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Title: Style or loop that had old scratchy LP (record) sound?
Post by: jimlaing on May 21, 2020, 01:58:08 AM
Hi ..I seem to rememeber a Style (or multipage?) that had the sound of an old record - that is the "clicks and pops" of playing
an old record.  can't seem to find this on Genos .... anyone know how I might find or generate this sound on Genos
(other than sampling from a turntable playing a scratchy record?!  :)

Thanks,
Jim
Title: Re: Style or loop that had old scratchy LP (record) sound?
Post by: ton37 on May 21, 2020, 03:55:22 AM
Hi Jim, are you sure that it is a style? It could be a audiostyle. I think a audio linked multipad could do the trick. E,g. on freesound,org you could search for old gramophone wav or mp3. Jusy my 2 cents
Title: Re: Style or loop that had old scratchy LP (record) sound?
Post by: overover on May 21, 2020, 05:00:11 AM
Hi Jim,

I searched the "Drum/SFX Kit List" in the Genos Data List for the term "Vinyl" and found the drum instrument "Vinyl Noise": It"s in "DanceKit" on the note #26 (= D0). This is one octave below the standard Snare (which is on D1 in most Kits).

If you load the "DanceKit" in eg Right 1 and set "Upper Octave" to  -1 or  -2, you should be able to play that sound.


Hope this helps!

Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Style or loop that had old scratchy LP (record) sound?
Post by: Fred Smith on May 21, 2020, 05:15:43 AM
I remember it too, but I think it was a voice. In the XG effects folder?

Cheers,
Fred
Title: Re: Style or loop that had old scratchy LP (record) sound?
Post by: Joe H on May 21, 2020, 05:31:46 AM
I agree with Chris, it's a drum kit.

Joe H
Title: Re: Style or loop that had old scratchy LP (record) sound?
Post by: DerekA on May 21, 2020, 10:04:16 AM
Try the Break Kit
Title: Re: Style or loop that had old scratchy LP (record) sound?
Post by: ibrox2 on May 21, 2020, 12:39:17 PM
Hi Jim


I think the tyros 4and 5 have the scratchy record I will
Have a look and check my styles as I know I have it
Somewhere     Jim
Title: Re: Style or loop that had old scratchy LP (record) sound?
Post by: EileenL on May 21, 2020, 12:54:53 PM
Hi Jim it is an old IDC style called 20's Swing 78rpm. I can't share it because it is probably on Yamaha Music Soft site and therefore Copywrite.
Title: Re: Style or loop that had old scratchy LP (record) sound?
Post by: ibrox2 on May 21, 2020, 01:39:46 PM
Hi Eileen

I would say you are correct thanks for letting me know.  Jim
Title: Re: Style or loop that had old scratchy LP (record) sound?
Post by: overover on May 21, 2020, 05:12:34 PM
@jimlaing
Hi Jim,

please see also these two threads:

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,55289.msg431301.html#msg431301

https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,53633.msg417939.html#msg417939

The styles "AcousticRock" and "FunkPopRock" mentioned in these previous threads are also on Genos (in "Rock" and "Pop" style categories).

P.S.
You could create a (looped) MIDI Multi Pad with this sound "Vinyl Noise" (note D0 in DanceKit) if you want to use it regardless of a Style.


Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Style or loop that had old scratchy LP (record) sound?
Post by: jerryghr on May 21, 2020, 07:42:53 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cawjXG7nn8M

https://www.yamahamusicsoft.com/style-files/20sswing78rpm-14

Jerryghr
Title: Re: Style or loop that had old scratchy LP (record) sound?
Post by: overover on May 21, 2020, 08:25:01 PM
Hi all,

the Yamaha Style "20'sSwing78rpm" also uses the "Vinyl Noise" sound of the "DanceKit" (on Channel 9 / Rhy1).

If you look into the Style data, you can see that this sound (note "D0") is triggered every second measure with Velocity 92 (see attached picture).


Best regards,
Chris
Title: Re: Style or loop that had old scratchy LP (record) sound?
Post by: jimlaing on July 30, 2020, 11:53:36 PM
Thanks all for the various info and ideas!  I did find the 'scratchy record' sound in the Dance kit, as one person mentioned.  And yes, it was the 20s old 78rpm style that I was remembering.

In the end, I decided to sample the scratchy record sound from - a scratchy record!!  I had a turntable and a bunch of "not-very-important" records, so I sampled about 10 sec. from the start and end of a record, and had a decent example of "scratchy record" sound from that, for use in my project!  I just recorded from the turntable (didn't even worry about the RIAA EQ curve) to a digital recording device.

Thanks again all,
Jim
Title: Re: Style or loop that had old scratchy LP (record) sound?
Post by: overover on July 31, 2020, 12:09:44 AM
Hi Jim,

thanks for your detailed feedback! :)


Best regards,
Chris