me happy until i need another ;D
I can pick any sound from there and even put it in a registration.
The thing is the pathway has to be known by the registration, so you choose Expansion, USB 1 Or Usb 2 or internal. No different to a computer and an external drive. 
You can play sounds from any usb stick, but they will disappear when you take the stick out. It will work again when you put that stick back in again.
Once you make lots of registrations and loaded up with sounds back them up on a Terrabyte drive and associate all parts with a song and registration.
If you have a computer back that up to a terrabyte drive  also. Everything is failsafe then.
I got caught out once when my Music computer went down. Never again. This time i got a computer built for the job with 32 gig of ram to future proof for a while as Arturia ,Sampletank etc uses quite a bit of the computer. My I7 runs like a dream and never coughs  " I will have to touch wood now" or hope sods law does not get me!!   English expressions!!
Sample Robot is  unbelievable for what it does, hence being £240. Worth every
Euro :)
As i said you can get it cheaper for the Montage (tip!!!)  I think you can also look it up on the Yamaha site as they work in conjunction with Samplerobot.
Push the boat out Bachus and go for it. 
We are not like James Bond  "We Only live Once"!! 8)  "Yes Miss Moneypenny"!! ;D
Hope you take fools gladly Bachus!! :) :P

All the best
John     
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Pino on June 28, 2020, 11:59:49 PM
Good post John

Sounds like you have found your way around the sampling world 🎬

The only way is up 😀🍺🎶

Pino
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: DerekA on June 29, 2020, 12:47:01 AM
I'm not sure I am following you john.

If you are creating sf2 samples, and loading them to genos via yem, then the sf2 samples are going into the 3gb expansion memory. You might be creating voice files on usb but you're still going to fill up your expansion memory pretty soon with all those sf2 files.

Unless I'm mistaken and you have a way to play your sf2 samples from usb without creating a yem install pack first?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on June 29, 2020, 01:51:24 AM
Hi Derek and Bachus .
Yes i got it slightly wrong but i cannot see a problem.
From what i can see there is enough room for loads of sounds.
I am not into too much tech jargon, i just want to get on with it before i am B flat diminished :D
 If i run out of memory , i would take files that i need out of the packs and create a custom packs.
The Genos has loads of great sounds anyway.
If you have vst and Genos no problem at all in my view.
If you play gigs ,just load in what you need for the sets.
I purchase Sample Robot for those extra sounds that you cannot achieve on the Genos, then you can play them on the fly.
For the seroius stuff ,go Cubase..
The possibilities are endless.

All great fun !! :)


All the Best
john ;)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on June 29, 2020, 05:38:46 AM
Hi Derek and Bachus .
Yes i got it slightly wrong but i cannot see a problem.
From what i can see there is enough room for loads of sounds.
I am not into too much tech jargon, i just want to get on with it before i am B flat diminished :D
 If i run out of memory , i would take files that i need out of the packs and create a custom packs.
The Genos has loads of great sounds anyway.
If you have vst and Genos no problem at all in my view.
If you play gigs ,just load in what you need for the sets.
I purchase Sample Robot for those extra sounds that you cannot achieve on the Genos, then you can play them on the fly.
For the seroius stuff ,go Cubase..
The possibilities are endless.

All great fun !! :)


All the Best
john ;)

Its much easier to use those vst’s on mainstage in combination with the Genos, then having to take the time to sample them and continously having to manage my Yem.. 

When you use sample robot for multi sampling with more vellocity layers on every 3 keysto get accurate sounds, then its quickly becomming a memmory hog.. 

Also when you sample a sound from a synth engine its quickly becomming static in nature... 
as an example, when i create sounds one of the things i often do is use keyboard vellocity (how hard i strike the key) to drive the filter cutoff. This makes the sounds much more dynamic..its hard to do such in the Genos..
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on June 29, 2020, 11:54:29 AM
Hi Bachus
You can still play registration sounds from USB.
If you make folders for pads,sounds registrations with all content on usb,all pathways are there.
I think is is what gig discs do as well
It is all the do with the pathways.
Also with Samplerobot you still get hard and soft when you apply key pressure
I am not sure how it works but i think the Genos has something to do with it
Yes it does work on one velocity layer
Also i was given help and and had an example of adding volume high and low to the pitch bend wheel to give choirs that rising in sound.
You also tweak and do more in Yem.
I cannot praise Sample Robot enough. Amazing program.
I may get a few things wrong  but i am on the right track unless someone changes the points and de-rails me. ;)
It's not so hard to be humble.

All the best
John :)
You can get loads of SF2 files on the Genos
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on June 29, 2020, 12:30:09 PM
Hi
I cannot believe Yamaha are giving all sound packs away
The site will crash within minutes as it is painfully slow anyway
Is it still APRIL???
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on June 29, 2020, 01:10:52 PM
Well John we must wait and see.  I have most of the good Yamaha packs anyway but would not mind a few more styles.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: robinez on June 29, 2020, 02:45:07 PM
...

When you use sample robot for multi sampling with more vellocity layers on every 3 keysto get accurate sounds, then its quickly becomming a memmory hog.. 

Also when you sample a sound from a synth engine its quickly becomming static in nature... 
as an example, when i create sounds one of the things i often do is use keyboard vellocity (how hard i strike the key) to drive the filter cutoff. This makes the sounds much more dynamic..its hard to do such in the Genos..
you can modify that behavior for the most common parameters in YEM, so it's not always nessecary to sample more velocities. For instance your example (velocity to filter cutoff) is a setting in yem that you can add to the preset and even the Envelopes of the filter (which is used very often during programming sounds) can be added in YEM.

The static in nature remark about sampling can be solved with some clever sampling features during the sampling and added synth programming in YEM.

For instance in this demo i created you hear all kind of moving pads starting at 1.50. All these sounds (including the ambient pianos) are from my own expansion packs i created in samplerobot and YEM. Although the Genos has very limited synth editing features, you can achieve a lot if you fix this before sampling when you program your own sounds. If you export the same sounds to the Korg Pa4x then off course you can do a lot of extra things in the substrative synthesizer that it has, which takes it even a lot further.

With almost 4 gigabyte of expansion space in the Genos you can add hundreds of sounds before running out of space. I have added so many sounds that i lost count, so in my opinion the memory size is not a real issue considering the amount of expansion space.

own sounds demo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KzrB_Jqx2A
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on June 29, 2020, 03:01:28 PM
Loved those voices a lovely Demo.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on June 29, 2020, 03:34:12 PM
Hi Eileen
Robinez is right, key pressure on my first effort was there when auto sampling, but there is  a little more in the program to learn in stages.
I had a go at two sample layers and sokratis took my samples to show me how he does it as he is been using it for some time.
When i got them back they sounded great  Some release added and a little touch sense i noticed had a  little manipulation and the result is 100%.
Robinez has also helped me and i very gratefull for that.
I say again to anyone with  a Genos and VST and a Daw go for Sample Robot. I am sold on it.
There are also loads more creative things you can do with it once getting passed the first phase.
Bachus thinks that you cannot put registrations sounds etc to play from a usb drive or stick. I know it is possible as long as the right pathway is there.
Yes packs have to go in the Expansion,but there are ways.
You can load single sounds and registrations and pads from usb. Take the stick out and it disappears untill you put the stick back
I reckon gig disks are made in that way, but i do not gig. Home Studiois far more relaxing and you do not have to worry about ego. 8) "Cool Man"!!
Robinez is also 100% right in saying that you can put loads of sounds in the memory.
I you run out make Best of packs!!! ;D


all the best
John :) :) :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Joe H on June 29, 2020, 03:39:10 PM
... you can modify that behavior for the most common parameters in YEM... With almost 4 gigabyte of expansion space in the Genos you can add hundreds of sounds before running out of space. I have added so many sounds that i lost count, so in my opinion the memory size is not a real issue considering the amount of expansion space...
While some people complain about YEM's editing limitations, there's a lot we can do.  As the saying goes... "it's not what you got, but how you use it"

I maxed out on my S970 expansion memory with hundreds of ambient and analog synth sounds.  It's great the Yamaha went in this direction isn't it.

We need better tools for style making though.  Yamaha can do only so much in satisfying a world market place. We need to be able to create our own styles as well as sounds. I think Yamaha understood the need for some arranger players to be creative.

 ;)

Joe H
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: jwyvern on June 29, 2020, 04:03:21 PM

Also when you sample a sound from a synth engine its quickly becomming static in nature... 
as an example, when i create sounds one of the things i often do is use keyboard vellocity (how hard i strike the key) to drive the filter cutoff. This makes the sounds much more dynamic..its hard to do such in the Genos..

If this infers you want to set velocities to precise values for multi sampling from Genos you can turn off Touch say for R1 then dial in the fixed velocity you want to apply for that sample/layer etc.
........ If it helps   :)
John
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on June 29, 2020, 04:13:46 PM
Hi Joe

EMC Style works was as Close as it gets to making styles the easy way.
I got suckered into that program which worked great for a year and when the Genos came out. It went BONK!!! ::) :P
 Klaus took ages to update the program and when he did, it was so buggy. He has other business interests i'm afraid.
I have written to him, nothing really gets done. He wanted me to use winamp with the program. Still hopeless and when i load it up a pop up comes up telling of problems and will not run.
The program could of been great ,but Klaus has neglected the buyers in my opinion.
I do not want to use winamp. I wanted an update for the money i have paid. The program should of worked on it's own ,not shortcutting like old programs that borrowed dll's,which add to crashes.
It is possible with Stylemagic , but more involved and time consuming.
Stylemagic great for manipulating Styles and drums though. Easier than the Genos.

All the best
John :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on June 29, 2020, 04:45:41 PM
you can modify that behavior for the most common parameters in YEM, so it's not always nessecary to sample more velocities. For instance your example (velocity to filter cutoff) is a setting in yem that you can add to the preset and even the Envelopes of the filter (which is used very often during programming sounds) can be added in YEM.

The static in nature remark about sampling can be solved with some clever sampling features during the sampling and added synth programming in YEM.

For instance in this demo i created you hear all kind of moving pads starting at 1.50. All these sounds (including the ambient pianos) are from my own expansion packs i created in samplerobot and YEM. Although the Genos has very limited synth editing features, you can achieve a lot if you fix this before sampling when you program your own sounds. If you export the same sounds to the Korg Pa4x then off course you can do a lot of extra things in the substrative synthesizer that it has, which takes it even a lot further.

With almost 4 gigabyte of expansion space in the Genos you can add hundreds of sounds before running out of space. I have added so many sounds that i lost count, so in my opinion the memory size is not a real issue considering the amount of expansion space.

own sounds demo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KzrB_Jqx2A

Thank you Robin..


I realise that you can do many things in Yem..
Yet i would prefer to edit and create sounds like on the pa4x, directly from behind the keyboard..
But thats not the case..

Because of this i prefer to spend my sound creation time on some gorgeous ipad synths that have a very nice friendly interface... which i then can controll from the Genos..

For me it would allready be a blessing if i could set midi bank and program changes directly in the Genos for external sounds..

Thanks for the video..
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: elad770 on June 29, 2020, 05:38:24 PM
I just want to share my opinion about this move Yamaha is making.

In other topics, I've already expressed my opinion that Yamaha should not charge for sound packs because people are already buying and paying a premium for their products.
But this is only from a consumer point of view. Yamaha has a clear marketing goal here:

1. Most people who buy arrangers are no into creating new material but rather play and enjoy. Having a bank of content free will boost sales across the board! Yamaha understands due to COVID 19 that engineering and development efforts are now decreased and to increase focus on selling current models, this move of giving free packs is VERY SMART

2. This allows Yamaha to basically "give away" music creation to others. And there are many talented voice and style creators out there. As I said in the past, Yamaha will slowly but surely is going towards an open platform concept where YAMAHA produces not only very high-quality product but also a Flexible product. Today it starts with voices and styles and tomorrow it will be open-source software where endless features can be developed and customized by others. Again, Yamaha wants to focus on the product and leave all the rest to other developers. Exactly the way it's done in the smartphone market! That is a healthier market. These are just my thoughts of course
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on June 29, 2020, 08:49:36 PM
Elad, it would certainly make it easier for users if Yamaha decided to distribute packs free of charge. Then we could load them just like any styles/voices, without the confusing file names in YEM, and YEM could be discarded. I will dream on!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Mendel on June 29, 2020, 09:40:25 PM
Hey John,


You say that you load all of your sounds on a USB stick.. can you elaborate more for me..?
I am understanding that those voices are just calling up the preset samples in sample robot?
If That’s so, you mind explaining how you do it? I would like to.


Thanks 😊!
Mendel
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: tyrosman on June 30, 2020, 12:18:06 AM
hi Robinez those voices were good loved the Demo
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Hammond Yamaha on June 30, 2020, 12:53:52 AM
I called Yamaha today with the number that is on the pop up in yamahamusicsoft.com and it was verified that the Yamaha
created expansion packs and style packs will be free as of June 30, 2020
Now that is good news.

Frank
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Mendel on June 30, 2020, 02:30:15 AM
That leads me to wonder about yamaha's actions..


i have a feeling that some new exciting expansion packs will be coming
soon from them thus making the current ones not so profitable




mendel
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Al Ram on June 30, 2020, 04:17:00 AM
thanks.

Hello, I have the Genos keyboard, however, i go to the page/link in first post and

When I select the model Genos . . . . . only 1 item is available . . . .

"Easy Xmas Style Expansion" 

is that correct ?   should i select a different keyboard model . . .  ? 

The Xmas package is of no interest to me . . . . are there any other packages available for Genos ?

Thanks in advance.
 
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Joe H on June 30, 2020, 04:48:57 AM
That leads me to wonder about yamaha's actions..

i have a feeling that some new exciting expansion packs will be coming
soon from them thus making the current ones not so profitable

mendel

Maybe they are going to change the format again away from YEM to something different. Maybe it's the end of the line for expansion packs as we know them to be.  Maybe there is a new kind of arranger coming next time that will be very different than the Genos and sx900 Operating System.

I know; that's a lot of maybe's... seems like Yamaha is up to something. It's make no sense to sell copy protected expansion packs so we can't share them... then all of a sudden... they are giving them away for FREE!

 ???    ???    ???

Joe H
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Joe H on June 30, 2020, 06:04:52 AM
Hi Joe

EMC Style works was as Close as it gets to making styles the easy way.
I got suckered into that program which worked great for a year and when the Genos came out. It went BONK!!! ::) :P
 Klaus took ages to update the program and when he did, it was so buggy. He has other business interests i'm afraid...

I have to say the same thing about Yamaha - Style Factory.  It's got bugs and Klaus doesn't seem interested in fixing them.  For instance: What you see on-sceen may NOT be what is going on with the program.  What I mean is everything on-screen should accurately reflect the operation you are performing. An example would be if a style phrase has a synth sound, the Phrase Extractor Module screen should display the actual sound not "Bassoon" or French Horn".  It should support all the new drum kits not just the old GM/XG Standard Kit. I remixed a style in the Style Arranger Module and saved it. When I played on my keyboard, it didn't sound right.  Drums transposed with my left-hand chords and the rest of the Parts didn't play right either.  I had to load it into StyleMagic to fix the CASM settings.

The program is old. It was written in 1994 when arrangers were quite simple and there were only 128 GM sounds.  When he updated the program to support Tyros and Genos, he did so only half-way. I sent him an email a few days ago explaining some of the issues I was running into... no response.

Style Factory has wonderful potential if he would update it to work properly with the new TOTL arrangers.  Just creating sound maps (Voice Definition Files) for the Tyros and Genos isn't enough. I gave him some ideas about how the program should work effectively with the new keyboards, which have a lot more Voices and also enhancements like Mega Voices for the guitar parts. (SFF2 aka: SFF GE).  The CASM settings fall short and don't save correctly.  To be honest; I'll be surprised if he fixes the problems I reported.  I told him that I was having to "experiment" to learn how the program worked because the documentation was so poor.  A new user shouldn't have to experiment to figure out how a program works.

I'll probably have to find several "work-arounds" in order to use it at all. First workaround was to create a PSR S970 sound map and I had to name it Tyros3.snd in order to get it to work properly. Some of his conventions make no sense or are out of date.  He needs to "modernized  the program to make it truly compatible with the Tyros and Genos keyboards (not to mention the newer PSR arrangers).

http://www.emc-musicsoftware.de/eng-shop/eng-dscstf.htm#Top (http://www.emc-musicsoftware.de/eng-shop/eng-dscstf.htm#Top)

 :'(   :(

Joe H
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: robinez on June 30, 2020, 07:48:25 AM
hi Robinez those voices were good loved the Demo
Thank you (and EileenL) for these kind words.

That's what i really like about these kind of keyboards, that you can change the sound to your own liking by adding your own sounds to it. Especially the 4 gigabytes space in the genos is fantastic. It's more then enough to add every sound i want. And my styles are mostly ranged to new age / ambient and dance music and there aren't a lot of sounds available for those styles in keyboards. So that you can add them yourself is a great feature :).

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Oldden on June 30, 2020, 08:44:53 AM
Just looked on Yamaha musicsoft , still full price.
Early, April Fool maybe, or just that not changed yet.
Oldden
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on June 30, 2020, 09:17:02 AM
Hi
It's a load of old cobblers!! ;D
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on June 30, 2020, 11:21:58 AM
I have to say the same thing about Yamaha - Style Factory.  It's got bugs and Klaus doesn't seem interested in fixing them.  For instance: What you see on-sceen may NOT be what is going on with the program.  What I mean is everything on-screen should accurately reflect the operation you are performing. An example would be if a style phrase has a synth sound, the Phrase Extractor Module screen should display the actual sound not "Bassoon" or French Horn".  It should support all the new drum kits not just the old GM/XG Standard Kit. I remixed a style in the Style Arranger Module and saved it. When I played on my keyboard, it didn't sound right.  Drums transposed with my left-hand chords and the rest of the Parts didn't play right either.  I had to load it into StyleMagic to fix the CASM settings.

The program is old. It was written in 1994 when arrangers were quite simple and there were only 128 GM sounds.  When he updated the program to support Tyros and Genos, he did so only half-way. I sent him an email a few days ago explaining some of the issues I was running into... no response.

Style Factory has wonderful potential if he would update it to work properly with the new TOTL arrangers.  Just creating sound maps (Voice Definition Files) for the Tyros and Genos isn't enough. I gave him some ideas about how the program should work effectively with the new keyboards, which have a lot more Voices and also enhancements like Mega Voices for the guitar parts. (SFF2 aka: SFF GE).  The CASM settings fall short and don't save correctly.  To be honest; I'll be surprised if he fixes the problems I reported.  I told him that I was having to "experiment" to learn how the program worked because the documentation was so poor.  A new user shouldn't have to experiment to figure out how a program works.

I'll probably have to find several "work-arounds" in order to use it at all. First workaround was to create a PSR S970 sound map and I had to name it Tyros3.snd in order to get it to work properly. Some of his conventions make no sense or are out of date.  He needs to "modernized  the program to make it truly compatible with the Tyros and Genos keyboards (not to mention the newer PSR arrangers).

http://www.emc-musicsoftware.de/eng-shop/eng-dscstf.htm#Top (http://www.emc-musicsoftware.de/eng-shop/eng-dscstf.htm#Top)

 :'(   :(

Joe H


I have given up on it Joe .
He should refund us ,but that would never happen.
I wasted my money on that one.
Never mind.
With this hobby we all waste money but move on.
Thank the heavens Sample Robot is up to expectations and sound packs are no longer a problem .
This program is a gem.

All the best
John
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: johnnychipito on June 30, 2020, 01:40:28 PM
Maybe i'm doing something wrong, but I can't find anything for free yet. Do others have a similar issue?

John
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: dflstarry on June 30, 2020, 01:47:37 PM
I don't find anything free yet either, I think it's not going to happen.  ???
Denny
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: overover on June 30, 2020, 01:57:33 PM
Hello, I have the Genos keyboard, however, i go to the page/link in first post and

When I select the model Genos . . . . . only 1 item is available . . . .

"Easy Xmas Style Expansion" 

is that correct ?   should i select a different keyboard model . . .  ? 

The Xmas package is of no interest to me . . . . are there any other packages available for Genos ? ...

Hi Al,

the link in the first post of this thread points to the "Voice & Style Expansion Packs" (for PSR-S and SX models). To see the Packs available for GENOS, go back to "Sound & Expansion Libraries", then go to "Premium Packs & Voices". If not done before, select the GENOS as Instument now, and be sure to have ticked the checkbox "Compatible".

By the way: So far I can not find any free Packs on Yamaha MusicSoft...

Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: danand on June 30, 2020, 02:03:22 PM
You say that you load all of your sounds on a USB stick.. can you elaborate more for me..?
I am understanding that those voices are just calling up the preset samples in sample robot?
If That’s so, you mind explaining how you do it? I would like to.

If you read carefully the answers bellow the statement you will understand that  it just doesn't work...
You can only add new samples to the flash memory on Yamaha arrangers, nowhere else.
If you then modify the sound you create using the samples you can save them as "new sounds" on a USB stick, but if you format the flash memory, then recalling the sound from the USB doesn't help you at all! If the original sample is not present on the flash memory, you can't use "sampled sounds" from USB.
It looks to me that the OP is a little bit confused.
There is no magic solution. No samples on the flash memory-> No sounds.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: elad770 on June 30, 2020, 02:03:34 PM
UPDATE!

Just got off the phone with Yamaha customer service
The department the directly handles the Packs content.
They are updating their system and had some difficulties.
There will be 1 day delay. In fact, they said the system will be updated 6pm EST and probably will take effect hours later so the good news : It's definitely happening!
Bad news: 24hr delay ! We'll survive
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on June 30, 2020, 03:09:45 PM
UPDATE!

Just got off the phone with Yamaha customer service
The department the directly handles the Packs content.
They are updating their system and had some difficulties.
There will be 1 day delay. In fact, they said the system will be updated 6pm EST and probably will take effect hours later so the good news : It's definitely happening!
Bad news: 24hr delay ! We'll survive

Thank you for the headsup Elad..
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Joe H on June 30, 2020, 03:57:39 PM
... It looks to me that the OP is a little bit confused.
There is no magic solution. No samples on the flash memory-> No sounds.

I think he is confused with the actual samples vs the Voice Set files which are special MIDI files containing modified settings of the Preset or expansion pack Voices.

When we select a Voice on the keyboard, the sample loads, then the Voice Set file loads to set the DSP Type and depth, Volume and other parameters for Left, R1, R2, and R3.  When we load a Voice into a style Part or Multi Pad, the Voice Set file is NOT loaded.

Joe H
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on June 30, 2020, 04:38:34 PM
Hi
Has anyone asked why they phoned Yamaha and why are they givng free packs away.
"Is something else on it's way"??
Maybe it is the GENIUS!!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Al Ram on June 30, 2020, 04:52:09 PM
Are there limits as to how many free packages can be downloaded per person ?

thanks
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: gskip on June 30, 2020, 05:04:37 PM
Just got off the Musicsoft site. Nothing free, perhaps tomorrow?
I changed the items in the cart to my wishlist so if it becomes free then I can get them easier.
My problem, since I have a Genos, is what do I really need/ I played a few of the examples and found little to interest me. Of course I have no interest in dance or synth sounds since my keyboard already has enough for me.
I tried to order the organ and FM packs just to see if they are useful. If I had to pay for anthing on this site, I wouldn't.
If anyone has any ideas as to what else could be useful I'd like to hear them.
Thanks
Skip
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on June 30, 2020, 05:46:55 PM
Are there limits as to how many free packages can be downloaded per person ?

thanks

According to what people reported..
All Yamaha packs free
No limit..
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: KeyboardEd on June 30, 2020, 05:53:07 PM
Just got off the phone (11:45 A.M. CST, -6 GMT) with Yamaha Customer support and they told me there are some issues with getting the free offer started today.

Yamaha support said to look for the free offer to begin tomorrow. -Ed L.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on June 30, 2020, 05:54:39 PM
Just got off the phone (11:45 CST, -6 GMT) with Yamaha Customer support and they told me there are some issues with getting the free offer started today.

Yamaha support said to look for the free offer to begin tomorrow. -EdL.

Thats the same message Elad confirmed several posts above
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: KeyboardEd on June 30, 2020, 06:03:09 PM
Opps! I've been back to this post so often I just skimmed over the newer posts and didn't see it...I guess that's good news X2. -Ed L.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on June 30, 2020, 06:35:57 PM
Opps! I've been back to this post so often I just skimmed over the newer posts and didn't see it...I guess that's good news X2. -Ed L.

Better 2 confirmations then none
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Mendel on June 30, 2020, 06:53:54 PM
Now, can someone ask them why they are doing it???


They are up to something. Period. Something Big.

P.S

John (not John H),
I am anticipating your reply
to my question I posted Earlier

no pressure, perhaps you missed it :)

My bad it is kinda of topic.. maybe you can PM me :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on June 30, 2020, 07:40:34 PM
Hi Mendel
Yes i realized that you have to have sounds already on the drive to even recognize modified ones.
Never mind I save everything to a Terrabyte drive even the computer so i do not get caught out.
I have usb sticks from other scources that work straight off the stick. That is why i assumed that all would work I was wrong !! :P
So then they must have been made using the core sound and registration structure of the Genos.
Anyway the sounds from Samplerobot have to go in the packs you make.
Now that is the business :)
 


All the Best
John S :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on June 30, 2020, 07:43:43 PM
Just got off the Musicsoft site. Nothing free, perhaps tomorrow?
I changed the items in the cart to my wishlist so if it becomes free then I can get them easier.
My problem, since I have a Genos, is what do I really need/ I played a few of the examples and found little to interest me. Of course I have no interest in dance or synth sounds since my keyboard already has enough for me.
I tried to order the organ and FM packs just to see if they are useful. If I had to pay for anthing on this site, I wouldn't.
If anyone has any ideas as to what else could be useful I'd like to hear them.
Thanks
Skip

Not to moan!! ;D ;D ;D ;D   "Sausages"!!!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on June 30, 2020, 07:48:58 PM
Hi
I like that German Guy or young enthusiastic You Tuber.

So you think that you will get the free packs. Think Again!!! ;D ;D
That flamin' Yamaha site is so slow that it will crash the servers in 10 seconds.
You have more chance of getting toilet rolls now as no one is fighting over them ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :P
Swine flu is on it's way . Get yer bog rolls in now!! ::) ::) ::) ::) ::) ;D ;D ;D
China is at it again!!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: tyrosrick on June 30, 2020, 08:14:28 PM
The Free Paks response from Yamaha:
Thanks for contacting Yamaha MusicSoft.
The Yamaha produced packs were scheduled to become free June 30th but have been delayed until July 1st.
We apologize for the inconvenience.
Kind Regards,

Isabelle
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: LaHawk on June 30, 2020, 08:44:47 PM
I also phoned MusicSoft. Only Yamaha produced packs will be free. For Genos and SX-900 compatibility that leaves very little to choose from. But hey it is free, so...
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on June 30, 2020, 10:00:07 PM
I also phoned MusicSoft. Only Yamaha produced packs will be free. For Genos and SX-900 compatibility that leaves very little to choose from. But hey it is free, so...

Its all backwards compatability.. all tyros packs work also on Genos.. and are Yamaha produced..
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on June 30, 2020, 10:51:20 PM
The site will crash after 10 people start downloading 8) ;D Massive LOL!!
If it is only Yamaha packs, no wonder there giving them away. Yamaha packs are not very exiting.
The decent Easysounds and Kapro are the only things worth  having.
That is only my opinion. 8)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: LaHawk on June 30, 2020, 11:05:45 PM
The site will crash after 10 people start downloading 8) ;D Massive LOL!!
If it is only Yamaha packs, no wonder there giving them away. Yamaha packs are not very exiting.
The decent Easysounds and Kapro are the only things worth  having.
That is only my opinion. 8)

Hopefully customers will not be crazy greedy and spread out downloads over time. Yea right...:)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: LaHawk on June 30, 2020, 11:13:24 PM
Its all backwards compatability.. all tyros packs work also on Genos.. and are Yamaha produced..

I could be wrong, but I don't think there are any Yamaha Produced Packs made for the Tyros, that are also not available for the Genos or SX-900.
.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: elad770 on June 30, 2020, 11:45:12 PM
Hopefully, customers will not be crazy greedy and spread out downloads over time. Yea right...:)

Spread downloads? what it that mean? of course, they will and they should. Yamaha decided to make these packs public and the Should! They made plenty of money out of them and they are making plenty of money from selling the best arrangers in the world. The consumer Earned these packs!

Secondly, of course the packs will be compatible. If it exists, it will work. When they say ALL packs they mean ALL packs. Just be patient and you'll see. Everyone will be very happy with this move
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Al Ram on July 01, 2020, 05:04:19 AM
Thanks Everyone . . .

This is really good information.

One question, assuming that you get say 3 free packages that include styles, voices, registrations, multipads, etc.

Is there are way to only load to Genos keyboard the new styles . . . . not the entire package with voices, registrations, etc.  . . . . only the styles. ?  I really do not need more voices and do not care for registrations.

Will that approach keep Genos memory better administered ? does it matter ?

Thanks in advance.

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: elad770 on July 01, 2020, 05:38:21 AM
If your goal is to get as many styles as possible without wasting more space (Ram)

This is the answer:

Option 1:
In Yem - Enter the pack before you create the installation file and Uncheck ALL the voices But leave the Drumkits checked
This will only import the files you checked AND the style will work because it will recall the proper drumkit
Note! You will have to reassign the voices from you preset because the style will not be able to locate them (because you obviously unchecked and didn't install)

Option 2:
There's a very good chance that you also have the drumkit available so...
You can slowly reassign all the style parts to already existing drumkits and other parts.
At the end, you might be left with the style working perfectly without any need for the packs at all

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Joe H on July 01, 2020, 06:20:40 AM
You can use YEM Content Explorer to extract the styles from a pack and save them to your hard drive, then transfer them to your USB stick or wherever.

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,53624.0.html (https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,53624.0.html)

Joe H
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: LaHawk on July 01, 2020, 06:27:20 AM
Spread downloads? what it that mean? of course, they will and they should. Yamaha decided to make these packs public and the Should! They made plenty of money out of them and they are making plenty of money from selling the best arrangers in the world. The consumer Earned these packs!

Secondly, of course the packs will be compatible. If it exists, it will work. When they say ALL packs they mean ALL packs. Just be patient and you'll see. Everyone will be very happy with this move

I was referring to the the site possibly crashing because of too many customers simultaneously downloading as much as they can in a short period of time.
 Only Yamaha produced packs are going to free
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: voodoo on July 01, 2020, 08:27:20 AM
Currently, the yamaha music soft website says:

Scheduled website maintenance.
Yamaha MusicSoft is currently down while we upgrade the site.
Please check back soon.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 01, 2020, 09:09:40 AM
It's going to plan CRASH!! ;D
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: chesterkins on July 01, 2020, 10:24:59 AM
Site up!!!!! NO reductions!!!!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: chesterkins on July 01, 2020, 10:33:41 AM
Site crashed again!!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 01, 2020, 10:34:02 AM
Crash!!  ;)
Told you It is going to plan!!
This site always goes at snailpace :D
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: soryt on July 01, 2020, 10:35:02 AM
SCHEDULED SITE MAINTENANCE
Scheduled website maintenance.
Yamaha MusicSoft is currently down while we upgrade the site.
Please check back soon.

Maintenance du site web programmée.
Yamaha MusicSoft est actuellement fermé pendant que nous améliorons le site.
Veuillez revenir bientôt.

Planmäßige Wartung der Website.
Yamaha MusicSoft ist derzeitig offline, während wir die Website upgraden.
Schauen Sie bitte bald wieder vorbei.

Manutenzione programmata del sito.
Yamaha MusicSoft è momentaneamente non disponibile mentre aggiorniamo il sito.
Per favore, torna presto.

Mantenimiento programado del sitio web.
Yamaha MusicSoft está inactivo en estos momentos mientras actualizamos el sitio.
Vuelve a visitarnos pronto.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: voodoo on July 01, 2020, 10:59:57 AM
Now it works. i could order (but not download) the Celtic Pack für 0€. And it says:

NOTICE TO MUSICSOFT CUSTOMERS
Please note that some product categories and features are currently disabled while we improve the MusicSoft site experience. We appreciate your patience and expect the site to be fully functional in the next 1-2 weeks. If you have any questions, please contact Yamaha Online Customer Support.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: chesterkins on July 01, 2020, 11:03:21 AM
Got to see the site for 5 minutes before it crashed again  Only a few at zero $ and its all the ones at least 5 years old 
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 01, 2020, 11:10:44 AM
What a load of codswallop!!

Yamaha are only giving away the useless packs with flags on them.
Might as well go out and buy the Des o Connor collection!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Some will find the site hard to navigate 

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 01, 2020, 11:43:05 AM
Hi John,
  Some people may enjoy these packs as they can't afford to purchase extra's for there keyboards.
You can't tar everyone with the same brush.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: chesterkins on July 01, 2020, 11:46:43 AM
The site is asking you to update personal info and it seems to only recognise US zip codes   
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: danand on July 01, 2020, 11:50:07 AM
Yamaha are only giving away the useless packs with flags on them.

What is "useless" for you maybe is valuable for another user.
If you don't find any value on the packs on promotion just don't get them.
Other users maybe find this material valuable.

Also I really didn't get you "joke" about an artist (Des o Connor)
I personally find it quite disrespectful.
Please keep in mind that "music" is not ONLY what do you like, there are also a few more billions on the planet earth apart you, and maybe they enjoy this artist.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Pino on July 01, 2020, 12:08:04 PM
Danand, don’t be so serious man 😀
Your supposed to be an ‘entertainer’

John is probably right.

Yamaha does not give much away,
Not even a free midi sequencer so that we can edit our midi recordings.

I would be very surprised if we were to have a ‘free and for all’ on all their packs.

Pino 😀
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Karlos on July 01, 2020, 12:19:14 PM
The site was working so I had to update my details and then I ordered the Celtic pack.

I am in the UK but my order was accepted  but now checking my order it is marked as pending, and they said tracking info would be emailed to me, I thought it would be a download, oh well we will see what happens.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: chesterkins on July 01, 2020, 12:48:45 PM
Karlos   I got stuck at trying to update personal info   kept sending me back to  repeat input No idea why   
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Oldden on July 01, 2020, 12:52:33 PM
US website seems to be up, UK is not. Free stuff very limited and poor choice.

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: elad770 on July 01, 2020, 01:09:51 PM
Guys, why don't everyone calm down a little bit?  ;D
It seems that you are sitting in front of the computer all the time and refreshing the page every 10 seconds to see what's going on  ;D

Know this: YOU WILL HAVE ALL YAMAHA PACKS AT THE END!
NO WORRIES
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on July 01, 2020, 01:12:32 PM
Thanks Elad😀 I will wait, that is best for the blood pressure😀😀
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Francesco Massa on July 01, 2020, 01:13:28 PM
Now it's online, with a new interface.

EDIT: sorry I haven't read last messages  :-\
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 01, 2020, 01:39:24 PM
Now it's online, with a new interface.

EDIT: sorry I haven't read last messages  :-\

And now its in maintenance again..

Looks like very Amateuristic ICT support..
Not what one would expect from a grade A company like Yamaha in 2020..
This all should have been tested toroughly in a safe environment before releasing online..
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: elad770 on July 01, 2020, 01:54:39 PM
Bachus,
I must agree with you!

I don't understand the gap between producing such a great instrument and ALL THE REST - all these tiny issues: Website slow, not working when you say so and other small things that are so surprising to me that Yamaha will still have such terrible practices
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 01, 2020, 01:56:08 PM
Hi John,
  Some people may enjoy these packs as they can't afford to purchase extra's for there keyboards.
You can't tar everyone with the same brush.

Hi Eileen
Well it is the baby Boomer in me.
I had to put German Oompah music on our stereogram (remember them) to keep Dad happy so i could get Half an hour of Deep Purple and Black Sabbath. Yamaha has forgotten the prog rocker generation Peace and all that rubbish with a flower in your hair!! ::) ;)

John :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: danand on July 01, 2020, 02:18:52 PM
Danand, don’t be so serious man 😀
Your supposed to be an ‘entertainer’

John is probably right.

Yamaha does not give much away,
Not even a free midi sequencer so that we can edit our midi recordings.

I would be very surprised if we were to have a ‘free and for all’ on all their packs.

Pino 😀

I'm not he only supposed 'entertainer' so why don't you try to follow your suggestion and "don’t be so serious"?

If you don't like the promoted material, just don't download it. No one will force you to do so.
If Yamaha or any other company decide to not distribute for free their work just don't buy from them and support by your decision as customer to buy from companies who give-away material you like and value, don't buy from Yamaha!

A quick question: when you buy your Yamaha arranger did they promise you something for free and they don't provide it?
If YES, then you have all the right to protest if NO, then you can accept what they decide to give-away for free otherwise just ignore it and look for companies who can provide for free what is valuable for you.

I also want for free the "BBC Symphony Orchestra Professional" by Spitfire for my Kontakt but they ask me to pay 1000 Euros...
What looser...

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 01, 2020, 02:30:03 PM
Hi Pino

It is maybe our wet humour does not cut it with dry humour.
The hole gets deeper for us AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!!! :P :P :P :P :P ::) ;D


All the best  "sweet nothin's"!!
John ;)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: LaHawk on July 01, 2020, 02:48:13 PM
Quote
Know this: YOU WILL HAVE ALL YAMAHA PACKS AT THE END!
it's Yamaha PRODUCED Packs.

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on July 01, 2020, 02:53:23 PM
It only takes a little patience for the web to work. These are Free Packs that we will be able to download.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 01, 2020, 02:58:11 PM
It only takes a little patience for the web to work. These are Free Packs that we will be able to download.

Actually they are packs that where allready free... but regio bound.. i.e. the european pack was free in Europe, the latin pack was free in south america... and so on..

The interesting packs are still to expensive for what they offer,
Which is a pitty, but we will survive...  the Genos is allready a dream to play witouth any packs..




Still maintenance here in eu..
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on July 01, 2020, 03:11:24 PM
@Bachus - you're right. Celtic wasn’t free, at least I don’t think he was. This is a screenshot I was able to capture while the web was running. Maybe something other than this will be free, we’ll see.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 01, 2020, 03:18:45 PM
They did say all packs so there a lot more to show up.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: rodrigo.b on July 01, 2020, 03:21:29 PM
I can’t add to the cart the saxophones pack :(
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: elad770 on July 01, 2020, 04:30:12 PM
Eileen,

I really want to believe that you are right because if this is ALL they had to give us I would again be disappointed. Their message: "All Premium packs, styles, and voices" built up a completely different expectation from what they actually give away. Most of these packs were free or already circulating in the community. Nothing to brag about! I know you are saying that some people will find them useful but for most of the users who are in this thread, this will be disrespectful to our intelligence. I really, really hope I'm wrong and they will release additional content.

Plus, I don't know if others experienced this but I added all the products to the cart - checked out and nothing happened. The order says pending and didn't receive any link to download. Does anyone already downloaded anything?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: LaHawk on July 01, 2020, 04:52:35 PM
Once Again, unless something has changed in the last 24 hours, and as per my phone call to MusicSoft, she stated "Only Yamaha produced Packs will be free" If it doesn't have the Yamaha logo, it's not free. 
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: elad770 on July 01, 2020, 05:06:16 PM
There's still a very good chance that I'm wrong because everyone is getting information from https://shop.usa.yamaha.com/
In this website, only few packs like previously stated in the picture above are shared. This is where I got my information from.
But Yamahamusicsoft is down which indicates that they are no finished yet! This still gives me hope that many more downloads will be available! Fingers crossed
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: elad770 on July 01, 2020, 05:09:06 PM
It only takes a little patience for the web to work. These are Free Packs that we will be able to download.

I think or at least want to think that you are mistaken
The Yamahamusicsoft is down for a long time and the information we are getting from other Yamaha sites might not be accurate.
I think there will be much more for us to download
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: DerekA on July 01, 2020, 05:17:46 PM
Once Again, unless something has changed in the last 24 hours, and as per my phone call to MusicSoft, she stated "Only Yamaha produced Packs will be free" If it doesn't have the Yamaha logo, it's not free.

The site's a bit of a pig's ear at the moment. Many packs  - Yahama and third party - are are not showing up at all. Some Yamaha branded ones are $0, but others are not. Placing an order gives a promise of an EMail (which hasn't turned up yet). The Pack List links don't work.

You've dropped the ball here Yamaha .... pushed into launching before it was actually ready?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 01, 2020, 05:32:21 PM
Hi

The site was always slow and it does not surprise me  what is happening.
It needs a bigger server to cope.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Joe H on July 01, 2020, 06:07:41 PM
I think or at least want to think that you are mistaken
The Yamahamusicsoft is down for a long time and the information we are getting from other Yamaha sites might not be accurate.
I think there will be much more for us to download

Don't count on it. Those of us who have been around for awhile know how Yamaha does business.  This is just a marketing strategy.  Those packs have been offer for free in the past.  Yamaha can't offer 3rd party packs for free.  And the best sellers?  Why should they give them away when people will pay for them?

Your whole concept of open architecture won't work for arranger keyboards as it does for cell phones.  The phone apps are mostly links to websites (bookmarks) or searches for price comparisons on certain products. Yamaha goes through extra efforts to protect the keyboard Operating System. If 3rd party developers were allowed to make "add-ons" it wouldn't be long before the OS would be totally corrupted BIG TIME.

In fact, Yamaha goes through a great lengths to build certain filters (non-native MIDI messages including MSB-LSB-PC that are not used by the keyboard) into the OS to prevent the keyboard from malfunctioning. Another message that is filtered is CC64 Sustain in style Parts.  That is why the keyboards are so reliable. I'm not talking about bugs fixes in the OS... there will always be those. It's the nature of software.

 ;)

Joe H
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Gill on July 01, 2020, 07:03:55 PM
Site is up now, but.....

NOTICE TO MUSICSOFT CUSTOMERS
Please note that some product categories and features are currently disabled while we improve the MusicSoft site experience. We appreciate your patience and expect the site to be fully functional in the next 1-2 weeks. If you have any questions, please contact Yamaha Online Customer Support.

There are currently10 regional packs listed for free, like Italy, Europe, Celtic, Latin, etc.  I "bought" several of them.  Not an immediate download apparently.  Waiting on email.

Note that filtering for zero priced items doesn't work.  Just sort by price and the free ones will come to the top.

I'm not sure these are newly free. Seems like I remember some of these were already free, but not positive of that. 

Update - never did get the promised email, but the packs did appear in my library.  Cool!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Esa on July 01, 2020, 07:14:24 PM
Who knows that the page is not a scam with phishing logos ?

regards Esa
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: SeaGtGruff on July 01, 2020, 07:25:56 PM
A lot of companies-- especially technical companies-- have their employees working remotely from home, so delays and snafus are pretty much par for the course right now.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: andy_v on July 01, 2020, 08:14:52 PM
If you go to
https://shop.usa.yamaha.com/en/downloadables/sound-expansion-library.html?product_list_order=price
there are currently 10 packs listed for $0.00. One of them is the "premium" Celtic pack.
So I ordered them and they've just appeared in my account library  :D
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 01, 2020, 08:18:17 PM
A lot of companies-- especially technical companies-- have their employees working remotely from home, so delays and snafus are pretty much par for the course right now.

Thats a bad excuse for software upgrades...
Everything is remotely accesible..

I found that working from home is more efficient
No one disturbing me..  allows me to produce more in a shorter time..
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 01, 2020, 09:11:45 PM
Does anyone know the reason why Yamaha is doing this??

It to me means  1-- Yamaha are closing the Arranger keyboards market down like Technics
                           2-- New keyboard on horizon with different format. Maybe a Montage with styles!!

                             3- Maybe they are being nice !! HOPE!! :) I cannot see this with a business.
The Great Sea Gruff says a lot now working from home ,so it all must be costing money just to do this.
Something is going on ?? behind the scenes.
Like i said "magic comes with a price"
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 01, 2020, 10:47:36 PM
I don't think there is anything sinister going on. The site has long needed an update so why not now.
Yamaha has not produced any large packs now for a while the site is full of third party packs.
Probably Yamaha want to concentrate more on there keyboards than produce packs. Some of these voices like the Sax are on Genos now and they just gave us more on the free pack for version 2.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Pino on July 02, 2020, 02:29:11 AM
Eileen is probably right and what further packs can they concentrate on, they have already done the country specific packs and we already have the best of the western music on our keyboards already so they may have run out of road on the pack business,
The same goes for the voices, we probably have the best already and they can see that the future is "making our own voices" through sampling or maybe they just didn’t make any money from it.

I am surprised that Yamaha, a top Japanese company could not get their act together and get this small website together on time, I’m looking at YAMAHA as, if they say 12 o’clock on the 30th, then it will be exactly on time. There shouldn’t be any excuses for this, just not good enough.

I see their keyboard in the same way, they make a good keyboard, we are able to record our songs in midi, but not able to do small edits to the songs, I mean what’s going on with the company,  there are small apps on the App Store that can edit Midi and WAV for just a few $ and the other fact is that they own Steinberg, one of the biggest music software producers in the world.

Maybe there’s a bit of a ‘shake up’ going on right now.

Pino
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: PhotoDoc05 on July 02, 2020, 02:56:07 AM
I just tried the shop.usa  link, and was quickly able to add 20 expansion packs that I see listed for free. I'm not sure, but it appears the order will be delivered by UPS? I printed an order confirmation, status is "PENDING", and it says Yamaha will send an email but I haven't received one just yet.

Some of the items have the same names, but different SKU  -- for example, SA2 Trombone listed twice, with YCJ-VP02-VG, and YCJ-VP02-G1.
With an SX-900, will I be able to even use either of these items?  Since they are SA2 voices?
Thanks, Jerry
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: hans1966 on July 02, 2020, 03:10:20 AM
Hi Pino, you are right that Yamaha may be looking in the other direction.

The musicsoft website is definitely too slow.

I am very upset since I have wasted all afternoon trying to download only 2 expansion packs, and when it seems that the download is going to be completed, the download starts again, it seems like a loop that does not finish.

Seeing that I was not successful with my 2 packages I decided to log out for today.
Tomorrow we will see if there is luck, otherwise I forget the matter.
Hans
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: hans1966 on July 02, 2020, 03:17:52 AM
I just tried the shop.usa  link, and was quickly able to add 20 expansion packs that I see listed for free. I'm not sure, but it appears the order will be delivered by UPS? I printed an order confirmation, status is "PENDING", and it says Yamaha will send an email but I haven't received one just yet.

Some of the items have the same names, but different SKU  -- for example, SA2 Trombone listed twice, with YCJ-VP02-VG, and YCJ-VP02-G1.
With an SX-900, will I be able to even use either of these items?  Since they are SA2 voices?
Thanks, Jerry




Hi Jerry, as far as I know, the premium packages that have SA2 voices are exclusive to Tyros 5 and Genos.
Therefore they are not compatible with SX900.
Regards. Hans

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: PhotoDoc05 on July 02, 2020, 03:31:26 AM
Hi Jerry, as far as I know, the premium packages that have SA2 voices are exclusive to Tyros 5 and Genos.
Therefore they are not compatible with SX900.
Regards. Hans


OK Hans, thanks, I suspected that would be the case, just wanted to be sure.  Well, I didn't realize it, but I checked my account, and all 20 items were in My Library, and available for download!  The US site is really fast and responsive, I could get download speeds of 250Mbps solidly, and less than 10 minutes to download all of them.
Regards, Jerry
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Dromeus on July 02, 2020, 08:34:06 AM
A question to the european users here that formerly logged into https://eu.yamahamusicsoft.com/. Can you log into the new site using your old credentials?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: entertain70 on July 02, 2020, 09:39:02 AM
A question to the european users here that formerly logged into https://eu.yamahamusicsoft.com/. Can you log into the new site using your old credentials?

Yes, it works. It asks you to update your informations.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Esa on July 02, 2020, 09:44:53 AM
SCHEDULED SITE MAINTENANCE
Scheduled website maintenance.
Yamaha MusicSoft is currently down while we upgrade the site.
Please check back soon.

I tried to sign in ...

regard Esa
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Stijn on July 02, 2020, 09:46:09 AM
Some of the downloaded packs have files with an SME extension, like this one: Choir_Vocals_Genos.sme

How to deal with this kind of file? There is a txt file with a key, what application is used to unpack it?

Stijn
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Dromeus on July 02, 2020, 09:57:05 AM
Yes, it works. It asks you to update your informations.

Interesting. In a second try I got to the page for updating my personal information. Upon sending my updates I get the message "error creating account". Nontheless I received a welcome e-mail "Thank you for registration". But the website doesn't let me sign in. In fact any attempt to navigate elsewhere in the shop.usa.yamaha.com domain - e.g. the "contact us" page to inform Yamaha about my problem - is impossible. I'm stuck in the "update personal information" page.

Must say this is the kind of user "experience" that I don't like too much...
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: chesterkins on July 02, 2020, 10:09:20 AM
Likewise MIchael  same experience    Stuck with Update Personal Info page
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: yammy on July 02, 2020, 11:19:00 AM
Hai, me too. What's happening?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 02, 2020, 11:40:51 AM
Have the same problem. As this is an American site it asks for a ZIP Code which we do not use in UK.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Dromeus on July 02, 2020, 12:54:41 PM
For testing puposes I entered the ZIP Code of a Washington D.C. district. It didn't accept that either  ;D
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Fikret_OEZ on July 02, 2020, 01:19:36 PM
Some of the downloaded packs have files with an SME extension, like this one: Choir_Vocals_Genos.sme

How to deal with this kind of file? There is a txt file with a key, what application is used to unpack it?

Stijn

Hi Stijn,

I have the same problem. In several other packs like "Euro_US_Organ_Genos.sme" the same problem. I have tried with YEM, we cann't import the file. In Internet I couldn't  find any hints for that. Maybe, somenone in the forum knows it.
Another problem is related to pack contents. The oriental pack has following files:
Oriental-GR-TR_SX900.cpf
Oriental-GR-TR_SX700.cpf
Oriental-GR-TR_S975.cpf
Oriental-GR-TR_S970.cpf
Oriental-GR-TR_S775.cpf
Oriental-GR-TR_S770.cpf
Oriental-GR-TR_S670.cpf

I have Genos, and in YEM it is not possible to import it and make a ppi-File for Genos.

Maybe an Advice for members in European Countries. To get access to US-Site, I have tested my German adress code: like 40468, it has been accepted. But I have to register my instrument with serial nr once again. European site is still down.
To download the packs, I was waiting for an e-mail from yamaha, which I have never received by now. Instead in my account, I have choosen my library, I could download all packs.

Kind greetings
Fikret
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: muddy on July 02, 2020, 01:28:01 PM
Hi

here is a list from free files downloaded from USA site, i live in UK but was able to download all free files.  I logged on with my e-mail and password as normal to access the files from my library account

02/07/2020  13:19    <DIR>          .
02/07/2020  13:19    <DIR>          ..
19/04/2016  17:45        31,394,782 1320990_wc045_s670_mexicanbanda_s670.zip
19/04/2016  17:45        68,903,298 1320991_wc045_s770_mexicanbanda_s770.zip
19/04/2016  17:45        68,903,306 1320992_wc045_s970_mexicanbanda_s970.zip
19/10/2017  21:31        81,084,670 alpen_genos.zip
19/04/2016  17:50       140,246,743 balkanturkeyt4.zip
19/04/2016  17:50       443,141,995 balkanturkeyt5.zip
25/01/2018  20:00        94,063,752 balkan_turkey_genos.zip
20/10/2017  21:30        84,518,225 best-of-europe.zip
19/04/2016  17:53       107,345,091 bestofeuropet4.zip
19/04/2016  17:52       451,364,120 bestofeuropet5.zip
02/07/2020  12:54       224,538,096 celtic_premiumpack.zip
02/07/2020  12:52       352,962,698 celtic_vse.zip
19/04/2016  17:59       103,471,852 choirvocalst4_1.zip
19/04/2016  17:59        83,022,571 choirvocalst5.zip
17/11/2017  00:54        87,721,242 choir_vocals_genos.zip
02/07/2020  13:00       399,802,314 churchandchristmas_vse.zip
02/07/2020  12:52       149,628,995 colors_of_iberia_2_premiumpacks.zip
02/07/2020  12:59       386,118,763 easterneurope.zip
19/04/2016  18:11        75,796,876 eurousorgant4.zip
19/04/2016  18:11        59,845,843 eurousorgant5.zip
16/11/2017  23:53        49,425,163 euro_us_organ_genos.zip
02/07/2020  12:55       415,274,867 greetingsfromitaly_v2_vse.zip
02/07/2020  12:29        46,343,463 indian_taals_1.zip
02/07/2020  12:55       232,121,915 latin-eu_vse.zip
19/04/2016  18:17        16,167,287 mariachinortenopack_s650.zip
19/04/2016  18:17        31,822,918 mariachi_norteno_pack_a2000.zip
19/04/2016  18:17        31,826,879 mariachi_norteno_pack_s7-950.zip
26/03/2018  23:40        82,314,493 mariachi_norteno_s775.zip
26/03/2018  23:39        82,316,548 mariachi_norteno_s975.zip
19/04/2016  18:17        34,562,680 mexicanbanda_a3000.zip
19/04/2016  18:17        32,377,213 mexicanbanda_s750s950.zip
12/11/2019  18:24        68,976,776 mexicanbanda_sx700.zip
12/11/2019  18:48        68,976,776 mexicanbanda_sx900.zip
19/04/2016  18:17        15,558,551 mexican_bandapack_s650.zip
19/04/2016  18:17        32,373,875 mexican_banda_pack_a2000.zip
26/03/2018  23:21        68,932,780 mexican_banda_s775.zip
26/03/2018  23:20        68,933,155 mexican_banda_s975.zip
19/04/2016  18:18        47,552,830 norteno_mariachi_a3000.zip
15/11/2016  19:25        32,082,187 norteno_mariachi_s670.zip
19/04/2016  18:18        82,347,142 norteno_mariachi_s770.zip
19/04/2016  18:18        82,347,157 norteno_mariachi_s970.zip
12/11/2019  21:41        82,429,595 norteno_mariachi_sx700.zip
12/11/2019  21:55        82,429,595 norteno_mariachi_sx900.zip
19/04/2016  18:24        15,777,304 sa2panflutest4_2.zip
19/04/2016  18:24        15,416,209 sa2panflutest5.zip
19/04/2016  18:24        15,569,982 sa2trombonet4.zip
19/04/2016  18:24         9,834,003 sa2trombonet5.zip
19/12/2017  00:40         9,596,247 sa2_trombone_genos.zip

I have not changed anything and have not tried anything on my GENOS yet.

Notice the dates on the files

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 02, 2020, 01:39:08 PM
Hi  Note for Rocket Scientist!! 8)

Now Yamaha are bamboozleing us
What is a SMEY KEY??  "Samsung Backup File"
or
Smiley Key  Emoticon?? . Beats Me!! :P

Maybe we have been Donald Trumped!!
Have Samsung hacked the Yamaha site???
Someone is having the last laugh on us!! ;D
Will have to wait for the English version.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Gunnar Jonny on July 02, 2020, 02:03:24 PM
The txt file with smekey is added in the folders where the file "Choir_Vocals_Genos.sme" and also in Alpen folder.
This is as far as I can understand it sound files. YEM don't read .sme, so I guess the manuals will tell.... well, if not anyone here have the solution of how to use?
The 'giveaways' is nice, but for those of us that have paid for most of it earlier, it's not much to gain.....

The big question after this event is: What next Yamaha? 🤔
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 02, 2020, 02:06:58 PM
Someone is having a Laugh ! ;D
What a cafuffle all this is.

"All Magic Comes With A Price"   Ol' Rumple is at it again or Sme-gal as he like-sis this "SNEAKY"!!!

"Hail Sample Robot"
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: soundphase on July 02, 2020, 03:41:06 PM
Are you sure Yamaha site wasn't hacked ?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on July 02, 2020, 03:46:28 PM
That is not the case. Hackers do not change the design for the better.  :D
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bob90 on July 02, 2020, 04:01:54 PM
In Google I found a Tip about .sme file in a Yamaha Claviona CLP-295GP Owner manual page 46  as a External Song file?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Stijn on July 02, 2020, 04:03:38 PM

Another problem is related to pack contents. The oriental pack has following files:
Oriental-GR-TR_SX900.cpf
Oriental-GR-TR_SX700.cpf
Oriental-GR-TR_S975.cpf
Oriental-GR-TR_S970.cpf
Oriental-GR-TR_S775.cpf
Oriental-GR-TR_S770.cpf
Oriental-GR-TR_S670.cpf

I have Genos, and in YEM it is not possible to import it and make a ppi-File for Genos.


Fikret

YEM won't accept those files because they're not suited for Genos. They are meant for the PSR SX900, SX700, S975, and so on, as mentioned in the file name.

Stijn
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: muddy on July 02, 2020, 04:04:23 PM
or a SMart Encryption file with the supplied key not much use if you dont have the software
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: DerekA on July 02, 2020, 04:07:11 PM
I'm sure it wasn't meant to be like this.

Downloading a "pack" is bringing down a zip with all versions in it. But the file is of type .sme with a 'key' file beside it. YEM doesn't like the file, even changing its extension to .cpf. I suspect they've missed something out in the sequence that generates the archive file to be downloaded. (SmartEncryptor didnt't recognise the file either by the way)

The Celtic pack also brought down athe T5 and Genos versions, but at least they were .cpf files. It loaded up into YEM, but I've not exported it to the Genos yet.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 02, 2020, 05:02:09 PM
Still getting linked to the us..

Cant log in there
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 02, 2020, 05:04:12 PM
Just think
Why would Yamaha put codes into the packs when they are giving them away free.

Sounds to me like Hackers at work here or Yamaha thinks it is april 1st
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Fikret_OEZ on July 02, 2020, 05:08:18 PM
YEM won't accept those files because they're not suited for Genos. They are meant for the PSR SX900, SX700, S975, and so on, as mentioned in the file name.

Stijn

Hi Stijn,

in the pack,for example Oriental (Greece & Turkey), there were no hint about it, which states that it is not suitable for Genos. Why should I download it, if I cann't use it?
Why there is no Oriental-GR-TR_GENOS.cpf, or at least ppf? From 18 packs I could download, I can only use thre packs for Genos:
Colors of Iberia 2 Genos.cpf,
Celtic_Genos.cpf and
EuroDance_SX900SX700.ppf.
Other packs are either in sme-format or cpf for other PSR-instruments, but no use for Genos.


The new pages from yamaha are not user friedly at all.

Kind greetings
Fikret

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: LaHawk on July 02, 2020, 05:09:24 PM
As a test, I was able to start my USA MusicSoft  "order" download of the Church & Christmas Pack. However after about 60 MB of the total 380 MB zip file, the server download resets itself to 0 and tries again. Finally after three times resetting to 0 a "Failed - Server problem" notice ends any progress. So it's obvious,the  MusicSoft server is either overloaded, or not quite ready to handle large downloads. I'll try again some other time.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: hans1966 on July 02, 2020, 05:25:09 PM
Hi guys, I still have the same problem as yesterday.
Now when I perform the download and it seems that it will be done at the end, a message appears: Error download incomplete !!

Another error is that on the wueb site, when I add a new item to the shopping cart, a message appears: "it has been added to the cart" but when I go to check another message appears: "There is nothing in your shopping cart"

The truth is frustrating not knowing what happened to your order. Hans
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: pjd on July 02, 2020, 05:33:50 PM
Hi folks --

This web site is horribly broken. There are basic user interface errors and I'm not sure the site is even populated (loaded) with all of the products. For example, it only lists 21 products and some of them are MIDI and style files!

I did manage to purchase the Celtic premium pack and try to download. The first download failed with "Server error". The next download would complete -- and then start all over again! I refreshed the "My Library" page, tried again and successfully downloaded celtic_premiumpack.zip.

This site is NOT ready for prime time. Our kid does this for a living and would be horrified to see what Yamaha or its site vendor have done.

Good luck to all -- pj
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: chesterkins on July 02, 2020, 05:36:00 PM
Reading all the threads it seems only one person has managed to access the site and download something  Am I right?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: hans1966 on July 02, 2020, 05:39:20 PM
It seems that he is the only one who has been lucky  :'(. Hans
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: pjd on July 02, 2020, 05:46:16 PM
Reading all the threads it seems only one person has managed to access the site and download something  Am I right?

Probably just a handful of us.

Hans, I had the same problem. The user interface would only acknowledge an item in my cart when I was logged in. If I added to the cart without logging in, it thought the cart was empty. Also, what's up with the suitcase icon for a shopping cart. Ridiculous choice of icon. It should be a cart.

I just unzipped celtic_premiumpack.zip. It contains three CPF files: Celtic_Genos.cpf, Celtic_T5.cpf and Celtic_T5_75.cpf. Each CPF file is 84MB. So, the ZIP file is 3 times bigger than necessary, requiring 3 times as much server bandwidth to download.

I've seen better university "senior projects" than this...  :o

All the best to everyone -- pj
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: tyrosman on July 02, 2020, 05:55:29 PM
this site is not working yet i had the same problem
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on July 02, 2020, 05:58:01 PM
Yes, this is a beginner’s approach in website restoration.

But you need to be patient and as far as I can see, soon (1-2 weeks) we will be able to download a lot of quality content for free. Premium Voice makes me most happy.

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: johnnychipito on July 02, 2020, 06:36:28 PM
I can add the files to my shopping chart and then it's asking me, to sign in. But, when I try to sign in the system is bouncing back and it keeps asking me for my personal info.

Has somebody an idea what could be the problem? I'm in Europe and everytime I'm going automatically to  the USA website and as Eileen is telling us it's asking for a zip code. If I put an USA zip code in, it keeps the same and nothing is happening. I'm also getting a pop up telling me, that you only can order in USD :-\

Maybe be have to wait longer ;D

John M.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: corsaman on July 02, 2020, 07:16:25 PM
hi all, any idea what to do with the .sme files?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 02, 2020, 07:36:40 PM
hi all, any idea what to do with the .sme files?


bin them
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: vlbrgt on July 02, 2020, 07:49:08 PM
Hello,

Where to download the order i made ?
I received a confirmation for my order and even an order number, but I cannot download it anywhere ?

Reagrds
Etienne
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bob90 on July 02, 2020, 07:51:44 PM
I can add the files to my shopping chart and then it's asking me, to sign in. But, when I try to sign in the system is bouncing back and it keeps asking me for my personal info.


I'm  in Europe too and signed in with my usual name and password and pressed the sign in Button. No zip code asked and all my credentials where OK.


Quote
I'm also getting a pop up telling me, that you only can order in USD :-\

If you only select the free packs you don't have to pay US Dollars  :)



Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Gunnar Jonny on July 02, 2020, 07:57:00 PM
Hello,

Where to download the order i made ?
I received a confirmation for my order and even an order number, but I cannot download it anywhere ?

Reagrds
Etienne

Sign in to your account, go to your page, at left side choose my library and download from there. (right side of the items titles)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Gunnar Jonny on July 02, 2020, 08:03:47 PM
Still getting linked to the us..

Cant log in there

So am I, but got in with the EU user and pass.
But, even if all personal data was there, I got confirmed as 'new customer', and all my library from the old site is not there. Guess they still have some work to do....
No problem 'order' and download the 'free' stuff, but I'm a bit confused about the --.sme files.🤔
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Karlos on July 02, 2020, 08:06:09 PM
Sign in to your account, go to your page, at left side choose my library and download from there. (right side of the items titles)

Good luck with that......I have tried 10 times to download the Celtic pack, and each time it it starts but fails before finishing.

Very fustrating. At least its unlimited downloads, thats one good thing I guess.

Give it time and it will sort itself out...LOL :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: vlbrgt on July 02, 2020, 08:18:58 PM
OK I was able to download some packs. Not all -> serverproblem ?

Unzipping gives me some .sme files -> What to do with these files ?
Does YEM recognize these files ?

Regards
Etienne
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: DerekA on July 02, 2020, 08:31:30 PM
I think they have messed up with the sme files, we will probably have to download again as cpf files.

The Celtic pack has loaded up into my genos, so thank you Yamaha for that!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 02, 2020, 08:35:37 PM
So am I, but got in with the EU user and pass.
But, even if all personal data was there, I got confirmed as 'new customer', and all my library from the old site is not there. Guess they still have some work to do....
No problem 'order' and download the 'free' stuff, but I'm a bit confused about the --.sme files.🤔

My EU account does not work..  on theUS website
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 02, 2020, 09:44:22 PM
Yes the celtic pack is the only one that works
Bin the rest and wait
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: niayinii on July 02, 2020, 09:53:40 PM
Hi
can't  get access  can some one  share  downloaded
Br
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Gunnar Jonny on July 02, 2020, 10:21:55 PM
Yes the celtic pack is the only one that works

Really? 🤔
I've just installed two pacs that I did not have at Genos, and it works well.
Earlier today I downloaded a lot of the others, did it even if I have no use of it at the moment.
The only thing that make me wonder just now, is the .sme and keyfiles in the Genos choir and alpen voicepacks.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: corsaman on July 02, 2020, 10:36:37 PM
yes
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: SeaGtGruff on July 02, 2020, 10:58:57 PM
Also, what's up with the suitcase icon for a shopping cart. Ridiculous choice of icon. It should be a cart.

I think it's meant to represent a shopping bag.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 02, 2020, 11:35:25 PM
That is why Michael Rodeout!!! 8) :P ;D
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: tyrosrick on July 03, 2020, 12:42:44 AM
THIS NEW YAMAHA MUSICSOFT SITE IS A TOTAL, COMPLETE ABOMINATION; AND ABSOLUTE FAILURE! IT SEEMS LIKE SOME 9 YEAR OLD PUT IT TOGETHER. NOTHING WORKS...PERIOD. COMPLETE SHAM!!!!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: jazzy_beat on July 03, 2020, 01:02:20 AM
THIS NEW YAMAHA MUSICSOFT SITE IS A TOTAL, COMPLETE ABOMINATION; AND ABSOLUTE FAILURE! IT SEEMS LIKE SOME 9 YEAR OLD PUT IT TOGETHER. NOTHING WORKS...PERIOD. COMPLETE SHAM!!!!

Sure...!
It's incomprehensible as a leading company in its field, allow this absolute disaster. The programming of the site seems to be done by a bad newbie.
Before uploading a new website, you need to test it offline by simulating stressful situations, and wait until everything works properly.
However, Yamaha is also to be thanked for this magnificent gift.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 03, 2020, 01:10:06 AM
I told you so Dearie!!! ;D :P

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: svpworld on July 03, 2020, 08:56:54 AM
Clearly the website isn't properly running yet, it's extremely slow (although it was before they upgraded it) and the downloads don't complete when you try any of them, just time out.  I guess it's best to give it a few weeks for the team to get it sorted out.  From what I've seen so far though (I'm in the UK by the way), most of what is free was given away in the premium pack when Genos was upgraded to v2 OS.  I ordered 25 or 26 free files and I'm unable to successfully download any of them, so glad I didn't pay out for anything yet.  I'll come back to it in a few weeks and have another try. :-)   It's definitely not the best website I've come across, awful user experience, painfully slow, probably not very accessible and not intuitive at all (I work in digital communications!).

Regards

Simon
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: wolfram on July 03, 2020, 09:43:50 AM
I have forget my password.I ask for a new password .There comes everytime the next:we send you a E-Mail with the link to becomes a new password.
After three day's i recieved nothing in my mail box.Who can help me?
thanks before,
wolfram
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: overover on July 03, 2020, 09:48:19 AM
I have forget my password.I ask for a new password .There comes everytime the next:we send you a E-Mail with the link to becomes a new password.
After three day's i recieved nothing in my mail box.Who can help me?
thanks before,
wolfram

Hi Wolfram,

check the Spam folder of your email account. I received several emails from them, and some of them I found in the Spam folder...

Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 03, 2020, 10:01:03 AM
Oh Dear, Dear ,Dear, Dear, Dear!!

I said at the beginning the original site was too slow .
Yamaha needs a bigger server and a decent programmer.
It will take them months to get it right at this rate.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Stitch26 on July 03, 2020, 11:01:26 AM
I recently downloaded several free extension packs and was totally confused with the .sme files. I thought I was missing something in the down load procedure. Alas, these comments have assured me of the prevailing problem many of us are enduring. Maybe Yamaha will correct this annoyance soon.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bill on July 03, 2020, 11:11:57 AM
Hi All

Come on Guys.   Just be patient.

Yamaha has said that it will take a week or two to sort it all out.

For those people that do not live in the USA  just wait until your country shop window appears. There is little point in going to the USA Site as your details are not there.  Yes, you may be able to log on and download loads of stuff you do not need, but when you come to actually purchase something in the future you will have some problem.  Each of the local country's shop window has all the currency, language, Tax details, etc. ---- so just be patient.

There is more change on the horizon -  so no need to download things just because it's free.  It NOT a short-lived sale.

Regards

Bill
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Oldden on July 03, 2020, 11:14:24 AM
Just to confuse things. Look up sme files and you get..


Samsung Kies Messages Backup

SME file is a Samsung Kies Messages Backup. Samsung Kies is a software that lets you connect your mobile phone to a PC and it synchronizes data for easy transfer.

Yamaha must mean something else.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: overover on July 03, 2020, 11:33:07 AM
Just to confuse things. Look up sme files and you get..


Samsung Kies Messages Backup

SME file is a Samsung Kies Messages Backup. Samsung Kies is a software that lets you connect your mobile phone to a PC and it synchronizes data for easy transfer.

Yamaha must mean something else.

The .sme extension is also used for encrypted archive files created by the program "SmartEncryptor".

I guess that these .sme files are for "Yamaha internal" use (and published only by mistake).

Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: voodoo on July 03, 2020, 12:47:11 PM
The .sme extension is also used for encrypted archive files created by the program "SmartEncryptor".

I guess that these .sme files are for "Yamaha internal" use (and published only by mistake).

Best regards,
Chris

Hi Chris,

I had the same idea. The extension .sme is connected to a program called Smart Encryptor. I found a very old version of this discontinued software and found out, that the Smart Encryptor cannot unpack the .sme files from Yamaha. Also, encrypted archives generated with Smart Encryptor do have another file structure than the SME files from Yamaha. So I guess, that this trail does not lead to a solution. ;)

However, the SME files do begin with the file header XPFH. This is the same header used by PPF and CPF files. So SME seems to be a own file format of Yamaha. I tried to rename the SME to PPF or CPF and put it into the Expansion Mangager. Of course, this did not work. ;)

So I think, that SME is an Yamaha internal file format, not intended to be published. Or we will see a new version of YEM that is able to open SME. Who knows....

Uli

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Gunnar Jonny on July 03, 2020, 12:56:55 PM
So I think, that SME is an Yamaha internal file format, not intended to be published. Or we will see a new version of YEM that is able to open SME. Who knows....

Probably close to the truth. But, there is also a key in textfile enclosed the zipped files, that make me think will work as a password to acsess or open the files by use of a proper software, or maybe directly at the keyboard? 🤔
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Dromeus on July 03, 2020, 03:58:41 PM
Quote from: Billlink=topic=55896.msg436210#msg436210 date=1593771117
For those people that do not live in the USA  just wait until your country shop window appears. There is little point in going to the USA Site as your details are not there.

Hi Bill

I'm not going to the USA site. I'm REDIRECTED from https://eu.yamahamusicsoft.com to the new site, so this is by intention of Yamaha (Europe).

I'm not sure what you mean by "your details", but fact is that the new site DOES recognize my credentials (id, password), so this has obviously been migrated.

I think it is little point in shutting down the old site while redirecting me to a new site that is all the way useless (for me and obviously for others too). I'm a very  patient guy ;D but having worked as a SW developer for > 40 years I think Yamaha's migration is a big mess which would not have been tolerated by my employers if I've ever rolled out such junk to any customer.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bob90 on July 03, 2020, 04:02:39 PM
Probably close to the truth. But, there is also a key in textfile enclosed the zipped files, that make me think will work as a password to acsess or open the files by use of a proper software, or maybe directly at the keyboard? 🤔

I found a Tip about deleting a sme file in a Yamaha Claviona CLP-295GP Owner manual page 46

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: dflstarry on July 03, 2020, 04:41:10 PM
I found a Tip about deleting a sme file in a Yamaha Claviona CLP-295GP Owner manual page 46
What is it, Please  ;D
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: DerekA on July 03, 2020, 04:48:11 PM
Come on Guys.   Just be patient.
Yamaha has said that it will take a week or two to sort it all out.

I understand what you are saying. But Yamaha have really botched this. I mean glitches are one thing, but this is an epic fail :)

Most people would probably agree that the packs were somewhat overpriced to start with. But suddenly deciding to give away for free what cost several hundred pounds last week, is something that I would have thought they would have wanted to take a bit more care over. They created excitement and interest with the tease of the packs being made available for free, then squandered it.

Saddest part is, their new site was built using Magento which is a ready-rolled framework for building ecommerce sites. All they had to do was design the custom content.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Al Ram on July 03, 2020, 05:29:28 PM
Well, on the good side . . . i was able to 'buy' several Yamaha packages at zero cost.  They are now in my Yamaha library when I log-in and ready to download.

The bad news is that when trying to download to my computer every single download fails . . .  i have checked my computer settings and do not find anything that would be at fault on my side . . . . in fact managed to download one sme file that i do not know what to do with it.   

Other than that, every download is failing for me.. . . .

Will keep on trying i guess.

Greetings everyone

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: kla4 on July 03, 2020, 05:34:11 PM
Just found out that the SME files are NOT encrypted. In fact the 'free versions' (SME) are missing a (fix sized) block of data from address 0008 to 0060 compared to the (payed) .cpf files.
From address 0060 up the .cpf file is identical to the .sme file.

What we have to find out : What data needs to be inserted from address 0008 to 0060?

Now I wonder: Do we all get the same smekey for e.g. SA2 Panflutes? (mine is 6E343A01134ECCAEA45C96ABF1A3****)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bob90 on July 03, 2020, 06:18:13 PM
Just found out that the SME files are NOT encrypted. In fact the 'free versions' (SME) are missing a (fix sized) block of data from address 0008 to 0060 compared to the (payed) .cpf files.
From address 0060 up the .cpf file is identical to the .sme file.

What we have to find out : What data needs to be inserted from address 0008 to 0060?

Look at post from Stijn

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,55896.msg436096.html#msg436096
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: kla4 on July 03, 2020, 06:40:43 PM
@Bob90:
I'm sorry, what is there to see regarding to my post/finding?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bob90 on July 03, 2020, 06:59:29 PM
@kla4

I'm sorry too, nothing regarding your finding. I only wanted to point out that they are not for the Genos.
Sorry my mistake.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: soryt on July 03, 2020, 07:30:07 PM
Why downloading the panflute's and trombones ?  they are already standard on the Genos .

S  :D
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: chony on July 03, 2020, 07:31:40 PM
I understand what you are saying. But Yamaha have really botched this. I mean glitches are one thing, but this is an epic fail :)

Most people would probably agree that the packs were somewhat overpriced to start with. But suddenly deciding to give away for free what cost several hundred pounds last week, is something that I would have thought they would have wanted to take a bit more care over. They created excitement and interest with the tease of the packs being made available for free, then squandered it.

Saddest part is, their new site was built using Magento which is a ready-rolled framework for building ecommerce sites. All they had to do was design the custom content.

Unfortunately Yamaha has a long history of botched releases and delays. You’d think Yamaha would have their * together.

Anyone remember the ridiculous and irrelevant ad campaign for Genos?
And then it was months before you could use your packs with Genos.
Or the botched Tyros 5 release without the ability to customize bc they hadn’t through of YEM.
Not to mention the completely bugged YEM early releases. 
Or the totally bugged Tyros 4.

And not even getting into the lack of creativity and originality in keeping their TOTL arrangers up to date with advances in modern music.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: mikechavez on July 03, 2020, 08:48:16 PM
The new YAMAHA page is totally disappointing, I have been trying to download the Mexican Banda package for 3 days (maybe a hundred of intends) without success. At this time, the page sends me the "502 Bad Gateway" message. It is incredible that a company like Yamaha suffers with an update of its website.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on July 03, 2020, 08:59:24 PM
I value my health, so I stay away from this! Not worth getting a heart attack over bad computer programs when my instruments are working fine as is. But this is a shame, and a disrespect to all Yamaha costumers!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 03, 2020, 10:00:42 PM
I have forget my password.I ask for a new password .There comes everytime the next:we send you a E-Mail with the link to becomes a new password.
After three day's i recieved nothing in my mail box.Who can help me?
thanks before,
wolfram

Same problem here, i asked for a new password.. no mails received
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 03, 2020, 10:03:35 PM
Just found out that the SME files are NOT encrypted. In fact the 'free versions' (SME) are missing a (fix sized) block of data from address 0008 to 0060 compared to the (payed) .cpf files.
From address 0060 up the .cpf file is identical to the .sme file.

What we have to find out : What data needs to be inserted from address 0008 to 0060?

Now I wonder: Do we all get the same smekey for e.g. SA2 Panflutes? (mine is 6E343A01134ECCAEA45C96ABF1A3****)

I think those SME files just mean there is something smelly, something that smells like dissaster in the air.  But then its 2020, looks like its going to that kind of year where every apple falls on top of someone’s head. So maybe Yamaha should stay away from the Coconut trees?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: soryt on July 03, 2020, 10:20:34 PM
I am a MusicSoft customer from the beginning ,and I have purchased a lot of packs and styles in the past years for more than a thousand euros,s , is it strange that I now feel a bit of “ ripped off “ with this action ?
This means that there isn’t to expect more new content from Yamaha , and there will bee soon a successor for the Genos with a new system  for styles and voices managing .
I am very pleased with the Genos as arranger keyboard , But Yem is always in my opinion a non user friendly program and for a lot of customers a big “pain in the a**” , and the MusicSoft site was for years the most slowest  webpage I knew , but it worked with his shortcomings.
Now it isn’t possible to see all my purchased content what I have bought  in the past , it constantly freezes up.
Yamaha’s arranger department is making a lot of mistakes with websites and user software for arrangers ,why can they make for the synth department a lot of good apps and software (editing & sounds) and for the arrangers wich cost a lot more ( the instruments) they can’t get it right ?
I played all the Tyrosses 1 to 5  and off course now the Genos, I have so much styles and voices collected that to jump to a other brand isn’t possible and i loses years of work for editing and programming .
I Hope that the Genos 2 have a better build, better surface, better buttons, smaller form factor, and all on board voice and style editing and of course no Yem .

Soryt  :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: hans1966 on July 03, 2020, 10:49:32 PM
Hi Guys, I made the mistake of downloading the Premium package "ballroom" thinking it was compatible with SX900, but I didn't realize it until I passed it through YEM, which told me that "The Package you are trying to load is NOT compatible with your instrument "

But on the yamaha musicsoft website. there is not enough information about the compatibility of some packages with our instruments.

Even when I put the word PSR-S or PACKS PSR-S, even packages for GENOS, MONTAGE, and MOXF appear.
By this I mean that the products (packages in this case) are NOT well classified by Instrument and / or model.

Has the same thing happened to someone else? or am I the only one. Hans
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: niayinii on July 03, 2020, 11:33:25 PM
i want to try some  of the packs but  i can't get through user update fails
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Geria on July 03, 2020, 11:55:01 PM
Hans, I had the same problem, tried and tried to download for my PSR S975 that is not even mentioned in the description of the packs. Their new website defies logic and is not user friendly. I have enough stuff already.

Gerry
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: hans1966 on July 04, 2020, 12:46:50 AM
Hi Gerry, we have to wait a couple of weeks more to see if the navigation on the website improves.
Regards.  Hans
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Patrick on July 04, 2020, 01:20:55 AM
Hi all, the Yamaha website is working now nearly perfectly; so we've to wait but thank you Yamaha for all, i wish you all, a nice weekend Patrick
 ;)

PS: in the packs you've  CPF files for the Yamaha PSR S670 to the PSR SX900
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: niayinii on July 04, 2020, 10:08:24 AM
Has  anybody outside the US updated successfully i seem to  get error can't  access
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: chesterkins on July 04, 2020, 10:12:29 AM
Not working for me in the UK  Just keep being asked for Personal info 
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: niayinii on July 04, 2020, 10:38:21 AM
Same applies, I've tried several times  but no avail am sure will be  rectified
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 04, 2020, 11:27:04 AM
Hi
There must be someone on this site that knows someone in Yamaha and maybe get some clarification.
Or a representaive from Yamaha to come onto this site.
Otherwise it is going to be winding up everyone as it certainly is.
There is not a lot free and it is not worth worrying about in my view.
If it is solved all well and good .If not noboby has lost anything.

One nun has not got nun, so the other nun cant have nun  ;) ::) :P
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: wolfram on July 04, 2020, 11:41:18 AM
Same problem,i asked(since 30/06/2020) for a new password,but no mails received.Is this perhaps a joke from Yamaha?
greetings,
wolfram >:( >:( >:( 8) :-\
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: RoyB on July 04, 2020, 12:49:10 PM
Earlier this morning from the UK, I managed to complete an order of several packs. Did not need to re-enter personal details. It said I would get an email with instructions/link on how to get the packs.

No email - Still waiting (3 hours later).

Regards

Roy
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 04, 2020, 01:00:28 PM
Some people have found these packs have been loaded to there account. Have you checked.
   They did say it would take time to get non USA members sorted so be patient and it will happen.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: jugge on July 04, 2020, 01:03:14 PM
Has  anybody outside the US updated successfully i seem to  get error can't  access

Same here. After logging in, I get to the "update information" page. After completing the required information, I get either "502 bad gateway" or "More user information required"
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Fred Smith on July 04, 2020, 01:06:01 PM
Earlier this morning from the UK, I managed to complete an order of several packs. Did not need to re-enter personal details. It said I would get an email with instructions/link on how to get the packs.

No email - Still waiting (3 hours later).

The e-mail never came for me either. But you can just go back into the site, find your order, and you will see links where you can download each pack.

However, I was never able to successfully download any of the larger files.

Cheers,
Fred
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: soryt on July 04, 2020, 01:17:19 PM
Never had any e mail after downloading , packs are now useless because they have a other extension  , only one pack works that was the Celtic
Why cant Yamaha do it the right way  ??  :-[ :-[

Soryt  :-[
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Fred Smith on July 04, 2020, 02:00:16 PM
Never had any e mail after downloading , packs are now useless because they have a other extension  , only one pack works that was the Celtic
Why cant Yamaha do it the right way  ??  :-[ :-[

Good question. Any goodwill they hoped to gain by offering the packs free has been lost by the dysfunctional website.

Cheers,
Fred
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: andy_v on July 04, 2020, 02:31:46 PM
There are 10 packs in the mysterious and tantalising SME format, but 14 other free packs in familiar formats, so I'm still feeling pretty good about developments so far, on the whole : )
Admittedly only two of the "unpackable" packs include Genos-specific content, as far as I can see - the premium Celtic pack and "Colours of Iberia 2". But that's two more than I had at the start of the week.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bill on July 04, 2020, 04:23:07 PM
I am a MusicSoft customer from the beginning ,and I have purchased a lot of packs and styles in the past years for more than a thousand euros,s , is it strange that I now feel a bit of “ ripped off “ with this action ?

Soryt  :)

Hi Soryt

I understand how you feel. I myself have paid over £1100 for expansion content, plus a lot more that were special free downloads, etc. for registering the keyboard. 
I do not currently have any intention of selling my Genos, however, if I did (before the change in Yamaha policy)  I could have given (sold) my purchases to a prospective owner for something in the order of £400.  Now they are pretty much worthless.

However, it is something that we will just have to accept and move on.

The one thing that frequently annoys me though, is that Yamaha NEVER really keep their customers in the picture, and would never ever apologize.

Regards

Bill
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: sunny on July 04, 2020, 06:04:38 PM
Hi All,

After downloading Indian Taals pack, when i try to load into YEM for my Tyros5 , The error message getting as " This pack could not be imported because there is no instrument capable of using this pack".

Anybody experiencing the same problem ?

Sunny
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: MIKEP on July 04, 2020, 06:43:56 PM
In reply to soryt concerning pan flute the one on Genos is not articulation. The downloadable one is and is excellent.
Mike
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Esa on July 04, 2020, 07:40:33 PM
Absolutely amazing poor performance and marketing from Yamaha. How can they afford that? Just like schoolchildren made a site! Stinky Greetings from Finland!
regards esa
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Gunnar Jonny on July 04, 2020, 08:35:43 PM
QUOTE from the MusicSoft site:

NOTICE TO MUSICSOFT CUSTOMERS
Please note that some product categories and features are currently disabled while we improve the MusicSoft site experience. We appreciate your patience and expect the site to be fully functional in the next 1-2 weeks. If you have any questions, please contact Yamaha Online Customer Support.

It's mentioned earlier in this thread, so maybe we just shall be a bit more patient and give it some time before we judge it too hard?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 04, 2020, 09:54:33 PM
Hi
This is reply from Yamaha about SME and Genos -- "What about the Genos???
Hi John,

Thanks for getting back to me.    For the Tyros 5, they are irrelevant, and can be deleted if you so wish.   
If you also own a Tyros 4, you will need to load the license key into it prior to loading the sme files.

I hope this helps, but if you have any further questions, please let me know.

Kindest Regards,
Donald

Ps How do you load the licence key??
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: tyrosaurus on July 04, 2020, 10:02:17 PM
In reply to soryt concerning pan flute the one on Genos is not articulation. The downloadable one is and is excellent.
Mike

The Pan Flute voices included in the Genos V.2.0 Superior Pack update are S.Art2 and are the same voices as supplied with the Pan Flutes Premium Pack!  Same with the S. Art2 Trombone and Female Vocals!

All are nice voices and worth having, but Genos owners who have installed the Version 2.0 update will already have them!


Regards

Ian
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 04, 2020, 10:26:04 PM
Yes and we also have the sax voices now on Genos so no need for them now.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: MIKEP on July 04, 2020, 10:42:58 PM
Thank you Ian.
I stand corrected!
Mike
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 05, 2020, 12:18:04 AM
Hi
I found out that SME files are popular in USA and that is where the site is at the moment

So trying to open these files is futile until Europe gets a move on.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: soundphase on July 05, 2020, 07:27:10 AM
I bought some expansions previously that are now free, too.

It's clear that Genos engine is far more powerful than Tyros one but core sound technologies didn't evolve a lot since SA2 (Tyros 3).

So, I now hope Yamaha is preparing a big sound improvement justifying samples from older technologies are now given freely, and announcing a new generation of sounds.

That's also a marketing approach for their clients to give them freely.

Yamaha could plan not to design and sell a new Genos2 but to propose new high-quality sound packs. Perhaps a better way to deliver a quicker return on investments.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: acparker on July 05, 2020, 10:43:28 AM
I guess I won't be seeing these 'free-bies' any time soon.

Every time I try to log in, I get:

  "The account sign-in was incorrect or your account is disabled temporarily. Please wait and try again later."

and if I try to reset the password, I get:

  "We're unable to send the password reset email."

Oh well,  I like what I have, but am always will to expand, if the cost is right.  Free fits that bill.

Adam
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: chesterkins on July 05, 2020, 11:45:43 AM
To be honest     Yamaha have not officially announced the new website nor freebies   (at least here in the UK)  I have only learnt about this from here and other interested sites  So we cannot complain about stuff that has been leaked about
Yamaha are certainly not an IT company like Apple who have made bigger cock ups than this
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 05, 2020, 12:31:44 PM
Give it a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Dromeus on July 05, 2020, 02:06:18 PM
Yamaha have not officially announced the new website nor freebies [...] So we cannot complain about stuff that has been leaked about

In this world of constantly evolving websites announcing even relaunches are out of fashion. There is nothing that has "leaked". Yamaha did deploy the website to the public. The well-known and well-established Yamaha webshop URL does redirect you automatically to the new site. If it is not intended to be used it shouldn't go public. It is good SW developing practice to do sufficient testing on a staging server before going live. It is true that Yamaha is not an IT company. That's why there are countless first class IT consultants/service providers in the market that could provide a professional product. This is just YAYEF (yet another Yamaha epic fail) we've seen others over the years.

[off- or maybe not so off-topic: about nine months ago the German Yamaha user forum (that existed some 20 years) was shut down without warning because of "technical difficulties". User's were informed that Yamaha is working hard to relaunch the forum. Nine months later, after "very intensive investigations" Yamaha claimed it is impossible to operate the user forum due to privacy protection requirements.]

Extra credit: A good laugh and a long sleep are the two best cures for anything  ;D.
Title: Premium packs - downloaded but get sme files : what to do next
Post by: bpsafran on July 05, 2020, 05:55:00 PM
Greetings:

I managed, after many tried, to download some of the free Premium packs.  When unzipped, they gave .sme files which are not readable by expansion manager.  Any advice on how to proceed?  I looked at Google for programs for decrypting sme files but they did not work.

Thanks

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Al Ram on July 05, 2020, 05:56:19 PM
Well,  I would like to thank Teknoss, for the first post on this thread . . . . for providing the info and link in advance . . . .

I also would like to thank Yamaha for this unexpected gift.   I have managed to download 6 new packs that are now into my Genos Expansion area. . . . this should increase the keyboard re-sale value . . .  yes, i had to wait a bit. . . . .  with some frustration along the way . . . . . 

Yes, the yamaha site was frustrating but i think part of the problem was that we were all trying to 'buy' stuff at same time. The web site is not prepared for a buying rush like this, I can understand it because normally they probably sell one or two a day if that much.

Then the downloading was also frustrating with the error messages, etc. same issue. . . an unexpected number of people downloading at same time . . . . . but just keep trying, it is free . . . 

Of course the Yamaha Expansion Manager is not a walk in the park. . . but again it is free and once you kind of understand it,  it works fine.  (not sure that i completely understand it, but it worked for my purposes).

In the end, the way I look at it . . . . it was free . . . . for me well worth the work i had to do.  I put in maybe 5-8 hours here and there for almost one thousand US dollars in value .. . . . . not bad.

This is only my opinion/comments and do not in any way intent to discount any comments to the contrary. 

Greetings Everyone. 

Thanks

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Al Ram on July 05, 2020, 06:04:19 PM
Now one last question,  i still have a couple of SME files pending . . . .do not know what to do with these SME files  .  .  . . .anyone ?

I also have one CPF file . . . . for the Latin South Europe pack for which i got an YEM error message.. .  maybe this one is not compatible with Genos ?

anyone had a chance to figure it out ?

Thanks everyone
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Gunnar Jonny on July 05, 2020, 06:33:51 PM
Now one last question,  i still have a couple of SME files pending . . . .do not know what to do with these SME files  .  .  . . .anyone ?

Take a look at ugawoga's post above in this thread.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Al Ram on July 05, 2020, 06:50:06 PM
Gunnar Johnny

thanks a lot for your response . . . . i looked at Ugawoga's post like you suggested . . . i found this response from him (see below).  Not sure if this is the comment you are referring to but it does not answer my question.  He is referring to T5 and T4, i do have a Genos.

Anyway, thanks

p.s. i think this thread is getting too long to find anything easily . . . i guess i can start a new post with my question(s).   Thanks again . . . .

Hi
This is reply from Yamaha about SME and Genos -- "What about the Genos???
Hi John,

Thanks for getting back to me.    For the Tyros 5, they are irrelevant, and can be deleted if you so wish.   
If you also own a Tyros 4, you will need to load the license key into it prior to loading the sme files.

I hope this helps, but if you have any further questions, please let me know.

Kindest Regards,
Donald

Ps How do you load the licence key??

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Gunnar Jonny on July 05, 2020, 09:05:55 PM
He is referring to T5 and T4, i do have a Genos.

Yes, I did notice that too. As you, I have Genos, and even when I had T4 I never did see any .sme files when download from the shop.
I can see in some of the Genos files downloaded that the .sme filetype is there too.
I think there is a mistake done by Yamaha, and that it will be corrected when they discover it. 🤔
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 05, 2020, 09:26:20 PM
Hi
What the Yamaha guy said is what you read.
The licence Key is for the Genos as that is what i asked about and what to do with the key ,  but got that sketchy email back.
I do think someone has made a BOO BOO!!
If you load things like that in ,the firmware might go BANG!! ::)Lol
Anyway life goes on

All the Best
John :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: andy_v on July 05, 2020, 11:40:09 PM
I can't make head or tail of the reply from the Donald - can you?!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: DerekA on July 06, 2020, 10:36:58 AM
Nobody knows what to do with the SME files. It's almost certainly a mistake in the site and we should be getting CPF files.

It's a bit sad, though, that there's not even a message on the site to say that there's a problem with the downloads. It would be better to remove them until they are fixed.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 06, 2020, 02:26:15 PM
SME files hold information only and are best deleted. Can we pleased now go onto a different subject.
This one has been done to death.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: tyrosman on July 06, 2020, 02:41:49 PM
well said Eileen i think enough is enough >:(
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Gunnar Jonny on July 06, 2020, 03:44:34 PM
SME files hold information only and are best deleted. Can we pleased now go onto a different subject.
This one has been done to death.

All datafiles holds information, and if look to .sme, some are as huge as the addonpacks, and the only file except the txt file with the key insie the download.
It may be so it's much talked about, and that's perfectly legal.
My theory is that Yamaha has messed it up, and that it is a encrypted filetype Yamaha use internal before ditribute as the usual formats.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 06, 2020, 03:57:37 PM
"If It is all about you , what about SME"!! ;D ::) :P
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Gunnar Jonny on July 06, 2020, 04:51:06 PM
I expect the SMEKEY is needed to create the 'personal datablock' that has to be inserted in the header.

That make sence. When buy a pack at store, it will be loaded with our instrument ID, and most likely it's automaticly generated in 'persobnal' pack before we can download.
It's probably the header missing and difference between .sme and .cpf?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: sunny on July 06, 2020, 06:28:28 PM
Now one last question,  i still have a couple of SME files pending . . . .do not know what to do with these SME files  .  .  . . .anyone ?

I also have one CPF file . . . . for the Latin South Europe pack for which i got an YEM error message.. .  maybe this one is not compatible with Genos ?

anyone had a chance to figure it out ?

Thanks everyone

I downloaded Indian Taals pack, when i try to load into YEM for my Tyros5 , The error message getting as " This pack could not be imported because there is no instrument capable of using this pack".

What a disappointment !

Sunny
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: soryt on July 07, 2020, 10:49:48 AM
Get a nice answer from Yamaha :

We've noticed that some of the packs were downloading in the SME format and our team is working to resolve this.  You should be receiving CPF files when downloading.  Please try your download again and if you continue to see the SME file, let us know which pack you are having trouble with.

We apologize that your orders aren't showing on the account yet.  Please be patient while we work on importing all of your previous orders.  We're hoping to have the orders available in the next couple weeks. 

Our understanding is that the YEM software will still continue to be used for expansion pack installations and that expansion packs are still being developed.

S  8)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: dflstarry on July 07, 2020, 11:40:45 AM
The 2 files I just tried to down load is still SME files.
Euro & US Organ & Best of Europe
Thank You
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 07, 2020, 12:21:56 PM
Why keep trying when they are telling you it will take a couple of weeks to get everything running properly. just play your keyboard and enjoy.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Aquilauno on July 07, 2020, 02:24:05 PM
kindly someone can tell me what I should insert under zip ... just out of curiosity ...
I gave up downloading the packs that interested me Italy and Iberia ...
Can anyone make these two packs available?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 07, 2020, 04:03:06 PM
kindly someone can tell me what I should insert under zip ... just out of curiosity ...
I gave up downloading the packs that interested me Italy and Iberia ...
Can anyone make these two packs available?

Zip code, refers to the area you live in..
We also use them in the Netherlands


Seems the EU website is gone..
We only have these files available now on the US website
Not a problem..
But then the US website has not addapted to this..
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 07, 2020, 04:09:59 PM
LISTEN TO WHAT EILEEN SAID :P :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Joe H on July 07, 2020, 04:47:01 PM
LISTEN TO WHAT EILEEN SAID :P :)

It's the greed factor for something FREE. Some people will grab ANYTHING that is for FREE even if they never use it! It's also compulsive addictive behavior like looking at your cell phone every five minutes.

 :D

Joe H
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Gunnar Jonny on July 07, 2020, 04:53:54 PM
It's also compulsive addictive behavior like looking at your cell phone every five minutes.

Yeah, as well as when look into PSR Tutorial a couple of times every day. 😁😁😁
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Gunnar Jonny on July 07, 2020, 05:01:34 PM
But then the US website has not addapted to this..

And for those of us that already have bought most of the addons, the trade history and possibilities to redownload no longer present.
We'll see, but I have a bad feeling that tells me that the EU-site won't be reopened......... 🤔
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: tyrosman on July 07, 2020, 05:09:02 PM
 :D :D ;D
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Aquilauno on July 07, 2020, 05:36:33 PM
Thank you Bachus was the numeric code of the country ... and I completed the registration.
I managed to enter (on the American site) and I am downloading. If I can I will make the other packages available at this point but it is very slow...
I files are in ppf, ppi, cpf (in .sme the Genos Pack) and are for various keyboards (A2000, A3000, S670, S770, S970 and so on )  in short, a collection.
is it right is not right for who bought this ..? ... why?
I had to redo the registration on the site maybe Yamaha needed to encourage this.

I believe that Yamaha  needed test the site and what better than free packages. This reminded me of when albums and stickers gratis, were given in front of the school in Italy. There were mothers of  family who were fighting for them .. lol (far 1975 45 years ago ... nothing changed lol ...)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: dflstarry on July 07, 2020, 06:31:39 PM
Why keep trying when they are telling you it will take a couple of weeks to get everything running properly. just play your keyboard and enjoy.

Hi: Eileen, this is why I tried to down load again. Thank You

"We've noticed that some of the packs were downloading in the SME format and our team is working to resolve this.  You should be receiving CPF files when downloading.   (Please try your download again and if you continue to see the SME file, let us know which pack you are having trouble with.)"

This was posted just before I tried to down load them, Thought I was helping, maybe not though.

Denny
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 07, 2020, 07:15:34 PM
And for those of us that already have bought most of the addons, the trade history and possibilities to redownload no longer present.
We'll see, but I have a bad feeling that tells me that the EU-site won't be reopened......... 🤔

Well, as long as that doesn’t mean they will be closing Yamaha EU development team down too?
I can live with a good working US side..  as long as in a few weeks its working full featured
Time will tell..
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Wim on July 08, 2020, 12:38:20 AM
When I read this thread I get the idea that most of you already have forgotten the time we went true and in some countries still are. That people were not allowed to go out for there work. I think the Yamaha company in the USA had the same problem. And seeing the situation there they may still have. So get things ready in the next week??

regards Wim
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: soryt on July 08, 2020, 11:46:13 AM
New reply i get from Yamaha ,

Quote:
Thanks for getting back to us.  I'll be sure that our developers know that these packs are producing the wrong file types.

Please allow us some time to correct the issue and you'll be able to download the correct format for the packs.
 I'll note your email address and will let you know if we receive confirmation that this issue is fixed. Quote .

So we must have patience  8)

Soneg

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: tyrosman on July 08, 2020, 05:23:17 PM
get a grip every one please leave the site alone and let the guyes get it sorted >:( as it says on the tin  2weeks the guyes have enough to Do >:(
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on July 08, 2020, 05:46:00 PM
Thanks @Pietro. I downloaded the entire content and everything went fine. Unfortunately, SA voices for Genos are in * .sme but I believe Yamaha will fix that quickly.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Francesco Massa on July 08, 2020, 06:11:18 PM
Thanks @Pietro. I downloaded the entire content and everything went fine. Unfortunately, SA voices for Genos are in * .sme but I believe Yamaha will fix that quickly.

Guys, there is no need to download SA2 voices, because they already are into the free Superior Pack on the official Genos page.
So SA2 panflute, SA2 female vocals, SA2 trombone and Alpen pack are unuseful for Genos users on Yamahamusicsoft. Also the SA2 saxophones are already on Genos as native voices.

Francesco
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 08, 2020, 06:54:03 PM
get a grip every one please leave the site alone and let the guyes get it sorted >:( as it says on the tin  2weeks the guyes have enough to Do >:(

A little stir on the web does help to keep them motivated..
If noboddy complained.. they would probably just leave it at this..

But then, now we have the answer : two weeks..
I dont think continous complaining helps much..

So its best to wait for 2 more weeks and see how it improves
And if the problems continue..  become vocal again..


But i agree, for now, it does not help..
See you all in 2 weeks, either as a happy camper or a grumpy 😡 old man..
The choice is up to Yamaha..
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: chony on July 08, 2020, 06:56:13 PM
I can't seem to find the entertainer packs 1 and 2 on the website? Does anyone know the status with those?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 08, 2020, 06:58:03 PM
I can't seem to find the entertainer packs 1 and 2 on the website? Does anyone know the status with those?

It says, just wait 2 weeks...
There is probably no answers till then
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Mike2 on July 08, 2020, 11:10:31 PM
What the hell is this back and forth all about? Doesn't anyone play their keyboards anymore. Is this free or when is it free. I have had my Genos for 2 years, and their is so much that I haven't even discovered yet. I also love new styles and sounds...but I think this obsession which is my own opinion, is not healthy 
for most keyboard players. If you are waiting for sound improvements, just think after this Yamaha expansion problem is solved, their will be another down the road. I think technology has made us all very anxious to the point , that we cannot focus on the blessings that we have in front of us in our keyboards. But if this is what keyboard playing is all about for you, go for it. You will always be expecting better, and better, and missing what you already have.
My 2 cents worth.....
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: balcino on July 08, 2020, 11:59:27 PM
Thanks a lot Pietro !!!

Spiros!!!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 09, 2020, 12:25:10 AM
What the hell is this back and forth all about? Doesn't anyone play their keyboards anymore. Is this free or when is it free. I have had my Genos for 2 years, and their is so much that I haven't even discovered yet. I also love new styles and sounds...but I think this obsession which is my own opinion, is not healthy 
for most keyboard players. If you are waiting for sound improvements, just think after this Yamaha expansion problem is solved, their will be another down the road. I think technology has made us all very anxious to the point , that we cannot focus on the blessings that we have in front of us in our keyboards. But if this is what keyboard playing is all about for you, go for it. You will always be expecting better, and better, and missing what you already have.
My 2 cents worth.....

Hi Mike

If you have Sample robot and computer with vst's sounds, there are no problems for the Genos as Sky is the limit with sf2 files.
One outlay of £200 and the rest is history. Sounds will come out of anything.

All the Best
John
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: sunny on July 09, 2020, 03:03:29 AM
Don't worry "guys", the wait is over before of two week...
Extra packs have been corrected now. Compressed files (.zip) shared in the link.
I left the files unpacked for SX 700/900 to allow a quick download to who interested only those (in reality nothing is specific for the SX keyboard, the packages are of the various S series) ... Good music at all. Thanks Yamaha I have the packages that I wanted and that I was about to buy (Iberia and Italy) and others that I had in yep format and therefore lacking specific of voices and drumkits. Now no pack give me error in loading.

Pietro

https://mega.nz/folder/biR0ACoB#cEDZMZLExpOLIvjQBwGzHA

I downloaded Indian Taal pack,  for  Tyros5 , The error message getting as " This pack could not be imported because there is no instrument capable of using this pack".  Any one tried Indian Taal pack for Tyros5 ?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: tyrosman on July 09, 2020, 08:50:55 AM
the above links do not work at all there for you should remove them the site is still not fixed yet so get a grip here
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 09, 2020, 12:15:41 PM
I have to agree with Mike and I am surprised this thread is still going. Please do spend time exploring what you already have under your finger tips and enjoy just playing. In these hard times we need to get away from stress and what does it better than just sitting and playing the lovely instruments you have already.
I do not think people are interested in sample robot as it has nothing to do with the present subject of Free Packs.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Aquilauno on July 09, 2020, 12:31:27 PM
Hi Eilieen and Mike2
So we have to tell Yamaha not to produce expansion packs anymore, much less pay homage to its customers for free ... lol.
Sorry but I don't see where the problem is, nobody is stealing anything. If instead of having them for free you buy them, is this rhetoric still valid? Some people will need these packages to spend hours of light-heartedness and fun, no more or less like having 50000 styles on a USB stick ... will we play them all? Probably not, but all are owners of their own ... USB.  lol
good music to everybody
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: DerekA on July 09, 2020, 02:30:02 PM
If you're not interested in this thread then stop reading it - leave the rest of us to our complaining :)

To quote Mrs Doyle "Maybe we like the misery" :):)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: PdeMats on July 09, 2020, 02:53:28 PM
Don't worry "guys", the wait is over before of two week...
Extra packs have been corrected now. Compressed files (.zip) shared in the link.
I left the files unpacked for SX 700/900 to allow a quick download to who interested only those (in reality nothing is specific for the SX keyboard, the packages are of the various S series) ... Good music at all. Thanks Yamaha I have the packages that I wanted and that I was about to buy (Iberia and Italy) and others that I had in yep format and therefore lacking specific of voices and drumkits. Now no pack give me error in loading.

Pietro

https://mega.nz/folder/biR0ACoB#cEDZMZLExpOLIvjQBwGzHA


Hi Aquilauno, thanks for the link
Where can I find the 'Latin American' Pack you have in YEM?
Take care
Cheers
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: mikf on July 09, 2020, 03:15:40 PM
All these grand pianos, violins , trumpets and saxophones that havent had a new sound issued to them in 200 years, free or not , - how can anyone enjoy playing them! ;D ;D
Mike
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 09, 2020, 03:50:05 PM
I think the point we were making is that many people are getting over heated about not being able to get these packs right now. No where is anyone telling Yamaha not to produce packs. We are just saying relax and wait a couple of weeks until all is working right. In the mean time have some fun with your keyboards.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 09, 2020, 05:14:22 PM
I think the point we were making is that many people are getting over heated about not being able to get these packs right now. No where is anyone telling Yamaha not to produce packs. We are just saying relax and wait a couple of weeks until all is working right. In the mean time have some fun with your keyboards.

Hi Eileen
Since i got wind of Sample Robot i looked at it and pondered for a while and researched.
It is a no brainer for £220.
If you make about three of your own packs ,You have paid for the program. NO BRAINER!!! ::) :P
I have a raft of vst and it copies them perfectly to Sf2  and no messing in Yem . Just a few ups and downs to your liking with the sliders.
With the help of Sokratis and Robinez it is a breeze.
Yamaha packs will be a thing of the past for most of them are just standard sounds.

All the Best
John :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: mikf on July 09, 2020, 05:35:07 PM
Here is my challenge - play a nice middle of the road song - the sort posted over and over by arranger players -  using the panel voices, stock styles as best you can play it. Then use a vst, expanded pack whatever voices styles you like and play it again. Then spend a week balancing, adding effects etc etc. Now,...... does it really sound that much better??

Mike
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Aquilauno on July 09, 2020, 06:07:17 PM
Hi PdeMats, this pack is pre-installed (along with 3 other packs) on sx900, it is protected (so it is a .cpf file).
it can be downloaded from the Yamaha website, but you will not be able to install it if you do not own the SX 700/900 ...
But if you owned the"SX700/900" you would already have it
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 09, 2020, 06:23:13 PM
Here is my challenge - play a nice middle of the road song - the sort posted over and over by arranger players -  using the panel voices, stock styles as best you can play it. Then use a vst, expanded pack whatever voices styles you like and play it again. Then spend a week balancing, adding effects etc etc. Now,...... does it really sound that much better??

Mike

What "Chirpy Chirpy Cheap Cheap!!  ::) "definitely Middle of  the Road" ;D
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Al Ram on July 09, 2020, 06:34:12 PM
Please keep in mind . . .

1. Some people are not necessarily downloading the packs to play them all now . . . . but . . . this is also, to enhance the future re-sale value of their keyboard(s).

2. Due to confinment, some people have more than usual free time . . . (confinment seems to be over in many parts in Europe but still going-on in many other places).

I have learned a long time ago that people will do whatever they feel like doing . . . if they want to play then great if they want to try download great too . . .  that is fine with me.

I am grateful to Yamaha for the free packs and for this thread, everyone's advise and comments. . . .  it really helped me.   

Thanks

 
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Esa on July 09, 2020, 07:00:57 PM
Here is my challenge - play a nice middle of the road song - the sort posted over and over by arranger players -  using the panel voices, stock styles as best you can play it. Then use a vst, expanded pack whatever voices styles you like and play it again. Then spend a week balancing, adding effects etc etc. Now,...... does it really sound that much better??

Mike


Why do you share this same thing?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Joe H on July 09, 2020, 07:38:25 PM
Here is my challenge - play a nice middle of the road song - the sort posted over and over by arranger players -  using the panel voices, stock styles as best you can play it. Then use a vst, expanded pack whatever voices styles you like and play it again. Then spend a week balancing, adding effects etc etc. Now,...... does it really sound that much better??

Mike

If you want to limit it to the example you give... the answer is MAYBE. It really depends on the genre of music... I rarely use "stock styles".  For me sounds are everything so the answer is a big YES! But... it doesn't take a week to remix the style either.

Remember there are members from around the world who don't play stock styles either, and the Panel Voices are inadequate for Baltic, Mid-Eastern or Asian music. It's just not possible to put every kind of ethnic instrument and style in the keyboard.  That's why Yamaha went the expansion route.

 ;)

Joe H
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: mikf on July 09, 2020, 09:25:42 PM
Fair point Joe, I suppose other genres of music warrant a wider sometimes more technical, approach. But close to 100% of  music I hear posted is very straightforward western style pop and standards.
mike
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: PdeMats on July 09, 2020, 10:13:39 PM
Hi PdeMats, this pack is pre-installed (along with 3 other packs) on sx900, it is protected (so it is a .cpf file).
it can be downloaded from the Yamaha website, but you will not be able to install it if you do not own the SX 700/900 ...
But if you owned the"SX700/900" you would already have it

Hi Aquilauno, thanks for your answer and explanation, I don't have PSR SX, I have the Genos, but like you, we are from latin countries (I am from Portugal) and we know what people want to listen to when we go out to play, so the more latin packs the better ;-) but I see that pack is not for Genos, it's a shame, there are categories like Pop Dance Entertainer, just to name a few, that have 5 pages of styles so 5x10 about 50styles each in Genos, the Latin is only 3 pages about 30styles and a lot of them are Slow Bossa Bossa nova PopBossa Jazz bossa, etc... there's so much more about latin music than the Brazilian bossa!
I just want to add that regarding the topic ( Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free ) what Eileen want us to talk about? When he wrote regarding the *.sme files stop talking about it it has been discussed to death... yes, it was a polite manner to say 'shut up you all'... what should we discuss then, the pandemic outside that causes we musicians to be out of work at this moment, and so without money?!?... Yamaha department of arrangers screw up things, today is 9th July and I was not able to download anything from the site, now i have some packs thanks to Aquilano, but came to here in search of answers for my problems with the packs and everyone was on topic, discussing the issues of those free packs. Please don't take me wrong, I just do not like when someone tells me to 'shut up' when I am not saying foolish things...
About SampleRobot, someone mentioned it, I went to make a search and there's a free version for Montage owners, how come Yamaha??? I paid more than 4000€ for the Genos, the Montage it's cheaper and I don't have access to the program?
I didn't sold the Genos after a couple of months because I was going to loose a big amount of money, but I am glad I kept my old Ketron SD1 Plus bought in 2004, it's simple to use and sounds damn good, better than the Genos. I will never buy from Yamaha again, these 2 years have been disappointing and more and more frustrating... what a disrespectful company.
(sorry to go off topic)
Please be safe and take care, outside there's the IIIrd World War

Paulo from Portugal
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 09, 2020, 10:47:11 PM
I have and never would tell anyone to shut up. We have all been told the site is not running properly and will be up and running in a couple of weeks time so all I wanted to say was why do people keep trying to get these packs until everything is running as it should. The reward will come with a little patience and I am sure there are better things to discus like any hints and tips Members may have found and want to pass on.
 Why should you think Yamaha are disrespectful. I have always found them very helpful and there service is first class. Genos is a fantastic keyboard.
 
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Joe H on July 09, 2020, 11:55:25 PM
314 post including this one... and read 11064 times.

 ::)   ???

Joe H
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: jugge on July 10, 2020, 09:13:29 AM
At least for me, the page seems to be working better now.
Before I got stucked at the "update information" page and was told "more information is required".

Now I was able to get through this and was able to download some of the free packs. The bigger ones like Euro Dance and Entertainer, failed after a while of downloading retries, but I was able to download some smaller packs like the SA2 Pan Flutes. I haven't installed the file yet, but the file name is SA2 PanFlutes_Genos.cpf so I guess it will be ok.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: DerekA on July 10, 2020, 09:30:50 AM
Hi jugge, remember that the Trombone, Pan Flute, Female Vocal and Alpen packs were provided free last year as part of the "Genos Superior Pack" - so if you installed that, you already have them.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 10, 2020, 10:08:00 AM
Not those annoying Pan flutes that plague telephone lines when waiting for a response on the other end when trying to book a holiday.
Always flaming Pan Flutes ;D ;D ;D ;D


Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Aquilauno on July 10, 2020, 11:48:27 AM
It's true, Eileen didn't say to shut up ... but to wait, sometimes google traslate makes bad jokes ... lol. We live in a very bad period and we are certainly tried by the situation we are experiencing...

PS : and curse, I bought plane tickets to Lisbon  for the next month of August (tickets already purchased a week before drama the "Covid 19". My wife does not want to leave by plane anymore, this is money thrown away ... lol).
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 10, 2020, 01:01:30 PM
Love Pan Flutes John They can be so expressive if played the right way. These packs will not work in the SX700 or 900 because we do not have SA2 on keyboard.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: tyrosman on July 10, 2020, 01:01:57 PM
very well said Eileen this whole forum is becoming a total Joke >:( and should be pulled down all they do is blooming moan >:( about something or other instead of sitting at there keyboard and enjoying it this forum used to be great. but im having a diffrent oppinion about it now  ??? >:(
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 10, 2020, 01:12:37 PM
Here is my challenge - play a nice middle of the road song - the sort posted over and over by arranger players -  using the panel voices, stock styles as best you can play it. Then use a vst, expanded pack whatever voices styles you like and play it again. Then spend a week balancing, adding effects etc etc. Now,...... does it really sound that much better??

Mike

Maybe its not about sounding better, but about the creative proces?  Or just about sounding different?

Everyone is different and does things the wya he does for his own reasons?

So even when i see no use for something, it can make another man entirely happy.

We are often much to fast to give our opinions based on our own perception instead of trying to figure out why other people make a certain choice. 



If someone wants to tweak his sounds for ours on hours, and enjoys that, who are we to say he is wrong?



And if people want to bicker about the yamaha musicsoft still not doing what they promissed, then why not just let them. It might be their way to handle the emotions they have concerning this topic..



In general things start going down hill, when we start telling others what to do and what not to do..


Juts saying...
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: mikf on July 10, 2020, 01:34:34 PM
True Bachus. But about 80% of the people who buy an arranger see it as a musical instrument and just want to learn to play it. I think that around 20% or less are interested in the arranger as a piece of advanced technology, and want to explore and extend all the features. What people like Eileen are reacting to is that the 20% seem to dominate the forum with constant complaints about what they need but dont have, what Yamaha do wrong, and why it should be better, and it sometimes gets a bit old.

Mike
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: voodoo on July 10, 2020, 01:39:52 PM
Hi all,

it seems, that Yamaha has fixed the download page. Currently, I could download the following packs for Genos:

* Celtic (already worked last week)
* Colors of Iberia V2 for Genos (already worked last week)
* Choirs & Vocals (now as CPF)
* Euro & US Urgan (now as CPF)
* SA2 Trombones (now as CPF)
* SA2 Pan Flutes (now as CPF)
* Balkan & Turkey (now as CPF)
* Best of Europe (now as CPF)
* Ballroom Premium Styls (now as CPF)

These CPF files are not bound to a single account. They are free, only restricted to use with Genos.

I had purchased the pack Best of Europe before, that was bound to my account, showing a golden lock in YEM.
Now I have got the pack Best of Europe, that is not bound to any account, showing a silver lock in YEM.


On the other side: Last week I downloaded Euro Dance VSE for PSR. It was in format PPF, thus could be loaded to Genos.
Now Euro Dance VSE for PSR comes as a CPF (silver lock), that is restricted to PSR keyboards and does not load to Genos.

Uli
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bernie9 on July 10, 2020, 01:46:01 PM
Three days ago I registered and put the free ones in my card.  When I checked out, the order was acknowledged, and $0 charged.  It said the download link would be sent,but nothing so far.

Bernie
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: voodoo on July 10, 2020, 01:47:37 PM
Hi again,

packs that I had before bound to my account, and that are still missing as a free download:

* Church & Christmas
* Colors of Romania
* Euro Organ Artist
* Fiesta Caliente
* Greetings from Italy
* South East Europe

And the pack Alpen Genos that was available last week as SME, now disappeared from the shop.

And there have been other packs before, like Entertainer or Euro Dance.

Uli
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 10, 2020, 01:48:10 PM
Love Pan Flutes John They can be so expressive if played the right way. These packs will not work in the SX700 or 900 because we do not have SA2 on keyboard.

Hi Eileen
Just putting some situation comedy in there!!

All the Best
john

Ps
 By the way, those Insurance companies and car servicing  put those pan flutes on.
Sometimes as you know they go around and around and around whilst are waiting for someone to speak to you !! ;) " It drives me nuts"!!! All i want is my car serviced and renew my Insurance and try booking a lovely cruise.!! ;D "Sausages"!! ;D ;D
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: voodoo on July 10, 2020, 01:48:16 PM
Three days ago I registered and put the free ones in my card.  When I checked out, the order was acknowledged, and $0 charged.  It said the download link would be sent,but nothing so far.

Bernie

Go to your library and find the download links there. There is no email coming.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Dromeus on July 10, 2020, 02:37:37 PM
FINALLY I could login. My personal details are missing, even my name was incorrect. Never mind, can be edited. Part of my order history was migrated, but some orders from the past are still missing. Ordered two packs as a test, was informed that I receive an e-mail.

Umph, 45 minutes later still no e-mail?  :-\

Go to your library and find the download links there. There is no email coming.

Well, Monty Python are said to be the masters of SURREAL comedy. Now I know there's a company that is in for REAL comedy...  :P

Thanks Uli, valuable information.

Thanks mates, for posting all these infos 'bout the new shopping site, keep it comin'. I'm confused though that people advising us to sit and play seem to follow this thread closely for commenting instead of sit and play 8).
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: sunny on July 10, 2020, 06:56:26 PM
Don't worry "guys", the wait is over before of two week...
Extra packs have been corrected now. Compressed files (.zip) shared in the link.
I left the files unpacked for SX 700/900 to allow a quick download to who interested only those (in reality nothing is specific for the SX keyboard, the packages are of the various S series) ... Good music at all. Thanks Yamaha I have the packages that I wanted and that I was about to buy (Iberia and Italy) and others that I had in yep format and therefore lacking specific of voices and drumkits. Now no pack give me error in loading.

Pietro

https://mega.nz/folder/biR0ACoB#cEDZMZLExpOLIvjQBwGzHA

I downloaded Indian Taal pack, but voices are not ticked( not loaded). Any body tried Indian Taal pack on Tyros 5 ?

Sunny
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: svpworld on July 10, 2020, 09:39:23 PM
 ;D

Well I live in the UK and I can't even fill in the contact form on the website to get in touch with them. Clearly it's only designed for US customers as it won't accept my phone number, post code (ZIP code) or select UK... but where is the UK equivalent of this store?   I am puzzled.
Like yourselves I've tried to download my purchases and almost 99% of the time they fail with 'the network connection was lost'. In the rare occasions I did manage to download them, they are files which are unrecognisable by either Yamaha Expansion Manager or the Genos.
I'm happy to wait until it gets resolved and fixed, however I am puzzled as to why a major company like Yamaha haven't even put a message on the site to say they are aware of the problems.   
Ho Hum... shouldn't complain, but it's lockdown and we do  8)

Stay safe everyone
Simon
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: iulistil2 on July 10, 2020, 09:55:47 PM
I managed to download the free packages today. It seems that a small problem started on the site, but now everything is ok. Thank you Yamaha!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 10, 2020, 10:26:08 PM
Will not be ready for UK for a couple of weeks.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: harden37 on July 11, 2020, 12:10:44 AM
Hello everybody, Been reading most of this thread and it may have been covered; but I can not find it. Will these free packs load in a tyros 4 and if so could someone point me to the direction of the step by step instructions on how to load them.I would like to load the Trombone Pack. Thanks in advance for any advice.

harden 37
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Al Ram on July 11, 2020, 01:48:03 AM
Harden37

I doubt that there are step by step instructions . . . . a lot of it is trial and error . . . . but basically . ..  this is an outline . . . .

Go to the very first post of this thread.   You will find a link to the Yamaha music site. 

1. Access the link
2. If you do not have one already, sign up to create an account
3. Look for the items you want
4. "purchase" and once in your shopping cart . . . . . then download

When creating the account, you can provide the keyboard model that you own . . . . the system will tell you if the selected packages are compatible with your keyboard.

I am sure, that others will also contribute if this basic instructions are not sufficiently clear or missing something.

So, that is the first part . . . . the second part will require additional instructions . . .

My suggestion is for now to do the first part . . .. and then if you do not have it already ask for instructions on the second part . . . . and so on . . . . .

Hopefully someone has better step by step instructions but you can start with this for now.

Hope it helps.

Thanks

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Pino on July 11, 2020, 03:23:22 AM
Cannot download any , someone said to look in the library so I caught a bus today and went to the library but the man there didn’t know anything about it. so, I’m none the wiser. 😆 ;)

Pino
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Francesco Massa on July 11, 2020, 06:05:56 AM
Hello everybody, Been reading most of this thread and it may have been covered; but I can not find it. Will these free packs load in a tyros 4 and if so could someone point me to the direction of the step by step instructions on how to load them.I would like to load the Trombone Pack. Thanks in advance for any advice.

harden 37

No need to use YEM for Tyros4. You have to load the new packs using Voice Creator function onboard.

Francesco
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 11, 2020, 09:25:04 AM
Hi Pino

No need to catch a bus the library is next to the bathroom!! ;D

All the best
John
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Dromeus on July 11, 2020, 09:25:35 AM
Will these free packs load in a tyros 4 [...] I would like to load the Trombone Pack. Thanks in advance for any advice.

As Francesco pointed out you cannot use YEM with a Tyros4. The SA2 Trombone pack contains three cpf files for Genos, T5 and T5_76. There is no data that you can upload using Voice Creator. Until now T4 users are left in the dust. You will have to wait and see if Yamaha finds a way to deliver those packs to T4 users.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 11, 2020, 02:12:04 PM
True Bachus. But about 80% of the people who buy an arranger see it as a musical instrument and just want to learn to play it. I think that around 20% or less are interested in the arranger as a piece of advanced technology, and want to explore and extend all the features. What people like Eileen are reacting to is that the 20% seem to dominate the forum with constant complaints about what they need but dont have, what Yamaha do wrong, and why it should be better, and it sometimes gets a bit old.

Mike

Its not about majorrity or minority..
 Thats an asumption you make based on what?

Its about people being different..
And there is only on way that different people can live together.
Thats when they
a) accept others for what they are
B) take others into consideration..

But, there is one thing you shouldn’t do
Demandding others to change their behaviour
In general demanding that people change, or stop with something ends in war..
Thats something human history clearly teaches us..

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 11, 2020, 02:14:31 PM
Will not be ready for UK for a couple of weeks.

Thats something i expected and can live with..
May i ask where this information can be found?

It would be great if Yamaha would communicate more openly about this..
That would make the whole situation much less confusing..
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 11, 2020, 02:59:29 PM
Hi Bachus,
  Several of us were told when we got in touch with Music Soft to give them a couple of weeks to sort out European side of things.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 11, 2020, 03:11:32 PM
Hi Bachus,
  Several of us were told when we got in touch with Music Soft to give them a couple of weeks to sort out European side of things.

Thank you...
Thats good to know...
Al i heared/read it should be okay in 2 weeks
But a couple of weeks could be more then just 2 weeks..

I guess Yamaha will give us a heads up call when they are ready for it?

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: harden37 on July 11, 2020, 03:28:23 PM
Thank you Al,Francesco,Dromeus for your help. I did get the file downloaded but looks like I can not load CPF Files in tyros 4 :'(. Hope Yamaha comes around with a way to load them. Will keep pushing buttons.LOA.

harden37
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bill on July 11, 2020, 03:37:10 PM
Thats something i expected and can live with..
May i ask where this information can be found?

It would be great if Yamaha would communicate more openly about this..
That would make the whole situation much less confusing..


Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 11, 2020, 03:55:34 PM


Thanks Bill, hadnt seen that one yet.
Since i decided to wait and stop visiting the website,
Till someone here announced the situation is stable again.

Its great to see there are some directions now on Yamaha’s website..
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: vanzee on July 11, 2020, 05:20:42 PM
Hello,
my experience:
I could download 6 packs via "Library" in my account (old account from Musicsoft Europe).
When ordered it shows "Pending", after a while this changes in "Available",
start download by clicking in the little square in the names of the packs in "Order".
Installed via YEM in Genos, no problems, all OK.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Al Ram on July 11, 2020, 05:35:49 PM
Great information on this thread.  Thanks everyone.   

Thanks to the info on this thread i have been able to successfully donwload and install some nice packs. It is appreciated.

Has Anyone been able to install the "Best of Europe" pack in a Genos keyboard ?

If so, how did you do it ?

thanks in advance.

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 11, 2020, 06:42:31 PM
Hi Harden,
  You will have to make sure the Packs are for Tyros 4 because these load differently as a Library load
whereas the newer keyboards use the Yamaha Expansion Manager via computer to load packs into keyboard memory.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: andy_v on July 11, 2020, 07:08:04 PM
Great information on this thread.  Thanks everyone.   

Thanks to the info on this thread i have been able to successfully donwload and install some nice packs. It is appreciated.

Has Anyone been able to install the "Best of Europe" pack in a Genos keyboard ?

If so, how did you do it ?

thanks in advance.

I think you should find that you can load the PSR-S970 version of the pack (via YEM).
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: harden37 on July 11, 2020, 08:44:47 PM
Thanks Eileen,
I will double check the pack. Did not know that.


     harden37
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: muddy on July 12, 2020, 07:54:07 AM
Hi all

I have re-downloaded my library files from my account and they have been changed from .sme files to .cpf no need to
 re-order as I had them in my account library already.

There are 9 .cpf files for the genos I have not checked the tyros 5 files
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 12, 2020, 10:16:33 PM
The choirs keep failing to download
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 12, 2020, 10:33:14 PM
I don't think they have the European side sorted yet so that is probably why.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 12, 2020, 11:23:41 PM
Hi Eileen

They downloaded in the end
All packs look ok now on the usa site
All load into the Genos
I lke the Celtic pack and the organs not too bad ,but the choirs . Hu Hu and that's it
I would not go overboard on these sounds , but one or two are useful.
I got the choir i was after with sample robot . Now that is worthwhile .

All the best
john
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Dromeus on July 13, 2020, 10:00:03 AM
They downloaded in the end

Congratulation. I could only download a few packs, most consistently fail after loading 50-200 MB. Tried with Firefox and Chrome.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Stijn on July 13, 2020, 01:02:41 PM
The MusicSoft site is still under construction, so if you can't download the packs you can get a copy from my Dropbox.
The packs are not ID encrypted so they need no key when you import them in Yamaha Expansion Manager.

This is the link to the free packs: https://www.dropbox.com/s/r686w5l7o8kal62/Free%20packs%201%20Jul%202020.zip?dl=0
I included these packs: BallroomStyle, Celtic, Colors of Iberia2, Choir& Vocals, Euro&UsOrgan
I didn't download the packs that were included in the GenosV2.0 SuperiorPack; SA2 FemaleVocals_Genos, SA2 PanFlutes_Genos, SA2 Trombone_Genos. I didn't include the other free packs as they are for PSR only.

Stijn
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Dromeus on July 13, 2020, 02:38:37 PM
Thank you, Stijn, much appreciated. "Best Of Europe"appears to be ID encrypted, so I was not able to import that pack into YEM.

Quote
I didn't include the other free packs as they are for PSR only.

I thought that the Euro Dance Pack was available for Tyros/Genos, too? Let's wait and see...
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: anandmaloo on July 13, 2020, 03:46:26 PM
Hi,

A Stupid question.  My Genos memory is already filled a lot. But I also want these freebies, mostly styles.  Is there a way to delete any voices or styles from these free packs (which i don't like) and save some space in my Genos memory. Will un-checking them while installation save me space in Genos memory ?

Regards

Anand
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: overover on July 13, 2020, 04:35:16 PM
Hi,

A Stupid question.  My Genos memory is already filled a lot. But I also want these freebies, mostly styles.  Is there a way to delete any voices or styles from these free packs (which i don't like) and save some space in my Genos memory. Will un-checking them while installation save me space in Genos memory? ...

Hi Anand,

STYLES that are installed via a .cpf or .ppf Pack do NOT require any storage space in the Voice Wave Expansion Memory (but the included Styles will be automatically copied to the corresponding subfolder of the Expansion folder in the USER drive when installing Packs on the instrument).

To save space in the Voice Wave Expansion Memory you can simply deselect unneeded Voices in Expansion Packs. (Click on the desired Voices so that the green checkmark disappears.)


Best regards,
Chrs
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Wim on July 13, 2020, 06:39:17 PM
The latest info I heard from Germany is that the European Site will be available round the end of september.  After expirering the license of their sites Yamaha take in considering to go along the old way with the sales oft software that way. Finally they agreed to make a new site and change some policy. First they agreed to finish the USA site. Later the Euro site. Bringing all the names and purchases over to there new site took a long time. And than also carona.

The new policy is.  The Premium packs  give away for free. Except  of course those from third parties. They also had in mind to do that for styles and song (midi) files. The problem here. Copyright of the composers. So Yamaha makes new Premium packs  therselve is still the question.

rgds
Wim 
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Joe H on July 13, 2020, 07:34:29 PM
Hi,

A Stupid question.  My Genos memory is already filled a lot. But I also want these freebies, mostly styles.  Is there a way to delete any voices or styles from these free packs (which i don't like) and save some space in my Genos memory. Will un-checking them while installation save me space in Genos memory ?

Regards

Anand

Another option is to use YEM Content Explorer to extract the styles from the packs.  That way you can keep them on the User Drive or on a USB stick. But keep in mind that saving those styles without the pack Voices will require you to do a remix of the styles and they may not sound as good without those pack Voices.

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,43547.0.html (https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,43547.0.html)

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,53624.msg417847/topicseen.html#msg417847 (https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,53624.msg417847/topicseen.html#msg417847)

Joe H
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: overover on July 13, 2020, 08:00:55 PM
Another option is to use YEM Content Explorer to extract the styles from the packs.  That way you can keep them on the User Drive or on a USB stick. But keep in mind that saving those styles without the pack Voices will require you to do a remix of the styles and they may not sound as good without those pack Voices. ...

Hi Joe,

to my knowledge, the "YEM Content Explorer" (YEM-CE) can NOT extract Styles from .cpf Packs (only from .ppf Packs).


Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Joe H on July 13, 2020, 08:09:20 PM
Thanks for the clarification. I did not know this since I don't have any .cpf files loaded in YEM.

Joe H
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: jugge on July 14, 2020, 06:52:30 AM
This morning I was able to download the rest of the packs. Download speed is about 5-10 times faster and no failures at all.
Not sure if I was just lucky or if they sorted out the issues now.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: jugge on July 14, 2020, 07:17:41 AM
So after downloading all packs, I found that only about 10 of them have the filename that ends with genos.cpf
The rest of the packs - like entertainer and eurodance - have filenames pointing to other models like S700 and S900 series.
Will we be able to load those into Genos?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Stijn on July 14, 2020, 08:36:59 AM
Thank you, Stijn, much appreciated. "Best Of Europe"appears to be ID encrypted, so I was not able to import that pack into YEM.


I managed to download it again, so this one should work:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kf4cwu53y8zs2nb/Best_of_Europe_Genos.cpf?dl=0

Stijn
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Dromeus on July 14, 2020, 09:14:46 AM
I managed to download it again, so this one should work:

Awesome, thanks again.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: filoaman on July 14, 2020, 09:25:45 AM
But I also want these freebies, mostly styles.  Is there a way to delete any voices or styles from these free packs (which i don't like) and save some space in my Genos memory. Will un-checking them while installation save me space in Genos memory ?

Beware that some styles from expansion packs use voices from the pack especially drum-kits or percussion.
So even if you install only the styles without the corresponding voices, the styles would not sound correctly since will missing voices...
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: DerekA on July 14, 2020, 09:53:48 AM
The rest of the packs - like entertainer and eurodance - have filenames pointing to other models like S700 and S900 series.

None of the EuroDance packs worked for me.

The only one I could even import to YEM was the S770 one, and that's only because I used to have an S770 so it's still on the install target list. But when I selected the Genos as target, it would not let me select the EuroDance pack to include in the install file.

However Euro/US organ and Choir have worked fine. Thank you Yamaha for those :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bob88 on July 14, 2020, 10:37:05 PM
Just went through the procedure of selecting 2 free packs,entered all the required
information , proceeded to complete order and have not heard or received  anything since. Bob
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Dromeus on July 15, 2020, 07:55:36 AM
Bob, see Uli's post:

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,55896.msg436836.html#msg436836 (https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,55896.msg436836.html#msg436836)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: kla4 on July 18, 2020, 11:53:11 AM
The website is improving and ordering works better. Downloaded 18 packs and they work fine.
A big "Thank You" to Yamaha!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: soundphase on July 18, 2020, 03:33:39 PM
These strings sound great, but we don't know if a Genos version exists.

https://shop.usa.yamaha.com/en/downloadables/sound-expansion-library/orchestral-strings.html
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 18, 2020, 08:53:04 PM
DOWNLOADS KEEP FAILING
site is too slow as well
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Oymmot on July 18, 2020, 09:03:09 PM
Har någon lyckats hämta hem detta som är free?
Tommy
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 18, 2020, 11:27:38 PM
Har någon lyckats hämta hem detta som är free?
Tommy


Has anyone managed to bring home this which is free

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: soundphase on July 19, 2020, 07:51:39 AM
I think Yamaha will propose tons of new high quality samples in new expansions (strings choir piano.... see additional packages for which there is no pictures nor details yet...) and considers it’s worth giving freely old Tyros, Genos, motif and montage expansions...
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Gunnar Jonny on July 19, 2020, 08:19:46 AM
Har någon lyckats hämta hem detta som är free?
Tommy

Yes, downloaded some I did not already have bought, and today I can see Yamaha has uploaded almost all packs as free.
Browse the style & expansion page, when down to end, click 'see more'. Even expansion for Montage and Motif stuff now added.
Site still very slow, but as they say, it take a week or two before things will be better........

Now we can wonder why Yamaha act like Santa Claus these days... Is it the end of creating addon packs, or is it due to new products coming that will have totally new fileformats, or is it the end of the Yamaha Arranger production? 🤔
Anyway, those of you that don't have these packs, it's a lot of great styles and sounds to enjoy.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on July 19, 2020, 08:30:45 AM
That's right Jonny,
there are more and more free packages, just to make the web work properly. For now, this is available.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 19, 2020, 09:28:36 AM
Hi
No luck yet as slow site and messages.
 Failed with Firefox and Couldnt download with Microsoft Edge.
Whether something in Norton is preventing downloads .
I have not got a clue..
Have to wait a few more weeks then.
Worst online site ever as it is back to Pentium 4 days.

All the Best
John
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 19, 2020, 01:07:28 PM
As we know the European side of things is still being worked on and because we don't use zip codes we can not get into the American site to download properly. We just have to be patient. All will work out in the end.
 
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Dromeus on July 19, 2020, 01:26:48 PM
because we don't use zip codes we can not get into the American site to download properly.

In fact the ZIP code is no problem at all. I entered 00000 which was accepted, and I didn't care about billing or shpping adress, after all who needs a bill of zero bucks and a download needs no shipping. Well, err, maybe it needs shipping... LOL

Anyway, meanwhile shopping at the site works very well (besides being slow). But downloading is still fishy. Small packs (e.g. Baritone Sax) did work for me, while larger ones (> 150MB) generally fail. With exceptions, today I was lucky enough to download the Vintage Synth pack  8) :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 19, 2020, 02:00:49 PM
In fact the ZIP code is no problem at all. I entered 00000 which was accepted, and I didn't care about billing or shpping adress, after all who needs a bill of zero bucks and a download needs no shipping. Well, err, maybe it needs shipping... LOL

Anyway, meanwhile shopping at the site works very well (besides being slow). But downloading is still fishy. Small packs (e.g. Baritone Sax) did work for me, while larger ones (> 150MB) generally fail. With exceptions, today I was lucky enough to download the Vintage Synth pack  8) :)

Problem is you dont want just the content, you want the content to be assigned to your account...

Its just a matter of being patient, i for one stepped away from trying weeks ago, till Yamaha gives thego for EU customers. Saves me a lot of frustration
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: elad770 on July 19, 2020, 02:25:09 PM
can someone confirm that they do have problem with their downloads?

I'm trying to download but it keeps getting interrupted
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Dromeus on July 19, 2020, 02:54:50 PM
Problem is you dont want just the content, you want the content to be assigned to your account...

Well, no. All content is readily assigned to my account. Problem is, the download of bigger packs does fail (unless you are very lucky...).
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: elad770 on July 19, 2020, 03:34:29 PM
Same here!
Thank you for sharing this because others will probably see our correspondence and understand that there's no issue with their computer or browser. Its Yamaha's Servers who's having issues


Hi
No luck yet as slow site and messages.
 Failed with Firefox and Couldnt download with Microsoft Edge.
Whether something in Norton is preventing downloads .
I have not got a clue..
Have to wait a few more weeks then.
Worst online site ever as it is back to Pentium 4 days.

All the Best
John
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bill on July 19, 2020, 04:26:31 PM
Yamaha MusicSoft are not helping themselves, they are including lots of different versions in the download, hence the download is VERY large.

For those people that do not want to wait, try installing a Free Download Manager on your Computer or Browser. It will automatically continue the download after it gets interrupted by the Yamaha Server.

https://www.freedownloadmanager.org/download.htm     is just one.

Regards

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Dromeus on July 19, 2020, 04:48:39 PM
Just curious: why is there a .cpf for T5 and another one for T5_76 in those packs? The size of both files is identical, so what's the difference?

Pardon my ignorance, never had a T5.  ::)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: elad770 on July 19, 2020, 04:57:23 PM
Maybe they need to make adjustments to Drumkits as they assign differently based on the Key Size and length

Just curious: why is there a .cpf for T5 and another one for T5_76 in those packs? The size of both files is identical, so what's the difference?

Pardon my ignorance, never had a T5.  ::)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Jakkims on July 20, 2020, 05:13:47 AM
With Yamaha having difficulties getting the free downloads to work in Europe, I can only wonder if they will ever get around to making them available in New Zealand, where I live! I doubt if there are very many Genos owners here so Yamaha may not consider us worth bothering with. But thankfully it is a fabulous instrument just as it is without any extras.
Jakki.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: overover on July 20, 2020, 07:09:40 AM
Just curious: why is there a .cpf for T5 and another one for T5_76 in those packs? The size of both files is identical, so what's the difference?

Pardon my ignorance, never had a T5.  ::)

Hi Dromeus,

each of these .cpf Packs works on exactly ONE model (for which Yamaha originally made it). Tyros5-61 and Tyros5-76 are treated as two different models in this case: I just tried to import the Tyros5-76 version of the T5 Entertainer Pack to my YEM (in which I have my "Genos" and my "Tyros5-61" as Install Targets), and I got an error message (see attached picture).


Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: voodoo on July 20, 2020, 12:21:33 PM
Hi,

this weekend I could download some more packs from the Yamaha site:

* Alpen
* Choir & Vocal
* Country Musician
* Euro & US Organ
* SA2 Female Vocal
* Vintage Keyboard
* Vintage Synth Pack
* Many regional packs (Europe, Balkan, Celtic, Iberia V1+2, Romania V2, Italy V1+2, South-East-Europe, Middle Eastern, Latin, Mexican, Cumbia, Salsa....)

In my opinion, this is of great value. Some voices are already available in the legacy folder or in the Genos 2.0 Superior pack. But others are not. I always wanted to have the Vintage Keys and the Vintage Synth packs, as well as the Country pack, but they were quite expensive. Now we can get them for free.

Thank you Yamaha for this great gift.

Uli

P.S.: Euro Dance and Entertainer packs are available for PSR (all models) and T5 only, but not for Genos. I expect, that these packs will come for Genos, too.
P.S.: Church & Christmas is still missing for Genos, but seems to be on the way.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Wim on July 21, 2020, 11:56:17 PM
They say that stupid questions don't exist, so I take the chance. I thought Yamaha of loading Expanions Packs through Yem for copyright protection reasons was. If they give these packs away for free, why not take this protection off so that they can be used, for example, via a USB stick, just like the Playlist for Genos. It is more flexible then  for apply them in a registration and play it on every other Genos. That is one of the reasons I don't use Expansion Packs.

rgds.
Wim
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on July 22, 2020, 12:14:39 AM
I fully agree Wim!!!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 22, 2020, 12:38:59 AM
They say that stupid questions don't exist, so I take the chance. I thought Yamaha of loading Expanions Packs through Yem for copyright protection reasons was. If they give these packs away for free, why not take this protection off so that they can be used, for example, via a USB stick, just like the Playlist for Genos. It is more flexible then  for apply them in a registration and play it on every other Genos. That is one of the reasons I don't use Expansion Packs.

rgds.
Wim

There is another important reason for Yem, other then protection... it links all those styles and the os to the new sounds.... it makes sure styles and registrations know where the sounds are...

Imagine you get a style from a friend that links to a user sound on his Genos.. the style will never work for you unless you import both the style and the sound trough Yem...
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: DerekA on July 22, 2020, 12:44:02 PM
They say that stupid questions don't exist, so I take the chance. I thought Yamaha of loading Expanions Packs through Yem for copyright protection reasons was. If they give these packs away for free, why not take this protection off so that they can be used, for example, via a USB stick, just like the Playlist for Genos. It is more flexible then  for apply them in a registration and play it on every other Genos. That is one of the reasons I don't use Expansion Packs.

rgds.
Wim

It's true that they don't need to be protected if they are free.

But expansion data contains sample waveforms. And the genos cannot read sample data from usb. It can only use them if installed onto the internal expansion memory.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 22, 2020, 12:45:26 PM
Sampled sounds whether free or not need the YEM to load them into your keyboards flash memory.
There is no way they would work from a USB stick.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Wim on July 22, 2020, 04:48:21 PM

Imagine you get a style from a friend that links to a user sound on his Genos.. the style will never work for you unless you import both the style and the sound trough Yem...

That's the case .  You need to have that Pack installed. When  like the free Playlist for Genos Yamaha distributed with the explanation to place Packs  in the root dir. e.g. , than everybody uses the same structure. Than the problem in your answer is solved.
rgds
Wim
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Wim on July 22, 2020, 04:50:57 PM
Ok. the wave data not sorry . But are all the things in that packs wave data? the  most voices maybe but the Styles??
Wim
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: DerekA on July 22, 2020, 05:10:56 PM
Ok. the wave data not sorry . But are all the things in that packs wave data? the  most voices maybe but the Styles??
Wim

Yes you can copy the styles to usb if you want. But if they use voices from the pack, as most do, you will have to substitute other voices from your preset or expansion voices.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: voodoo on July 22, 2020, 07:06:13 PM
They say that stupid questions don't exist, so I take the chance. I thought Yamaha of loading Expanions Packs through Yem for copyright protection reasons was. If they give these packs away for free, why not take this protection off so that they can be used, for example, via a USB stick, just like the Playlist for Genos. It is more flexible then  for apply them in a registration and play it on every other Genos. That is one of the reasons I don't use Expansion Packs.

rgds.
Wim

Wim,

it is a very good question.

There are two types of protection:

* CPF bound to an account: this ensures copyright
* CPF bound to a specific model (like the free Genos 2.0 Superior pack)

Earlier they provided packs in PPF format. Thus, the Pack "Euro Dance for PSR" could be used on Genos, too. Now they provide their packs in CPF format bound to specific models (SX900, T5, T5_76, Genos). Thus they ensure that the packs are used only on the intended models.

I don't know, if this has a specific intention. Perhaps, keep people from complaining that a PSR-Pack does not sound well on Genos. Or ensuring, that style could be programmed really type specific without causing issues on other models?

But indeed, they could give the free CPFs on a regular download page instead of using the complicated way of purchase.

So Wim, your question is really good.

Uli

P.S.: Ok, your question was about YEM. My answer was about protection. So, anyway, I hope it was interesting.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Joe H on July 22, 2020, 09:20:38 PM
Several years ago I posted 24 custom dance styles I had re-mixed using the Euro Dance pack Voices.  I did this on my S970.  I also posted versions for the S950 and Tyros4/Tyros5.  I found that MOST of the PSR Euro Dance Voices were on the T4 and T5 as Preset Voices. So for the Tyros version I had to remap the Euro Dance Voices using special Voice files I made for MixMaster and StyleMagic.

Yamaha released 12 Euro Dance styles specifically for the T5.  I bought these by mistake and I had to match up the Voices with the PSR 970 Euro Dance pack Voices so they would play right on my S970.

But assume you could install the PSR Euro Dance pack on the T5 or Genos so the Voices would be the same as the PSR, but the Euro Dance pack styles for the T4 and T5 Euro Dance style pack use the internal Preset Euro Dance Voices... so that wouldn't work very well.

Joe H
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: sunny on July 23, 2020, 06:32:44 AM
Friends,

I downloaded all Free expansion packs  Such as Indian Tal pack, Indian 2, Indian Entertainer and Indian devotional Pack for using on Tyros 5 keyboard.

But, none of the above packs are working for Tyros5, some voices are not getting ticked in Yamaha Expansion Manager software.
Anybody tried these packs on Tyros 5 ?

Sunny
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Francesco Massa on July 23, 2020, 07:28:51 AM
Friends,

I downloaded all Free expansion packs  Such as Indian Tal pack, Indian 2, Indian Entertainer and Indian devotional Pack for using on Tyros 5 keyboard.

But, none of the above packs are working for Tyros5, some voices are not getting ticked in Yamaha Expansion Manager software.
Anybody tried these packs on Tyros 5 ?

Sunny

They don't work on Tyros / Genos models now, because they are CPF format (restricted to a specific model). When they were PPF format in the past they worked very well on Tyros / Genos. On my Genos I have a lot of PSR packs installed (Church Organs, China, India, Indonesia, etc.) that work perfect except for the icons that show a "PACK" text instead of the voice picture. The styles also works great linking to the new voices correctly.

Francesco
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: wersianer on July 23, 2020, 08:03:41 AM
Hello Francesco,

do you have the ChurchOrgan Pack as PPF and would you make it available to us?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: sunny on July 23, 2020, 10:36:13 AM
They don't work on Tyros / Genos models now, because they are CPF format (restricted to a specific model). When they were PPF format in the past they worked very well on Tyros / Genos. On my Genos I have a lot of PSR packs installed (Church Organs, China, India, Indonesia, etc.) that work perfect except for the icons that show a "PACK" text instead of the voice picture. The styles also works great linking to the new voices correctly.

Francesco

Hi Francesco,
When Indian packs are available in PPF format, I tried several times on Tyros 5, they never worked out as none of the voices are getting ticked in YEM. I think Yamaha not allowed Yamaha Indian packs to be used for Genos and Tyros5.

I don't know what Yamaha is going to lose if the Indian expansion packs are  used on Genos and Tyros 5.

Sunny
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: PAFF on July 23, 2020, 11:08:44 AM
I managed to download some of the free packs. Among them "Colors of Iberia V2"and "Greeting from Italy V2" both for Genos.None of those (and no other) can be imported to my YEM. It seems like it does not accept the cpf format. Every time I try to import a pack the YEM is closed. Whats's wrong?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 23, 2020, 12:23:38 PM
Unless these packs are made for Tyros 5 they won't work properly. A lot of these packs were for PSR 970. etc.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Francesco Massa on July 23, 2020, 12:52:20 PM
Hello Francesco,

do you have the ChurchOrgan Pack as PPF and would you make it available to us?

Sure! I have uploaded my PPF packs here --> https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ap_lPbsw3Hw3gSDN0uIS8iUb-Ens?e=dGBal9
It seems that S670 / S770 / S970 PPF versions work very good with Genos.

Hi Francesco,
When Indian packs are available in PPF format, I tried several times on Tyros 5, they never worked out as none of the voices are getting ticked in YEM. I think Yamaha not allowed Yamaha Indian packs to be used for Genos and Tyros5.

I don't know what Yamaha is going to lose if the Indian expansion packs are  used on Genos and Tyros 5.

Sunny


This is strange. I've installed the Indian Entertainer pack (S770 / S970 version) into my Genos without problems. Check my link, I have uploaded it, maybe you can try again, otherwise it seems that YEM allows Genos but not Tyros 5.

I managed to download some of the free packs. Among them "Colors of Iberia V2"and "Greeting from Italy V2" both for Genos.None of those (and no other) can be imported to my YEM. It seems like it does not accept the cpf format. Every time I try to import a pack the YEM is closed. Whats's wrong?

Do you mean that YEM crashes? Uhm, it should show you an import error message if the pack(s) are not compatible with your keyboard, but if it closes itself sounds like a SW error. Do you have the latest YEM version installed?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: PAFF on July 23, 2020, 01:19:54 PM
 The message is that YEM was shut down unexpected and a long list with system configuration appears and you are asked to restart YEM. Unfortunately
the list is to complicated for me. Yes I have the latest version of YEM and I even reloaded the Genos keyboard information (n27).
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 23, 2020, 02:29:06 PM
Probably the YEM is still working on the ID system. If you load in a Tyros 5 ID or Genos ID to YEM it will work because it will know you have those keyboards and the packs will work.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: PAFF on July 23, 2020, 02:56:26 PM
Thats what I did. I loaded the Genos ID.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Misu on July 23, 2020, 03:32:21 PM
Thats what I did. I loaded the Genos ID.
Similar happens to me with traditional pack received by the keyboard store. Fortunately I don't care about.
I receive CPF and CPI, in time, after the version of YEM has change, CPI still work in keyboard but CPF can't be loaded in YEM so my personal opinion is
CPF are not recognized by the new version of YEM only work with the same version used to by create.
All my packs are PPF if you really need something and I have let me a message.
Regards.
Mihai
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: sunny on July 23, 2020, 06:13:52 PM
Sure! I have uploaded my PPF packs here --> https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ap_lPbsw3Hw3gSDN0uIS8iUb-Ens?e=dGBal9
It seems that S670 / S770 / S970 PPF versions work very good with Genos.

This is strange. I've installed the Indian Entertainer pack (S770 / S970 version) into my Genos without problems. Check my link, I have uploaded it, maybe you can try again, otherwise it seems that YEM allows Genos but not Tyros 5.

Do you mean that YEM crashes? Uhm, it should show you an import error message if the pack(s) are not compatible with your keyboard, but if it closes itself sounds like a SW error. Do you have the latest YEM version installed?

Hi Francesco,
I tried loading Indian Entertainer Pack into YEM for Tyros5, the voices are not getting ticked, you can see how Yamaha cleverly playing trick by not allowing Indian expansion packs to be used on Tyros 5 .

Sunny
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on July 23, 2020, 06:16:25 PM
Ehy not? I love Indian music. Hope they fix that!!!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Francesco Massa on July 23, 2020, 07:58:19 PM
Hi Francesco,
I tried loading Indian Entertainer Pack into YEM for Tyros5, the voices are not getting ticked, you can see how Yamaha cleverly playing trick by not allowing Indian expansion packs to be used on Tyros 5 .

Sunny

Some voice has been ticked (like the Tabla), but not others... Very strange  :-[
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: overover on July 23, 2020, 08:41:49 PM
I tried loading Indian Entertainer Pack into YEM for Tyros5, the voices are not getting ticked, you can see how Yamaha cleverly playing trick by not allowing Indian expansion packs to be used on Tyros 5. ...

Hi Sunny,

the Voices of certain Packs that cannot used on Tyros5 use Preset Waveforms that are not available on Tyros5 (but only on newer models like PSR-S97x, S77x, PSR-SX and Genos).

To my knowledge, there is no workaround or "hack" to can install those non-compatible Voices on Tyros5, at the moment. :(


P.S.
Maybe Caspar (ckobu) can say a little more about this. I have seen some posts of him on this topic in other keyboard forums.


Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: PAFF on July 23, 2020, 08:53:29 PM
I finally got the YEM to accept the cpf format. I reinstalled YEM three times and reloaded
the Genos ID  4 times before I got it working.I think there was a problem getting the
YEM to accept the GENOS ID.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Mike2 on July 23, 2020, 09:05:24 PM
I don't know about everyone else, but I am so tired of this thread. Are there NO limits. How many voices, styles, and wishes does one need to be happy with what they have, in my case the Genos Keyboard. I can tweak, edit styles, and voices to no end. So with that said, I cannot understand wanting more, unless one has totally exhausted their keyboard styles, and voice options, and everything else it has to offer.  I understand people love new sounds, styles, and whatever, I enjoy new styles and voices as well, but in the end it's all about playing and enjoying oneself. I fail to understand the cravings which is what it all sounds to me as being. But once again, everyone has the right to continue this thread if in the end, it enhances their keyboard skills, enjoyment and satisfies whatever void they are experiencing with their keyboard. I being a self taught musician would rather hear more threads about the skills that I can achieve with my keyboard and enjoy what I already have.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: thomas750 on July 23, 2020, 09:32:16 PM
hi guys
i just downloads many packs from yamaha it works great on this moment very fast downloading

thomas
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: RagJose on July 23, 2020, 10:32:35 PM
I don't know about everyone else...

You're right in that this thread got a bit tiring, Mike, but I blame it on the many problems encountered in trying to get the advertised free packs until they became finally available.

Concerning the motivation for the packs itself, in my view the Expansions deliver ready-to-use Styles and voices that do complement the internal assortment, particularly regional ones for Users "off the mainstream".  I found quite appealing ones in the Brazilian pack which will save me a lot of time in assembling/tweaking/editing.  This ultimately leads to the enjoyment that you mentioned.  Cheers!

José
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: marcodg on July 23, 2020, 11:42:41 PM
Hi everyone,
The Website is very fast now so I could download all the pack and all of them have 3 version, T5,T5-76 and Genos exept of Entertainer 2016 and Eurodance2016.
There are not in these last 2 pack Genos version. Did i miss something or i downloaded the wrong files ?
Thanks for replies
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Al Ram on July 24, 2020, 03:05:45 AM
I for one am very happy and grateful about this thread.   I learned a lot and managed to download several packs into Genos.  It seems that every time i get to this thread there is something new and useful for me.

I doubt that I will ever use all 100% of the new packs and contents . . . but that is not my expectation.   However, this enhances the future re-sell value of the Genos keyboard.

Thanks Yamaha and the members of this forum that shared the news and their knowledge.  Special thanks to Teknoss the member that placed the first post of this thread lettings us all know about this tremendous Yamaha offer.

Have a great day. 
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EB5AGV on July 24, 2020, 08:00:04 AM
Please, could someone in Europe put a direct link to the pack download page?. It seems kind of basic, sorry, but I have been unable to find it. I guess probably something has changed on Yamaha Europe site since my last visit months ago!

Stay safe!

Jose
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Esa on July 24, 2020, 09:04:11 AM

The European link is not working

Esa
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EB5AGV on July 24, 2020, 09:07:53 AM
The European link is not working

Esa

OK, thanks. I was feeling pretty dumb being unable to locate it  ;)

I have been able to log-in on US server and buy  ;D all free packs. I guess it is also a way to deal with this, but of course my account there is not the same as the EU one.

Jose
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Mega Voice on July 24, 2020, 12:55:01 PM
Can someone please help me? I own a Yamaha PSR-SX700 and downloaded the Middle East premium package, but I couldn't install it because Genos and Tyros don't allow it externally. I would be very glad if you export the cpf file used on other keyboards of this package.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 24, 2020, 01:02:46 PM
CPF files must be loaded into the YEM first and then you make up an install file on USB to import into your keyboard.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Gunnar Jonny on July 24, 2020, 01:20:17 PM

Looks like it mostly works OK at the US shop-site now. 👍 
Lots of free goodies for the Yammieusers that not has bought before Yamaha did this 'give away' stunt. 😊 
But, Yamaha could do this in a easier way, i.e. if they uploaded free packs to the same site as OS upgrades and free packs such as the audiofiles and manuals is to find.
Then it could be categorized for each model, they could keep the sales site for only the 'buyware' and it would be much more simple for the users. 👌

Anyway, have fun explore the goodies!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Dromeus on July 24, 2020, 02:01:46 PM
The European link is not working

While the former European site https://eu.yamahamusicsoft.com/ has been closed, the link is still working and redirects you to the US site https://shop.usa.yamaha.com/downloadables-world. This site fails to support other countries besides the US, the past teaches us that we should be prepared to wait for months (not weeks) for a fully functional site.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: overover on July 24, 2020, 02:13:53 PM
Can someone please help me? I own a Yamaha PSR-SX700 and downloaded the Middle East premium package, but I couldn't install it because Genos and Tyros don't allow it externally. I would be very glad if you export the cpf file used on other keyboards of this package.

Hi Mega Voice,

Premium Packs are only available for Tyros models and Genos, and because they are always in the protected .cpf format, there is no way to use those Packs on other models (like PSR-S or SX).

Please take a look to these free Local Packs for the PSR-A3000. These Packs are in the (non protected) .ppf format and should can be used also with the SX700.

https://asia-latinamerica-mea.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/psr-a3000/vse.html#product-tabs

The only thing is that some of these Packs are relativlely big, so maybe you have to deselect some content (in the YEM) when using with the SX700.

Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Dromeus on July 24, 2020, 02:24:03 PM
To whom it may concern... I'm happy to report that today download from the US site works perfectly here, even big packs of some 700 MB do work at a reasonable download speed of 5 MB/s. Good job, Yamaha!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: marcodg on July 24, 2020, 09:46:11 PM
Entertainer2016 and Eurodance2016 doesn't have Genos CPF and not working on Genos.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: overover on July 24, 2020, 10:21:14 PM
Entertainer2016 and Eurodance2016 doesn't have Genos CPF and not working on Genos.

Yes, they still have problems with some Packs. "Entertainer 2016 for Tyros5 / Genos" is a wrong file. (It's the "old" Tyros5 Entertainer version, containing only 10 Styles.)

Same with "Eurodance 2016 for Tyros5 / Genos". It obviously contains only the "old" Eurodance version for Tyros5 at the moment.


Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: marcodg on July 24, 2020, 10:54:35 PM
Yes, they still have problems with some Packs. "Entertainer 2016 for Tyros5 / Genos" is a wrong file. (It's the "old" Tyros5 Entertainer version, containing only 10 Styles.)

Same with "Eurodance 2016 for Tyros5 / Genos". It obviously contains only the "old" Eurodance version for Tyros5 at the moment.


Best regards,
Chris

Thanks for your reply.
Could someone please share these two Packs for Genos since there are free now ?
Regards
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: overover on July 24, 2020, 11:09:10 PM
Thanks for your reply.
Could someone please share these two Packs for Genos since there are free now ?
Regards

This will probably not work, because the previous (payed) versions of these Packs were "ID encrypted", to my knowledge. Such Packs work on one specific keyboard only.

The current (free) versions of Tyros5 and Genos Packs are also in the protected .cpf format, but they are NOT "ID encrypted". This means, such a "new" (free) Pack for Tyros5 now will work on ANY Tyros5, but not on a Genos (and vice versa).

I'm afraid we will have to wait for Yamaha to fix the "wrong" download file issue for the affected packs ...


Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on July 24, 2020, 11:24:41 PM
When the European site is up I want to install a pack with scat voices on my PSR-S975. Could you please recommand a pack?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Pino on July 25, 2020, 03:50:58 AM
I was going to buy a new Yamaha motorbike but after seeing all this absolute mess here I will stay with Honda.

What is YAMAHA playing at in front of the whole world.?

Pino
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: GUILLERMO on July 25, 2020, 04:06:36 AM

Hello, I live in Mexico and went to the Yamaha music soft site in the USA and downloaded several expansion packs without problem. Do not wait for an email with information, look in your library of the page and there are the packages to download them. Regards!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ton37 on July 25, 2020, 07:05:27 AM
I was going to ...

What is YAMAHA playing at in front of the whole world.?

Pino
I  wouldnot be surprised that, due to worlds bad economy, it could be Yamaha Music Devision ..... EOL, like Technics some years ago
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EB5AGV on July 25, 2020, 09:16:37 AM
I was going to buy a new Yamaha motorbike but after seeing all this absolute mess here I will stay with Honda.

What is YAMAHA playing at in front of the whole world.?

Pino

This is so silly... You are mixing apples and oranges IMHO
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: mikf on July 25, 2020, 10:40:47 AM
Are expansion packs available for CVPs - I cant find any?
mike
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Pino on July 25, 2020, 10:47:02 AM
Yamaha, a world wide, respectable, Japanese company,
I was just expecting a higher standard than this.
Sorry if it upset you, Jose

Pino
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 25, 2020, 12:27:09 PM
Covid has affected them just as much as anyone else and a lot are probably working from home and these problems will be solved in due course.
Hi Toryl there are no scat packs to my Knowledge Just the vocal pack which works well with Carpenter type music.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on July 25, 2020, 01:33:47 PM
Thanks Eileen😀
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 25, 2020, 04:12:24 PM
Covid has affected them just as much as anyone else and a lot are probably working from home and these problems will be solved in due course.
Hi Toryl there are no scat packs to my Knowledge Just the vocal pack which works well with Carpenter type music.

Not really, ICT (and this is ICT) should not have any impact by corona, as everything can be done remotely from where ever you are...   anyway, my personal productivity is much higher working from the home, as i do not have to continuously answer questions from people dropping in at the office..   and meetings are a lot more efficient using tools  like msteams..
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on July 25, 2020, 04:57:54 PM
I made a video with the process of downloading Packs. If someone has still failed to download the material, this tutorial may help.

https://youtu.be/9Im1h_GCIyM (https://youtu.be/9Im1h_GCIyM)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: jugge on July 25, 2020, 06:47:34 PM
Does anyone have a list of packs  available for Genos? When I did a search for "Genos", some packs like the Vintage Synth didn't come up in the search, so I am not sure how I can filter for packs that are available and work on Genos.

Thanks
/Jugge
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Esa on July 25, 2020, 07:21:17 PM
Everything seems to be messed up ...
whether it would be time for Yamaha to wake up for problem.

Sorry my english....

Esa
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on July 25, 2020, 08:21:03 PM
Does anyone have a list of packs  available for Genos? When I did a search for "Genos", some packs like the Vintage Synth didn't come up in the search, so I am not sure how I can filter for packs that are available and work on Genos.

Thanks
/Jugge

I downloaded one by one and set aside these packages for Genos.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Al Ram on July 25, 2020, 11:05:46 PM
CKobu

that is a very good list.    Thanks.

Comparing my downloads to your list .  . . i also downloaded the packages voices AltoSax and BaritoneSax for Genos and installed into the Genos keyboard .   . . .I was expecting a Sax voice/instrument however, when searching for a voice i do not find any Sax voices in these package . . . .. did you test . . . . ?

I believe there is no Sax voice in either of these two packages .   . . . my question for everyone else that downloaded the Sax packages . . . how do you use these two packages ?  what can you do with it ?

thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on July 25, 2020, 11:12:57 PM
You’re right, those two Packs only have a Registration Bank that activates Preset Voice.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Al Ram on July 26, 2020, 04:05:58 AM
Thanks for the confirmation.

Those 2 packs  AltoSax and BaritoneSax for Genos do not contain any Sax voices . . . . only a couple of registrations which are of no use to me . . . . So,  will proceed to delete the two packages.

Thanks and have a great day.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: jwyvern on July 26, 2020, 09:58:44 AM
There is no point in trying to download premium SA2 voices for Genos, since Genos V2 includes them all anyway.

John
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Esa on July 26, 2020, 09:59:44 AM
Genos cpf packages do not load into my yem  >:(
"The Pack could not be imported because there is no instrument capale of using this Pack"
What on earth ???? Version is V2.6.0

Esa
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: PAFF on July 26, 2020, 01:38:02 PM
I had rhe same problem Esa. Delete Genos from YEM  and reload the Genos ID.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 26, 2020, 02:01:59 PM
This is because we have those voices already in Genos.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: overover on July 26, 2020, 03:03:33 PM
Genos cpf packages do not load into my yem  >:(
"The Pack could not be imported because there is no instrument capale of using this Pack"
What on earth ???? Version is V2.6.0

Esa

Hi Esa,

yes, as already suggested by PAFF:

Delete the current Genos Install Target in YEM. Then export your Instrument Info file (.n27) from your Genos again and import it into YEM as new Install Target. (Genos must be updated to Version 2.02 before!)


Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: sunny on July 26, 2020, 07:19:25 PM
Hi Esa,

yes, as already suggested by PAFF:

Delete the current Genos Install Target in YEM. Then export your Instrument Info file (.n27) from your Genos again and import it into YEM as new Install Target. (Genos must be updated to Version 2.02 before!)


Best regards,
Chris

Hi Chris,
I got Same error  when i loaded Indian Tals pack on Tyros5 as
"The Pack could not be imported because there is no instrument capable of using this Pack"

 Will it work for Tyros 5 also when i delete Tyros5 and reinstall again ?

Thanks,
Sunny
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: sunny on July 26, 2020, 07:25:17 PM
Hi Sunny,

the Voices of certain Packs that cannot used on Tyros5 use Preset Waveforms that are not available on Tyros5 (but only on newer models like PSR-S97x, S77x, PSR-SX and Genos).

To my knowledge, there is no workaround or "hack" to can install those non-compatible Voices on Tyros5, at the moment. :(


P.S.
Maybe Caspar (ckobu) can say a little more about this. I have seen some posts of him on this topic in other keyboard forums.


Best regards,
Chris

Hi Chris,
 Does it mean that Indian expansion packs which are compatible with PSR SX900 expansion packs are also compatible with Genos keyboard ?

Sunny
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 26, 2020, 09:04:21 PM
I downloaded one by one and set aside these packages for Genos.

Seems still some packs are missing? Like the entertainer pack?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on July 26, 2020, 09:16:05 PM
Hi Chris,
 Does it mean that Indian expansion packs which are compatible with PSR SX900 expansion packs are also compatible with Genos keyboard ?

Sunny

@overover is right. Tyros5 cannot use Preset Waveform from newer models. Genos can. Pictured is the Pack (* .ppf) made with Genos sounds and they are gray if we select Tyros5 as the Instal Target.

But now that we have the * .cpf Free Pack, we can only use the model for which the Pack was created. For example, a Pack made for Tyros 5 cannot be entered in Genos.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on July 26, 2020, 09:21:14 PM
Seems still some packs are missing? Like the entertainer pack?
This is all I was able to download and successfully install in Genos. I believe new Packs will be added to the Shop. For now, I'm using the Entertainer Pack (ppf) from the psr s970.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Al Ram on July 26, 2020, 09:56:50 PM
Ckobu 

Interesting . . . . so, you were able to install an entertainer.ppf from psrS970 into Genos ?

where did you get this ppf file ?  I downloaded several entertainer packs but i can only see cpf extensions not ppf

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on July 26, 2020, 10:20:05 PM
Previously, one Free Package came with the purchase of a keyboard. So I got a ppf. It can also be installed in Genos.
Now all Packs are free and come in the form of * .cpf. They only apply to a specific model.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: overover on July 26, 2020, 10:34:39 PM
Hi Chris,
I got Same error  when i loaded Indian Tals pack on Tyros5 as
"The Pack could not be imported because there is no instrument capable of using this Pack"

 Will it work for Tyros 5 also when i delete Tyros5 and reinstall again ? ...

Hi Sunny,

no, Esa tried to import .cpf Packs that was originally made for GENOS, he could not import the Packs because (in my opinion) he had not yet imported the current Genos Instrument Info file (.n27) as an Install Target in the YEM.

In your case, the reason that you cannot import the "Indian Taals" Pack is: The now free downloadable version of this Pack is only available in .cpf format, and only for the PSR-S670. This .cpf cannot be used for any other model, unforunately. (The Pack could be imported into YEM if there was also an PSR-S670 Install Target. But you can not select it for use with e.g. the Tyros5.

I have a .ppf version of "Indian Taals" Pack that was downloadable for free in the past. A .ppf can ALWAYS be imported into YEM (and usually can be used on several instruments). BUT in the case of "Indian Taals" Pack, unfortunately many Voices are NOT COMPATIBLE with Tyros5. (See the attached picture.)

I could upload my .ppf version of "Indian Taals" if you wish, but as mentioned it is not fully compatible with Tyros5 ...


Hi Chris,
 Does it mean that Indian expansion packs which are compatible with PSR SX900 expansion packs are also compatible with Genos keyboard ? ...

As mentioned before, a .cpf Pack can only be used with the specific model it was originally made for. So, to use with the Tyros5 you need a .cpf pack that was made specifically for the Tyros5 OR a Pack in .ppf format.


Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Mike2 on July 26, 2020, 10:47:36 PM
This is getting worst by the day. Please, can someone explain what the hell I am missing for free??? This thread is all about getting something for free, no matter how you explain it. Is it worth it after all these post? Just curious?? After all, I have not seen much excitement, except frustration with this thread.
I say keep it going, if this is what you call technology...I'll continue to play and enjoy all that my Genos has to offer. If one doesn't, the first thing you know, a new Genos 2 will be available, and that will add to another frustration or expectation, that will take up more of your time than enjoyment playing of your keyboard, which should be first.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on July 26, 2020, 11:03:24 PM
@ Mike2 - this may seem like a frustration to you, but we're having a good time. It’s all a matter of perception and outlook on life.

For me, this thread is fun, and FreePack is a nice exploration.
It's easy, download your packages and enjoy the game.

Or enjoy your Genos in version 1.04 and unsubscribe from the topic.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on July 26, 2020, 11:46:55 PM
Stalking the prey is part of the fun. Here the prey is an expert in hiding, so we load our YEM and shoot :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Dromeus on July 27, 2020, 08:40:34 AM
I cannot see anything "going worst" here, on contrary. In fact it started quite strange when Yamaha went live with a shop that was the worst piece of web software I've ever seen from a world class company like Yamaha. Let's face it: if you announce premium packs to be free there will be a huge interest and demand. It's just human and there is nothing wrong with it. When making a business decision to migrate to a new shop and at the same time to give away a bunch of software with a value of a few 100 bucks for free, you'd better get your sh*t together.

BUT it's getting better all the time...  ;D. There are some real gems to explore e.g. I really like the Vintage Synth/Keyboard packs. Your mileage may vary but it's worth the time to check out those packs that suit your needs. If you're really not interested in additional software for your Genos, then why read this thread at all?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Mega Voice on July 27, 2020, 09:26:17 AM
Hi Mega Voice,

Premium Packs are only available for Tyros models and Genos, and because they are always in the protected .cpf format, there is no way to use those Packs on other models (like PSR-S or SX).

Please take a look to these free Local Packs for the PSR-A3000. These Packs are in the (non protected) .ppf format and should can be used also with the SX700.

https://asia-latinamerica-mea.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/psr-a3000/vse.html#product-tabs

The only thing is that some of these Packs are relativlely big, so maybe you have to deselect some content (in the YEM) when using with the SX700.

Best regards,
Chris

I think you know it wrong. I have the Genos Balkan & Turkey cpf package and I can load this package as cpi in sx700 keyboard. But I can't do the same with the middle eastern package I downloaded. I want the cpf file, which is the package before it was free. I would be very happy if you could help.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 27, 2020, 10:37:02 AM
Hi
Go Software with VST and combine that with The Genos.
It will make the Yamaha packs look silly
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 27, 2020, 12:31:17 PM
John,
  That is not what people want here. They want the free Yamaha packs and the new voices and styles in them. I must add some are very good.
  If you want to keep pushing all this electronic stuff then why not start a new thread. Believe it or not there are still some people who are more than happy just using there keyboards as they are and producing some great music.
  During lock down I have been listening to a small group that formed to bring us a hour of live played music for an hour in the morning and then in the evening. They use Tyros3 to Genos and there talent is just fantastic. It is a joy to watch. I know they will make good use of some of these packs.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 27, 2020, 02:08:00 PM
Hi Eileen

People want diversness on this forum  and all i am saying is something that i can pass on. That is how i have learnt this by others opinions
If we were all the same it would be boring
I am not pushing anything as I have nothing to gain.
This forum is for live players and home studio players as well.
I still maintain you do not get much for free!!. Not these days anyway.IMO>

All the Best
John
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: sunny on July 27, 2020, 02:45:20 PM
Hi Sunny,

no, Esa tried to import .cpf Packs that was originally made for GENOS, he could not import the Packs because (in my opinion) he had not yet imported the current Genos Instrument Info file (.n27) as an Install Target in the YEM.

In your case, the reason that you cannot import the "Indian Taals" Pack is: The now free downloadable version of this Pack is only available in .cpf format, and only for the PSR-S670. This .cpf cannot be used for any other model, unforunately. (The Pack could be imported into YEM if there was also an PSR-S670 Install Target. But you can not select it for use with e.g. the Tyros5.

I have a .ppf version of "Indian Taals" Pack that was downloadable for free in the past. A .ppf can ALWAYS be imported into YEM (and usually can be used on several instruments). BUT in the case of "Indian Taals" Pack, unfortunately many Voices are NOT COMPATIBLE with Tyros5. (See the attached picture.)

I could upload my .ppf version of "Indian Taals" if you wish, but as mentioned it is not fully compatible with Tyros5 ...


As mentioned before, a .cpf Pack can only be used with the specific model it was originally made for. So, to use with the Tyros5 you need a .cpf pack that was made specifically for the Tyros5 OR a Pack in .ppf format.


Best regards,
Chris

Hi all,

There are 4 Indian packs such as Indian Taals, Indian 2, Indian Entertainer & Indian Devotional pack1 are available for free download, but none of these packs work on Tyros5.  Tyros5 players are most disappointed. Now no hopes on Yamaha  because no  response from Yamaha to my email. I still unable to understand what Yamaha will lose if Indian packs are made compatible with Tyros 5.

Any programs available that can extract voices from CPF and PPF formats, so that I can create my own CPF pack with YEM ?

Thanks,
Sunny
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: soundphase on July 27, 2020, 02:59:20 PM
Hi Eileen

People want diversness on this forum  and all i am saying is something that i can pass on. That is how i have learnt this by others opinions
If we were all the same it would be boring
I am not pushing anything as I have nothing to gain.
This forum is for live players and home studio players as well.
I still maintain you do not get much for free!!. Not these days anyway.IMO>

All the Best
John
I'm quite sure that the current Genos CPU power with 1TB instead of 3GB, and perhaps with some new sound algorithms  (i would like the random algorihm used for new drums to be used for other acoustic sounds to imitate natural changes) will allow us to take profit  from sounds at the VST quality. The Genos will then have professional sounds with the "sit and play" so enjoyable capability. Everybody will be happy.

But effectively for live professional results... I would like a smooth sound transition, as it is very annoying to have to align all DSP/Volume/EQ parameters between registrations (even if it is often possible to do so) to avoid the unpleasant sound holes and leaps at registration switches. And, that could require far more CPU and internal channels.

Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 27, 2020, 05:14:34 PM
Again this has nothing to do with the original title of this thread and free packs from Yamaha. Some people are having problems getting them and some  are not and that is what is being discussed and the European site will be ready to download from.
  There are other threads where VST and DAW's can be discussed.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 27, 2020, 05:22:52 PM
Hi John,
  I know that people want diverseness on a forum but I was referring to sticking to the subject of a thread which is all about a certain subject. If different bits not related to a subject are posted all over the forum all you achieve is a muddle and members wont know if they are coming or going.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: elad770 on July 27, 2020, 07:01:26 PM
Hi John,
  I know that people want diverseness on a forum but I was referring to sticking to the subject of a thread which is all about a certain subject. If different bits not related to a subject are posted all over the forum all you achieve is a muddle and members wont know if they are coming or going.

It's so difficult to stick to the exact subject with no diversions...for   10 pages! LOL
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ugawoga on July 27, 2020, 09:56:18 PM
HI Eileen

You will have to use Gorilla Glue to make us stick to the subject!!  Another big Lol!! ;D


All the Best
John :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on July 27, 2020, 10:12:01 PM
Wasn't it about some free packs from Yamaha? That are free to download if you can? Yet another LOL :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 27, 2020, 10:26:47 PM
Quite a few members have managed to download packs. It seems to be the European site that is still being worked on.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Wim on July 27, 2020, 11:15:27 PM
Quite a few members have managed to download packs. It seems to be the European site that is still being worked on.

Indeed Eileen as I mentioned in an earlier messsage. They think the site is ready to the end of august. In the mean time I managed to download the packs at the US site.
rgds
Wim
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: terryB on July 28, 2020, 03:49:49 PM
 Hi - The packs for ''Colours  of Iberia'' and ''Greetings from Italy'' have a second version '' V2 ''  are these the same packs but upgraded in or different ?  ???

Cheers Terry
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 28, 2020, 04:18:11 PM
As far as I know they are different.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on July 28, 2020, 04:23:31 PM
Hi - The packs for ''Colours  of Iberia'' and ''Greetings from Italy'' have a second version '' V2 ''  are these the same packs but upgraded in or different ?  ???

Cheers Terry

These are the same packages but the V2 has been upgraded with new Styles and Voices.  All Styles in V2 are tuned with the Revo drum.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on July 28, 2020, 10:24:30 PM
Hello :)
When I select Expansion packs on Musicsoft, I get an error message. Could someone give me a link to the site where you were able to download packs?
BTW, the site looks worse than ever, at least for me with my low vision. Big sigh...
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on July 28, 2020, 10:32:06 PM
I made a video with the process of downloading Packs. If someone has still failed to download the material, this tutorial may help.

https://youtu.be/9Im1h_GCIyM (https://youtu.be/9Im1h_GCIyM)

@Toril S - did you watch my video, I download (EU) without any problems.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on July 28, 2020, 10:43:01 PM
Hello, I tried to watch the video. Unfortunately I don't see it well enough.
I logged in, went to downloadables and to packs, then got error message.
Does anyone have the link to the U.S site, as this seems to work?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on July 28, 2020, 10:46:37 PM
https://shop.usa.yamaha.com/ (https://shop.usa.yamaha.com/)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 28, 2020, 10:47:17 PM
Here is the site I used for my packs Toryl

https://shop.usa.yamaha.com/downloadables-world
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on July 28, 2020, 11:05:07 PM
Thanks ckobu and Eileen :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on July 28, 2020, 11:14:13 PM
I am logged in with my name showing in right upper corner of the page, than go to shop packs, and this message comes:

We can't find products matching the selection.

So WHY THE H.... doesn't it work here when many others are able to get it to work?
This turned out to be excactly as disappointing as I imagined it would be.
I will have to go to bed before I blow a fuse!

Thanks friends for trying to help :) You are the best!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on July 28, 2020, 11:50:16 PM
01. While logged in, click on the magnifying glass and enter the name of the keyboard you have (Figure 1) - The results will appear (oval red circle) and click on one Package
02. Click on the ADD TO CARD field (picture 2)
03. Repeat this procedure for the other Pack you want to download
04. Click on the cart icon (top right) and then on the PROCEED TO CHECKOUT field (picture 03)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on July 28, 2020, 11:50:51 PM
05. Return to My Account and select My Orders, click on PLACE ORDER (picture 04)
06. Select My Library and wait a few minutes. Click Refresh in the browser and when the Satus of the order is Available click on the Package Name. (picture 05)

I wish you a peaceful sleep. And success in downloading the Package tomorrow.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on July 28, 2020, 11:54:50 PM
Thanks a lot ckobu!! I try again timorrow😀
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: terryB on July 29, 2020, 01:07:36 PM
The Entertainer pack on the website says for Genos/Tyros, yet when I extract the files only the cpf files for Tyros and T5-76 are there  :-\, how do we get a file for Genos.?  ??? Is this pack worth having ? what sort of material does it contain ?  8)

Cheers Terry
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on July 29, 2020, 01:14:26 PM
Yes, Entertainer Pack and also Euro Dance does not exist for Genos. I hope Yamaha will correct that.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: terryB on July 29, 2020, 01:31:14 PM
Thanks Ckobu. Previously cpf files where related to the owners instrument ID only, now the files for the freebies are also cpf, but only tied to the instrument model. I already have, (IMO), the best packs that I have purchased over the years, eg. Celtic, Country Musician, Vintage synth and Keyboard plus a couple of others together with some third party packs. I am wondering if I should download the packs I already have (ie  Yamaha ones) so that I have a set not tied
only to my Genos ??. I see from an earlier post that Ckobu has both versions of a pack on his instrument. At the moment I cannot get to my library on the European site to redownload my paid for files if I needed to  :-\

Cheers Terry
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Gunnar Jonny on July 29, 2020, 01:58:52 PM
.. I am wondering if I should download the packs I already have (ie  Yamaha ones) so that I have a set not tied
only to my Genos ??

I've done that, downloaded all the Y free-packs for Genos just to be safe if the bought packs is tied to the exact keyboard.
As said above by ckobu, some of the packs still miss the Genos format.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: voodoo on July 29, 2020, 02:28:19 PM
I've done that, downloaded all the Y free-packs for Genos just to be safe if the bought packs is tied to the exact keyboard.
As said above by ckobu, some of the packs still miss the Genos format.

Hi,

the files used before were not bound to an exact keyboard serial number, but to a user account. You had to use email and password to open it in YEM. After this, you could install it on any device, supporting the format. So all my PSR packs could be installed in my Genos, as long as I remember my password.

The files used now are not bound to an account, but are bound a keyboard type. Now we don't need our email/password to open it, and we can give it to friends without having to give them our password. But now PSR-packs are bound to PSR keyboards and cannot be used for Genos.

So why should we download the new files? For the the case that we forget our password, or Yamaha stops the password authentication server. Then the old files cannot be used any longer. So for any case, save the new files.

Uli
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 29, 2020, 02:44:55 PM
Anyone figured out how the coding of those zip files you download works?

Is there a logic behind those YCJ .....  VZ codes that allows you to indentify what kind of pack it is?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Gunnar Jonny on July 29, 2020, 02:59:01 PM
.... You had to use email and password to open it in YEM.

I've never had to do it that way. Probably different between different models. 🤔
With T4 or Genos, just imported the instrument id-file direct into YEM and add pacs from PC folder.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: tyrosman on July 29, 2020, 06:07:23 PM
Previously, one Free Package came with the purchase of a keyboard. So I got a ppf. It can also be installed in Genos.
Now all Packs are free and come in the form of * .cpf. They only apply to a specific model.
i do not no how you done this im having the same trouble both the CPF files do not even load into the yem they do not exsist for genos
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: tyrosman on July 29, 2020, 06:08:12 PM
Genos cpf packages do not load into my yem  >:(
"The Pack could not be imported because there is no instrument capale of using this Pack"
What on earth ???? Version is V2.6.0

Esa
  it says the same on my YEM as well
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Al Ram on July 29, 2020, 06:20:52 PM
Yes, Entertainer Pack and also Euro Dance does not exist for Genos. I hope Yamaha will correct that.

Ckobu
FYI 
I downloaded from the Yamaha website and installed the EuroDance pack into Genos and it is working fine.   I used the EuroDance SX900SX700.ppf . . . loaded into YEM, created the cpi and installed into Genos.    I have tested it --not exhaustively-- it seems to be working fine for me.

Thanks


 
 
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on July 29, 2020, 06:33:23 PM
I do not know. Everything I downloaded for the SX700 / 900 is in cpf format. And it doesn’t go into the Genos Pack.

The "old" EuroDance.ppf made for the S970 can be entered in the Genos Pack.

But it doesn’t matter because it’s obviously the same or very similar content.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 30, 2020, 08:34:41 PM
I do not know. Everything I downloaded for the SX700 / 900 is in cpf format. And it doesn’t go into the Genos Pack.

The "old" EuroDance.ppf made for the S970 can be entered in the Genos Pack.

But it doesn’t matter because it’s obviously the same or very similar content.

I got it all done today for my Genos
Every Genos pack is in my Yem..
Also got 1 T5 pack (indian worship styles) that worked in Yem for Genos.

I ended up with one empty pack (Romanian 2)
I didn’t find the Genos Alpen pack, but think thats part of the V2.0 expansion
Whats missing seems to be the entertainer packs, both of them and the entertainer styles pack..


Will not be able to upload to the Genos till i am home again next week..
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on July 30, 2020, 10:50:15 PM
Has anyone from Norway been able to download anything. It doesn't work for me. I get a message, wrong country code, and a message that the selected pages cannot be found.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on July 30, 2020, 11:29:03 PM
I have done according to the helpful post of ckubu. Found the packs, added them to shopping cart, then I get the message: Invalid country code, and when I look in the shopping cart it gives me the happy message: You have no items in your shopping cart. How do I add this country code for Norway then?? Never heard of anything like it! Everyone getting those free packs, and here I sit, with a long nose and a big disappointment.....
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on July 31, 2020, 12:16:29 AM
Even sending a message to Yamaha Support was NOT easy. The form kept stating that my phone number was invalid, so I had to add fake digits for the form to accept it. Same with zip code. We don't have those in Norway, so I had to fabricate one. After many, many tries I was able to send a message asking for help from Yamaha. YAMAHA, THIS IS NO GOOD!
Now I am really angry, yes, maybe not a feeling to be proud of, but nevertheless I am boiling with frustration.
Thanks to all that tried to help :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: overover on July 31, 2020, 12:42:17 AM
Hi Toril,

"ZIP code" means "Postal code" here. Wikipedia says in Norway you have a 4-digit "postnummer":

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_codes_in_Norway


I recommend you  to click on "Address Book" in your MusicSoft account, and click on "Change Billing Address".

Set the "Country" to "Norway" and fill in the other necessary fields (which have a red asterisk), including the "ZIP / Postal Code" field. Click "Save Address" button.

If there is also a "Default Shipping Address", do the same changes here.

Click on "Account Information". IF there should be a DIFFERENT entry in the "ZIP Code" field here, simply type in the right code (same as in your Address) and click on SAVE button.


Now you should no longer get annoying messages like "Invalid Country Code".


Hope this helps!

Best regards,
Chris



Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: fozzie on July 31, 2020, 08:37:00 AM
Hi Toril!
ZIP code try 0000
It worked for me in Sweden

/fozzie
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on July 31, 2020, 09:54:46 AM
Thanks Chris and fozzie. :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 31, 2020, 12:01:32 PM
Hello Toryl,
  It is only the USA site that is working at present. The European site is not expected to be up and running for another month. Some members here have kindly posted links to there packs for Genos which you can try.
  Be aware though that Yamaha seemed to have changed all packs to CPI and this means that only packs marked for a specific keyboard will work for you so no good downloading packs for Tyros 5 or 970 because they will not load into YEM.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: pmahl on July 31, 2020, 12:28:42 PM
Hi,
For those who cannot download the Expansion Packs for Tyros 5:

https://1drv.ms/u/s!AlTwkHoKnu1pkk-T7pzKr5u8pXZp?e=Bn8enP

Peter
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Lee Batchelor on July 31, 2020, 02:02:09 PM
I finally decided to look into these free expansion packs. My thoughts are as follows:
Opinions?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on July 31, 2020, 02:19:09 PM
Hi Lee,
  You should neve believe half the stuff you read on any forum about problems. You should always keep you keyboard up to date and also the YEM. This way you will not have any trouble. You must make sure that when updating the YEM you upload your keyboard ID again to let it know you are using the latest keyboard version. Most packs for Genos are on there and they are very good and if you have not got them well worth having.
Are you signing into your account when going onto Musicsoft site. This helps.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Stijn on July 31, 2020, 02:20:10 PM
@ Lee Batchelor

You really should update to version 2.02. You're missing out really good features on your Genos. I love the way Genos shows information on the display, in particular the moving bars on top.
And yes, after the firmware update you have to update YEM as well and re-load the INF file from your Genos.

Stijn
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on July 31, 2020, 02:39:29 PM
@Lee - A keyboard update is required. Problems reported by users are always and without exception related to mishandling and upgrading. In addition, if something goes wrong, the old firmware version can always be restored.
I have installed all the Free packages available for Genos. There are great things for every type of music. My favorites are Vintage Synth, Vintage Key, Country Music, great Italian V2 Pack and Latin EU. In other Packs there is always something interesting like the voice of Buzuki in the Greek Pack.
The web shop is still being processed and you don't have to be impatient, everything will be in place in a short time.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: tyrosaurus on July 31, 2020, 03:34:05 PM
In addition, if something goes wrong, the old firmware version can always be restored.

Genos Firmware version 1.40 came with a warning which said:

"* The previous firmware version cannot be restored after updating the firmware to this version"

Since the user would be updating from version 1.20 to 2.02,  presumably it will not be possible to restore a firmware version earlier than 1.40 after installing the update!


Regards

Ian
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on July 31, 2020, 04:13:53 PM
tyrosaurus - You’re probably right, they won’t be able to go back to version 1.20.
Specifically, the first version of Genos was 1.02. Today we have 2.20 and with this upgrade we have a completely different, better instrument.
I understand the fear of users who do not have the knowledge to upgrade.
But if we look at the list of what has been patched and fixed in the OS so far, I see no reason why we shouldn’t leave that job to someone who is an expert and who they trust.

Let everyone have their will and choice, I’m just trying to be realistic and practical.

I’ll be a little off topic but I’ll copy everything that any player who has the first version of Genos loses.

https://europe.yamaha.com/en/support/updates/firm_genos.html (https://europe.yamaha.com/en/support/updates/firm_genos.html)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 31, 2020, 06:33:01 PM
Genos Firmware version 1.40 came with a warning which said:

"* The previous firmware version cannot be restored after updating the firmware to this version"

Since the user would be updating from version 1.20 to 2.02,  presumably it will not be possible to restore a firmware version earlier than 1.40 after installing the update!


Regards

Ian

Why would you want to run an older firmware version?
This is Yamaha, and they generally don’t ruin anything when upgrading.
And small mistakes are quickly patched after any major patch.

I just watch these forums for a week after release..
And then do an upgrade and never look back
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Lee Batchelor on July 31, 2020, 06:45:38 PM
Thanks all for your input :)!

I use a lot of technology in my work and music. I can honestly say that most updates I have engaged in have come with a boatload of problems, the least of which is things that no longer work right or the removal of very useful tools that some moron decided I didn't need anymore. The so-called "new and improved" upgrades were always loaded with major bugs that caused terrible bumps to my workflow. Microsoft is the king in that department. Steinberg is a close second. Yamaha owns them, hence, my apprehension.

Now that we've been given the boot from the live stage due to this Covid nonsense, I probably have time to recover from any hiccups in the update process. I certainly expect there will be a few. If I upgrade to 2.2, I assume I can just bypass all updates in between? Are there easy and complete instructions somewhere - intructions that don't assume I know how to build my own Genos? Thanks :)!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on July 31, 2020, 06:54:33 PM
Thanks Eileen. Have not succeded yet. I am trying to use the U. S site, as I understand that many have used this without problems. No luck so far. By the way, what is the name of the pack for s975 with choir voices?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Stijn on July 31, 2020, 07:12:37 PM
@ Batchelor

Here are the instructions for the update:

1) Download the firmware https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/genos/downloads.html#product-tabs (https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/genos/downloads.html#product-tabs)
 a) Download the Zip file to the computer.
 b) Connect the USB flash drive to your computer. (!!! USB drive should be formatted on your Genos)
 c) Extract the *.prg file and copy it to the root directory of your USB flash drive.
 
2) Connect the USB flash drive to the instrument (Genos = switched off!!)
 
3) Install the firmware
 a) While holding down the STYLE CONTROL [START/STOP] button on the panel, turn the power on. (3 to 5 seconds, then release the ON button)
 b) Follow the message that appears on the screen.
 c) When firmware installation is complete, press the power button on the instrument to turn it off.

Switch ON Genos and Check:
- press [MENU] - [Utility], [System] ---> should read 2.02

After the update:
This update Resets every SYSTEM settings you ever made.
Quote:  Loading your 1.xx System backup will not work after the 2.0x update
So, no need to make a System backup - it cannot be restored.

Here are some instructions on how to set up your Genos after the 2.02 update.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/mtrtbqubydw1yvc/Basic%20Setup%20after%202.0x%20update.pdf?dl=0

Stijn
 
PS, after this update you can install the GENOS V2.0 SUPERIOR PACK, and lots of other goodies.
Also available on this site: scroll down to Other Downloads

https://uk.yamaha.com/en/products/musical_instruments/keyboards/arranger_workstations/genos/downloads.html#product-tabs

And see my answer to Toril below to find links to some of the free Yamaha Packs.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Stijn on July 31, 2020, 07:23:54 PM
@ Toril

You can download some of the new packs for GENOS from my Dropbox:
BallroomStyle_Genos, Celtic_Genos, Choir&Vocals_Genos, Colors of Iberia 2 Genos and Euro&US Organ_Genos:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r686w5l7o8kal62/Free%20packs%201%20Jul%202020.zip?dl=0

And here is a link to Best_of_Europe_Genos

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kf4cwu53y8zs2nb/Best_of_Europe_Genos.cpf?dl=0

Stijn
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on July 31, 2020, 07:38:35 PM
@ Toril

You can download some of the new packs for GENOS from my Dropbox:
BallroomStyle_Genos, Celtic_Genos, Choir&Vocals_Genos, Colors of Iberia 2 Genos and Euro&US Organ_Genos:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/r686w5l7o8kal62/Free%20packs%201%20Jul%202020.zip?dl=0

And here is a link to Best_of_Europe_Genos

https://www.dropbox.com/s/kf4cwu53y8zs2nb/Best_of_Europe_Genos.cpf?dl=0

Stijn

Wasnt the choirs and vocals part of the V2.0 upgrade?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Lee Batchelor on July 31, 2020, 09:00:48 PM
Stijn, I pressed the Say Thanks button but wanted to do it publicly as well. Many thanks, my friend (and everyone else who helped me) :)!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on July 31, 2020, 10:25:03 PM
Thanks a lot Stijn!!
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Stijn on August 01, 2020, 09:56:07 AM
Wasnt the choirs and vocals part of the V2.0 upgrade?

I checked the Genos V2 Superior Pack but the choirs and vocals are not included.

Stijn
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on August 01, 2020, 10:47:57 AM
I checked the Genos V2 Superior Pack but the choirs and vocals are not included.

Stijn

Thanks Stijn, i am on vacation, so couldn’t check this on my Genos.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on August 01, 2020, 03:59:30 PM
On version two there are two lady's vocal voices that were originally in a small pack.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: henrycar on August 01, 2020, 05:55:41 PM
Thanks, Pmahl the packs work good except for the Enterteiner 2016.
 YEM won't read it.
Is this pack for T5 only? I have T5 76 cut this be the reason?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Esa on August 01, 2020, 06:18:02 PM
Thanks Stijn !!!

esa
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Del B on August 01, 2020, 06:26:25 PM
I Downloaded a whole bunch and loaded them up to my T5/76 and they are working fine the only problem now is I have no more space on my 1024mb expansion and the 2gb is like £345  :obut been having some fun with the new packs
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: overover on August 01, 2020, 07:43:24 PM
Thanks, Pmahl the packs work good except for the Enterteiner 2016.
 YEM won't read it.
Is this pack for T5 only? I have T5 76 cut this be the reason?

Hi henrycar,

the Pack "Entertainer 2016 Style Expansion" has a wrong file type (.sme). Obviously, this is an internal Yamaha format they uploaded by mistake.

You can't do anything with those .sme files. We must wait until the Yamaha support will have fixed it.


Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on August 02, 2020, 12:06:32 AM
Hello friends :)
I sent an email to Yamaha and asked for their help yesterday, and they answered me today! They told me that they had updated my account, and that it would work now, AND IT DOES!!! SO I have been able to place an order! Order is pending. So hopefully I will finally be able to use some expansion packs! Thanks for all good help from you friends, and I fear I will have to ask a couple of questions when it comes to loading the packs into YEM and into the keyboards. Good service from Yamaha! I take my hat off.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: pmahl on August 02, 2020, 10:14:29 AM
Hy henrycar,

As mentioned by Chris this was a mistake. Yamaha also offers a pack called Entertainer 2016 Genos/Tyros. But this is identical to the Pack Entertainer EU. That means, there is only the Pack Entertainer EU at the moment.

Peter
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on August 02, 2020, 03:54:39 PM
Hi Toryl,
  Pleased you are sorted and can now download your packs from your account. Don't forget to unzip them to load into YEM.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on August 02, 2020, 04:33:48 PM
Thanks Eileen😀
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on August 02, 2020, 10:36:06 PM
Hello friends :)
Just wondering, today I just got an order confirmation from Yamaha, no download links.
Is this how it works? Never done this before. These packs are free now, so why all this paper shuffling?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Senn5 on August 02, 2020, 10:46:02 PM
Hi Tori...:)
Log back into your account on that download page and go to my account.
Then click on my library and it will show all the files you have order and should show status available. Just click on each file youwant and it will start to download for you.
I agree its a real goofey way of doing things but that has worked well for me so far.

Good luck and have a great day...:)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Toril S on August 02, 2020, 11:03:42 PM
Thanks Senn5 :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: henrycar on August 02, 2020, 11:34:10 PM
Thanks again Pmahl.

Thanks for expaning Overover.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: mcbrown on August 03, 2020, 08:56:31 AM
Hi Genos players and downloaders,
I have downloaded 17 packs but cant seem to download the "Best of Europe" which my computer is saying is 944mb  and seems to be about three times larger than some of the other files. It gets to about 730mb and then starts from zero again and I have tried multiple times. I have downloaded Stijn's cpf file (thanks Stijn) which is just over 86mb. All just seems to be a bit strange but then again this new Yamaha website is a bit of a mess.

Anyone had similar issues?

Murray
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on August 03, 2020, 10:18:00 AM
The size of the Package is confusing but the Genos Pack is 88mb in size. I don’t know why it’s so big for Tyros 5. Best of Europe is installed on my Genos and works properly.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on August 03, 2020, 07:03:04 PM
The size of the Package is confusing but the Genos Pack is 88mb in size. I don’t know why it’s so big for Tyros 5. Best of Europe is installed on my Genos and works properly.

Probably because most of the best of europe pack from T5 made its way into the base version of the Genos?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: gary3917 on August 04, 2020, 03:57:49 AM
I could not get any to load correctly , but I downloaded the Yem 2.7 upgrade and everything worked perfectly

https://usa.yamaha.com/support/updates/yem_win.html
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: gary3917 on August 05, 2020, 05:32:15 PM
is there a way to load the styles only from these packs ....my tyros 5 is maxed out . I really dont care for the sounds, but I do want more styles. Casper has explained this in a youtube video but i would like an English version if possible . Can some one direct me to some tutorial for this in English ?
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: TyrosTempest on August 05, 2020, 05:43:45 PM
Hi Gary
            Yes you can when your In yem and the green ticks light up for your packs ready to load.
            Simply un tick them with your mouse leaving the styles only.
            Then just load them as you normally do on to your usb stick.
            I have Tyros 5 and did this today with no problems.
            Hope this helps you.   
           
                 Ernie.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: sunny on August 05, 2020, 05:53:55 PM
Friends,

What is the email address of Yamaha music soft ?

Sunny
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on August 05, 2020, 06:37:57 PM
Go to page one of this thread and you will see it.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: TyrosTempest on August 05, 2020, 06:42:14 PM
Hi sunny
              I just typed into Google,welcome Yamaha musicsoft dealers!

                          I think Eileen beat me to though.

                      Ernie  :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: sunny on August 05, 2020, 07:30:01 PM
Go to page one of this thread and you will see it.

Hi Eileen,
  I checked page1 of this thread, but not found email address of Yamaha Music Soft.

Sunny
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on August 05, 2020, 10:23:22 PM
It is on the very first message

https://shop.usa.yamaha.com/downloadables-world
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Gunnar Jonny on August 06, 2020, 08:54:49 AM
Hi Sunny, 
there is no email adress at the page, at least as I have found, but scroll down and at the supportpage there is a contact-form.
Sadly it's complicated to use, or useless for those of us that's not have an US adress and zipcode.
We have to wait until the EU site is back. If it ever will happen .... 🤔
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: soryt on August 06, 2020, 01:16:53 PM
I totaly lost the trust in how Yamaha manage this site , all my purchases( payed a lot for them) from the past  are gone on my account .
And i dont get answers on my mails i send to Yamaha .
BIg big shame on them how they handle this  :( for such a large company  :( >:(

S  >:(
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Gunnar Jonny on August 06, 2020, 01:34:59 PM
...... all my purchases( payed a lot for them) from the past  are gone on my account .

Same for me and probably others as too. My EU account is gone, and all history and purchases during the years after I bought T4 is gone as well. But my login deltails works at the US site, and most (except from the single style files) is downloadable for free.
Entertainer 2016 and Eurodance 2016 do still miss the Genos compatible files. Strange, because that's the very first two packs they converted and sold for Genos in 2017. 🤔 
Hopefully the EU site will be up and running again in not too long and lost data will be to find. 👍
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: EileenL on August 06, 2020, 03:36:51 PM
Well they did say the European site would take a month or so to get up and running properly. I think most people have managed to get there packs now from the American site.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: LaHawk on August 06, 2020, 03:43:03 PM
Still don't know why they needed a total revamp of the website, when all they had to do was change the now free prices to $0.00
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on August 06, 2020, 05:03:54 PM
If this infers you want to set velocities to precise values for multi sampling from Genos you can turn off Touch say for R1 then dial in the fixed velocity you want to apply for that sample/layer etc.
........ If it helps   :)
John

You absolutely misunderstood me there...   thats not what i meant..
I was talking of the dynamics in a synth voice, where you use the velocity parameter as a form of CC to change  your sound.... a good example is using it to drive the filter resonance, as the harder you hit the key, the further the filter opens (or closes)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Bachus on August 06, 2020, 05:08:25 PM
Still don't know why they needed a total revamp of their website, when all they had to do is change the now free prices to $0.00

Because of what they want to do with it in the future..

I understood they want to move the website to the US..
They are now adapting the US website for european currencies

I also understood from my German friends that Yamaha is cutting down the european department to just service, promotion and sales..  they are going to use 3rd party companies for developing sounds and styles..


This is just a tiny part of a massive opperation.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: kla4 on August 06, 2020, 07:15:59 PM
@Gunnar and @Arno,

The european order-database will be imported into the US one but that will take a little more time. Previous purchases are not 'lost'.   ;)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Christopher Fernandes on August 11, 2020, 07:47:13 AM
Still don't know why they needed a total revamp of the website, when all they had to do was change the now free prices to $0.00

It's their new design/brand refresh - Has to be consistent across all their products.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: g4wfw on September 02, 2020, 02:22:37 AM
Has anyone managed to download the Eurodance 2016 and Entertainer 2016 packs for T5 or Genos. When I try to download I am getting the older pre-2016 versions of the packs for T5 only, despite an email from Yamaha stating this issue had been fixed and should provide the correct 2016 versions for both T5 and Genos.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Gunnar Jonny on September 02, 2020, 06:28:30 AM
Has anyone managed to download the Eurodance 2016 and Entertainer 2016 packs for T5 or Genos. When I try to download I am getting the older pre-2016 versions of the packs for T5 only, despite an email from Yamaha stating this issue had been fixed and should provide the correct 2016 versions for both T5 and Genos.

Yes, those two packs and a couple of others is now updated and contains Genos version as well.
You have to place a new order and download from the new links provided in the 'Library'.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: Karlos on September 02, 2020, 09:59:05 AM
I downloaded Euro dance 2016 for Genos last night and it works fine, no issues so far.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: g4wfw on September 02, 2020, 11:54:43 AM
Thanks missed the re-order part and was downloading from my library as advised by Yamaha. I Have now re-ordered and this time have got the correct packs.
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: chopoland on September 28, 2020, 11:16:43 AM
Ask, gentlemen.

Is this legal?

I am only interested in Celtic and EuroDance for Tyros 5
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: ckobu on September 28, 2020, 12:23:12 PM
Everything is legal, go to the web and download the free Pack.

https://shop.usa.yamaha.com/en/euro-dance-2016-genos-tyros.html (https://shop.usa.yamaha.com/en/euro-dance-2016-genos-tyros.html)

https://shop.usa.yamaha.com/en/celtic.html (https://shop.usa.yamaha.com/en/celtic.html)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: DerekA on September 28, 2020, 05:15:43 PM
It's all 100% legal because Yamaha themselves have decided to offer the packs for free.

Nobody can quite work out *why* they decided to do it though, but we're grateful :)
Title: Re: Starting June 30, Yamaha Premium packs, expansions will be free
Post by: chopoland on September 29, 2020, 11:04:12 AM
Thank you.

Too bad can't edit the names. I would have liked to be able to adapt them to how they are written on the default workstation, by deleting spaces, initial numbers...