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PSR Keyboards (11 Boards) => PSR-SX900/SX700/SX600 => Topic started by: Enildo on March 01, 2020, 01:36:01 PM
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Hello everybody!
I am opening this topic and I would like the opinion of all interested parties who want "possible" changes or updates to the SX900 / 700 system.
Here is my first suggestion:
I don’t know why yamaha didn’t put the active track “LEDs” in the “Mixer” function next to the track icon. When we are in "PAN / VOLUME" we see them, but when we are in other functions like Filter, EQ, Effect, or Chorus / Reverb, we have no way of knowing which tracks are active, to make a selection and apply changes.
Enildo
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In the Channel On / Off function, this is already the case.
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meanwhile a small "physical" modification. It bothered me not to see how the volume is positioned ...
Dear Yamaha, the notch there is , but if it is not visible to the naked eye, what sense does it make?
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Add foot pedal assignment for Live Control knob (copy current knob1 or knob2) so we can use Live Control with a foot pedal.
Joe H
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meanwhile a small "physical" modification. It bothered me not to see how the volume is positioned ...
Dear Yamaha, the notch there is , but if it is not visible to the naked eye, what sense does it make?
I had already done this with liquid paper too!
I also passed Live Controls and microfone volume.
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Yeah, a musician has to be creative ;), unfortunately. The Yammie designers should have empathized with users: all those black letters, numbers and markings on black buttons … mmm.. such a basic mistake... , not very smart thinkin' >:(
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Hello everyone, I still insist on the same topic:
correction of sound degradation in WAV / MP3 format, especially when using song files with the following functions: Vocal Cancellation, Time Stretch and Tone Change. I think these functions are unnecessary since they are not giving the expected result. I know that this has been discussed before and some people have suggested using external software on PC, but I simply do not agree since the above mentioned functions should work correctly, it is also an expensive keyboard to not be able to enjoy these functions. Hopefully this can be solved in an upcoming fimware update. regards. Hans
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There is another thing that I do not understand and is: why is a MIDI or Mp3 file activated or both when selecting any button of the register bank? since I have not checked / assigned any boxes corresponding to MIDI or AUDIO songs. It also happens that when I select a MIDI song, the right voices are turned off. what is this about? I would like to know if anyone else has had this problem. regards. Hans
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As a confused old guy with a new SX700, I think the biggest improvement for me would be better documentation. I swear it was written by a committee of blind men that thought they were designing a camel. As one of our Forum members said. Here's all the parts you need, now turn them into a car.
Thank heaven for Joe's work. It's keeping me out of the nuthouse. Most of what I find on the internet are many players showing their performance skills, but not providing much usable how-to information.
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One thing that should be fixed as soon as possible is this (already reported by another forum member, but I don't remember who ...):
Reading from usb in a folder containing a large number of files causes a block of the entire keyboard for a time proportional to the number of files. This event cannot be stopped in any way other than whit to shuting down the SX900. It would be appreciated the possibility to interrupt the reading process if it were possible or to have a warning on the screen that informs that you are about to upload at high number of files . Among other things, the keyboard remains locked and if a style is in play it is not possible to interrupt it ... >:(
PS:I have a tough learning curve for this new keyboard, my first one was over 30 years ago and it was a old Korg Wavestation Ex.
I'm starting out but little by little I'm getting my hand back, I will need a lot of time and a lot of exercise lol.
By mistake I uploaded a folder with over 3000 styles to usb and the SX900 didn't really like him. For 10 minutes she continued to load while remaining frozen on the stle I was playing and the only way to get out of it was to turn it off. I therefore tried to drastically reduce the number of files.
But, today I purchased a Samsung 64 Gb USB stik (the mini one) was recognized and formatted without problems. I tried to increase the no. of files for each folder, up to 2000 files the sx900 had no file management problems, at 3000 it warned me after a minute of loading that the number of files is excessive. But this time it did not go into a loop and it warned me therefore it depends on the quality and speed the reading / writing of the USB (this Samsung is 200x speed) for a perfect compatibility.
important I noticed that when accessing the usb of the keyboard the expansion/user led flashes, it is good practice to press exit for stopping the flashes before disconnecting the usb stik ...
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Hi Hans,
Are you using registrations you have set up yourself. If so did you make sure that the ticks in the memory section were unticked before saving. If you are using third party registrations then they may well have been set like this in which case alter them to how you want them and resave.
There is always an answer.
Vocal cancellation will only work correctly on recordings specially recorded for this purpose. The vocal has to be on a completely separate track to work correctly were as most commercial MPS files the vocal is mixed in with the instrumentals.
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My tip about buttons is to memorize what each button does, and than you can press it without reading the letter on it. That is how I do it due to low vision. I don't have to read on the buttons, just know where they are to hit them. Genos and Tyros is great because the light on the buttons are so bright. I wish that the PSRs had the same system with the whole button lit from the inside. However, I managed with my PSR-2100 for 14 years, with very small light and silver buttons on silver panel :)
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3rd foot pedal port.
White paint in ALL the places where there is a notch etc but can't see it.
Re-balancing the sounds on all styles that are poorly balanced
more to come shortly.....
Lee
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I hate having to make comparisons, but I have no choice. In August 2015 I bought a Korg PA600, and used Mp3 audio files, I could change the tone (+ 1 + 2 + 3-1-2-3) and the time without problems. There was never any degradation of sound. but I must clarify that although the PA600 shines in that part, its operating system is complex and not very intuitive when it comes to playing live,on that and as for the quality of the voices, Yamaha goes beyond. I know that Korg lovers will say that it is possible to edit a sound and even modify it completely through its oscillators, filters and effects, but it is too much work that you can save on Yamaha, since the voices are almost perfect than with a little touch up, can be molded to your liking. That is why the PA600 was only six months in my house, then I returned to Yamaha with the PSR-S970. I DO NOT mean by this that Korg is bad, I just feel more comfortable with the Yamaha operating system. regards. Hans
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I wish the whole buttons were lit too...BUT one BIG negative to me is if you are playing more quietly (during quiet passages) like in some songs I do ....when you hit those Tyros or Genos buttons you and your audience get that click noise from the button push. So I don't want that to get lit buttons. It is loud enough to be intrusive! Everybody doesn't always play loud music, Ha, Ha...
Oh, this happens between section of songs to when there is a pause in playing.....
I hope Yamaha changes that on next models...but SX-900 would be nice to light all the button.
Lee
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Hasn’t Yamaha been careless I their decision to incorporate these noisy glass marbles as buttons.
Did they buy a job lot of 1,000’s and trying to use them up wherever they can.
I have Roland, Ketron and Korg Keyboards. They all have quiet buttons.
I gig first 2 hours before the main band, I am back my home by 11pm when I go through anything I need to edit more or rehearse more. When I had a Tyros my children used to complain in the next bedroom of the clicking noise and even my next door neighbour in the semi next door did ask what the clicking noise was late at night.
I sold the Tyros and never went for nothing more than a PSR after that, now SX900.
Does not make any sense, and they show the Genos in a recording studio.
Pino
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As a confused old guy with a new SX700, I think the biggest improvement for me would be better documentation. I swear it was written by a committee of blind men that thought they were designing a camel. As one of our Forum members said. Here's all the parts you need, now turn them into a car.
Thank heaven for Joe's work. It's keeping me out of the nuthouse. Most of what I find on the internet are many players showing their performance skills, but not providing much usable how-to information.
LOL ... I couldn't agree with you more. And the more I read the manual the more confuse I get. Now I find out that there are two manuals for the PSR's : An owners manual and a reference manual, which I downloaded but didn't help!
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I have discovered another aspect that can be improved to optimize the workflow in the SX900 and it is as follows:
In song playback / recording mode. add the forward or backward function to any part of it, through the data wheel (Dial) it is much more practical, when looking for a specific part a MIDI and / or AUDIO file.
I hope that Yamaha will consider this request as well as the previous ones for an upcoming fimware update. regards. Hans
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I have discovered another aspect that can be improved to optimize the workflow in the SX900 and it is as follows:
In song playback / recording mode. add the forward or backward function to any part of it, through the data wheel (Dial) it is much more practical, when looking for a specific part a MIDI and / or AUDIO file.
I hope that Yamaha will consider this request as well as the previous ones for an upcoming fimware update. regards. Hans
Good observation Hans! I didn't know it had this flaw, it would be very good for the yamaha to make this repair.
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Hello Enildo, this is annoying because sometimes the forward and backward buttons are passed from one song to another, and time is wasted looking for the exact point of the song. regards. Hans
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Another aspect to correct is: the change from one sound to another, when a style is being played and passed from one variation to another. The transition is quite annoying to the ear. It is heard as a kind of strong blow when moving from one instrument to another, especially when it is necessary to play a bit longer notes in the melody, and proceed to change the instrument. This is more than everything when playing live. regards. Hans
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Hans, yes that is a big issue...I'l told very hard to fix....but all can be done with todays technology...Yamaha just has to step up to it.
Lee
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LOL, yes the buttons on the Tyros click loudly😀
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Why not do your registration changes with the foot switches as this is silent.
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I'm not liking the new system of seeing letters on the SX900. In the s970 / 75 they had the standard size of 15 lines X 59 characters (one of the options),
which was very good, and the SX900 doesn't have it. In SX, when it’s not too small, it’s too big. Please yamaha, update this.
Other sizes could be created as long as the old ones were preserved.
It is very annoying for users, who make the letters to use in a certain size, having to change everything with each new keyboard model launched.
Enildo
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Another important question:
Why to add one thing, it is necessary to remove another?
We have two USB outputs, but the video output has been sacrificed.
Wouldn't it be okay to have the two USB outputs + HDMI output?
Or at least leave the old VGA?
If we need to use a monitor now it is necessary to buy an adapter.
I did not agree, with this attitude of the company.
Enildo
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Hello Guys, something very strange is happening to me, and it is the following: sometimes when I am in a register bank and select any style of factory, some voices of the right hand are lost, and the volumes in the mixer are not visualized . I don't know why the volume reference in the mixer is lost, in this case I turn off the keyboard and turn it on again, and I choose any random style and then I can see the volumes of everything in the mixer. Is there anyone else who has happened this ?. regards. Hans
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Hello Guys, something very strange is happening to me, and it is the following: sometimes when I am in a register bank and select any style of factory, some voices of the right hand are lost, and the volumes in the mixer are not visualized . I don't know why the volume reference in the mixer is lost, in this case I turn off the keyboard and turn it on again, and I choose any random style and then I can see the volumes of everything in the mixer. Is there anyone else who has happened this ?. regards. Hans
Hello for all,
What is happening to me, in some situations, is that the indicator lights of the active trails are off, even though there is something playing there.
I have to go out and come back to see them lit again.
Yamaha needs to fix these small bugs.
Enildo
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Hi Enildo, thanks for the correction. I really didn't know how to express it better. A hug my friend. Hans
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I put a red, stick on dot on the On/Off switch as that is difficult to see in low lighting.
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As the usb port is so difficult to access (my sx900 is up against a wall) I permanently keep a small usb extension plug, draped over the keyboard. Works fine but is a bit ugly.
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Hello everybody!
Add one more to the list:
In the "Audio Link Multi Pad" function, when we select the "Audio Level", the volume changes immediately.
It would be good to first select and then, on the second touch, make the changes.
As it is a very small space, first it has to be selected and then the dial wheel is used.
This is already the case with the other volumes, I think it is a forgetting of the yamaha.
Enlldo
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I also wanted, even though I know it is no longer possible, to decrease the size of the icons for the voices on the home screen,
and to increase the size of the icons for Registration Memory, Vocal Harmony, MIDI and Audio.
They were very small, making it difficult for people who do not see very well to read.
Or at least to increase the font size.
Enlldo
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Hello everybody!
I have the following problem: I have several drum kits and some kits cannot be seen in Drum Setup. In the s975 all kits were shown normally.
Does anyone have the same problem?
I hope Yamaha solves this!
Enildo
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Hi Enildo,
I caught the same bug as well.
If you use the plus/minus buttons and scroll the kits one by one you will miss some.
One way to overcome it is to turn fast the wheel instead of the buttons.
At least it worked on my kbd.
Regards
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Another flaw:
When a Registration Memory is saved, it is not possible to use the buttons + or - to switch from one registration to another, it is locked until you touch the screen,
and change by selecting another Registration manually.
Make a test, change some details in your Registration M., save and try to change to another registration using the "Regist Bank Select" "+ or -" buttons, and you will see the defect.
Enildo
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Hi Enildo,
I caught the same bug as well.
If you use the plus/minus buttons and scroll the kits one by one you will miss some.
One way to overcome it is to turn fast the wheel instead of the buttons.
At least it worked on my kbd.
Regards
I tried to do what you said, but in my case it didn't work.
The interesting thing is that if I change to a kit that is installed in the "Expansion" folder, using the Mixer / Eq, it shows in the Drum / Setup, and when I change to the next one, when I try to go back, it disappears.
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My only real gripe with Genos and SX OS is just -
When you exit/move a step back from say an individual style or reg file. The folder is no longer highlighted as it is on Tyros and PSR
You just get the folder list ...i forget sometimes which style genre / reg folder i was in and you have to re-select it again to look at maybe another file in the same folder/Style genre
Ok ...you get some indication of which folder your in ( bottom left of screen )
Nobody else seems to have noticed this or thinks its a problem but i really do miss this simple function
Keith
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If you have drum kits saved as expansion packs then you have to access them via the expansion button and use from there. You can save them to styles and then to registrations.
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I would like to ask a question:
Aren't we going to have more updates on the SX900 / 700?
Genos has had several firmware updates.
Some software failures have already been shown in the new models, SX900 / 700, here in the forum and we know that this forum is a great tool for Yamaha to improve its equipment and software.
We have already had several requests from important members of this forum resolved. I'm asking because it's been a while since we have any updates for these models.
I also know that the company must wait for a while to fix all the defects at once, as it cannot release a fix every week.
My greetings and may God bless you all!
Enildo
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If you have drum kits saved as expansion packs then you have to access them via the expansion button and use from there. You can save them to styles and then to registrations.
Hello Eileen,
Yes, you can use an internal kit by selecting in the Mixer / Eq or selecting from within the "Style Creator" itself, the problem is that when using the "Drum Setup",
to change only one of the drum parts, the kit disappears.
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I wonder if Yamaha will apply the same Genos update policy.
IMHO they will, why not. :)
Time will tell.
Wait and see.
Babette
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What I would like improved is to be able to increase the volume of the fixed bass sound in the acmp on SX900 i.e when finishing a piece of music I don’t generally use endings & when I hit a full or two fingered chord eg bottom C & G you can hardly hear the bass note under the string sound compared to the Tyros range which is a nice round bass sound.I don’t want to increase the bass in the mixer as then everything is increased.Why is there a fixed bass/root note that you cannot increase or decrease???
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Hi Guys, going back to the audio playback part, I have noticed that when I am in a specific part of a song such as the chorus and I want to return to the beginning, I press the two buttons (forward + backward) but this sends me to the previous song. In my previous S975, I could go back to the beginning of the song by pressing these two buttons. I hope Yamaha that you fix this bug, and add this feature to the data wheel (Dial) in the search, playback and recording mode for songs and styles. regards. Hans
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Hello everybody!
Guys, I see that yamaha has released an update for Genos ( https://www.psrtutorial.com/forum/index.php/topic,54773.0/topicseen.html ), where some of our claims, such as font size, in the text viewer, drum voices that disappear in the Drum Setup, the indicator lamps of the style tracks, and other problems , have been resolved. I hope this update will also come to the SX line.
The text viewer is very important to me, because I built my repertoire on top of a pattern and this cannot be changing from one keyboard release to another, because it messes up everything. They may offer more options, but the old size settings remain.
Drum setup is also a great fix, as some personal drum kits are being hidden.
Let's wait for our SX!
Enildo
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My Top 3
1. Styles
Alphabetical order option
Move ALL Country styles under one category, lots of room in "World"
2. Utility/Parameter Lock
Add more options (including locking in user Live Control settings)
3. Bluetooth
Two way connection. (Imagine being able to play your keyboard to a Sonos, Bose, etc. Bluetooth speaker system)
All that being said, many of the improvements mentioned, including my own, will probably not happen in an upgrade. Many are hardware related, and not possible for Yamaha to implement. Think of the SX-900 as a computer, you can only do so much in improvements , without physically altering the mechanics.
However, like a computer, many software related improvements are possible. We'll see what upgrades Yamaha chooses, hopefully your request is included.
In the meantime, we are all stuck at home, so for me, I'm enjoying my SX-900, as is...a fun keyboard
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Hi Larry - I agree
Not sure if you read but somebody a while back did post about maybe re-saving factory styles to user or a pendrive in alphabetical order ... not sure if that would work ...plus I suppose you could add your own entries and avoid the factory listings and create your own genre folders. A numbering system might also help as was done with MFD records as a prefix.
I dont see that adding more functions to parameter lock would be such a big issue, given the feature already exists for some things... but then I am no expert.
It is so easy on other brands to assign to Global .... no names mentioned here .. i dont want to get in trouble....lol
As far as Bluetooth is concerned i had earphone buds for Xmas and found ...no you cant export audio.. I gather the reason is the time delay ( latency) hence audio out is not an option. I imagine there is little that can be done about this where you actually strike a note ....Ie a keyboard and want it to sound right away. I imagine it's not only Yamaha who have an issue with this.
I dont have a problem playing my MP3 and phone etc... 'importing' using Bluetooth though of course.
Rikki kindly posted up SX conversions on the PSR tutorial page ....which actually contain a Country dedicated cat ..
maybe you and others have not seen it ....some of these are really good. you will find the zipped files lower down on this page in the link below.
https://psrtutorial.com/sty/yamaha/psr-sx900.html
Regards - Keith
ps...another good option would be to have sub folders available in favourites or maybe more than just one dump. ie. we have yellow flags at the moment but maybe using a couple of other colours would be handy for cats.or groups within favs.
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Thank you keith. I hadn't noticed Rikki had posted these.
Thank you Rikki for all of your hard work.
Bernie
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Good afternoon.
What I miss the most in my psr sx900 regarding the Tyros is that it allows you to make drum kit with the internal samples and combine them with the external ones.
I was satisfied only gentlemen of YAMAHA that kit drum could be made with the internal samples. Cheers
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My wish list is: 1. Assign the rewind or fast-forward function to the data wheel, in song recording, editing and playback mode.
2. troubleshoot problems, when changing sound from one variation to another, or from one register to another
3. possibility to add some SA2 voices such as: Romance clarinet, Jazz Violin, Celtic Violin, Ballad Soprano Sax, Pop Soprano Sax, Ballad Clarinet, Pop Bassoon, IrishPipesAir, IrishPipesDance, and some string sounds like: KinoStrings, Kino StringsNatural, and KinoStringsTensión.
Hopefully Yamaha can give us this gift in the next fimware update. ;) Cheers. Hans
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Good points Hans ... Perhaps we should make a list of the top 10 and do a poll on here . as i do think they will be doing a firmware update, as they do for 'recent' new models ...and might listen to our views......not that they mean much....
Keith
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Hi Keith, you are right. As for the SA2 voices, I think (if they wanted to) that they could implement them in the new fimware. so we could have a small piece of the benefits of the flagship. I do NOT want to mention brands, but in some, the mid-range gets some of the benefits of the TOTL keyboard. Hans
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I imagine they think we have 'enough' of Genos in its little brother, as far as I am aware it must have taken quite a blow in sales since the SX was launched .... I for one don't regret moving back down to an SX from Genos for a lot of reasons.
So i don't recon they will give us much, if ANYTHING other than fix a few bugs. They will be too concerned about damaging possible Genos sales any further IMHO.
I suppose some of the ideas from the forum could easily be added and it would be great if they were.
Keith
ps..and to say WHY i downgraded in order of importance to me
Size
Weight/portability/space at home
Same OS as Genos with -
Touch screen still available
61 note version
On-board speakers
Far better compact control layout
Cost
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Just wondering: might anyone know how well the SX series is doing relative to all the previous PSR series? Has the SX 900 made a dent in the Genos market? Have SX sales caught the attention of Yamaha? No regrets, here, moving from the Tyros to the SX 900. I’d love it if the SX series, i.e., a 61-note arranger with speakers, was improved dramatically and elevated to “flagship” status for the company. Dream on.
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I really dont know why they did not do a 61 Genos Larry I would have bought one in a heartbeat.
The layout would have to have been compacted which would have been much better for me.
In my view Genos is all over the darn place, why, with all that space!! I tend to use real controls on the fly and use the screen for set up and 'between' actually playing, so all the reaching for me on Genos was a deal breaker.
I just love the layout on SX especially the assignables - super position... not so on Genos ...why??
Talking to my dealer friends they are VERY pleased with sales - especially moves from other regular brand users who wanted to see a touch screen being made available in a mid range arranger by Yamaha . This can be seen more in the 700 being at a lower price point.
Keith
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Hello friends. I considered buying the XS900 as a portable keyboard when it came to our store in January. I already have a Genos, but it is rather big to play out of the house with! I like the XS, and it has the same OS as Genos, making it easy. But I waited too long, so it was sold. Then I went to the shop to get some other stuff, and I was told that the man that purchased the XS900 had asked if he could take it back to the store and buy the Genos instead. That was all right with the store, but he has not been there yet. the virus makes us cereful with our money. The XS900 is a wonderful keyboard, but I would not trade it for a Tyros or Genos!
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The Keybed.
The new FSB ? Keybed is a total stepdown from previous generation of psr-s series.
Psr-s had perfect Keybed.
But this new Keybed in psr-sx feels very cheap, and is not as "playable".
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Hello Kampot, I do NOT agree with what you say. I personally have had S950, S970, and S975, and I must say that the key bed feel was very regular and loud. I feel that Yamaha has taken a very important step in this regard in the SX series. in a way it forces you to have a better fingering. Obviously there are errors to correct, but this is not the case. Greethings. Hans
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The Keybed.
The new FSB ? Keybed is a total stepdown from previous generation of psr-s series.
Psr-s had perfect Keybed.
But this new Keybed in psr-sx feels very cheap, and is not as "playable".
On this particular subject I disagree, but 'feelings' are soo personal ... ;) What I meant, if something 'feels' good oe bad, it does not mean that it IS good or bad ..
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Hello to all friends of the forum.
I hope everyone is well, despite these dark days.
I have an important thing that is not so serious, but that is kind of boring, and I want to hear your opinion.
For those who have old Registration Memory, regarding the voices (in the past models -> R1 R2) and want to add the R3 voice,
always have to activate Touch Reponse (as it is unchecked) and decrease the Volume of Voice R3, which is in 127.
I would like this to come standardized with the Touch Response checked and the volume at 100.
I hope this can be fixed in an upcoming update.
Enildo
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Because you are using older registrations on a newer keyboard that now has three right hand voices the keyboard is defaulting to this setting because it was not needed in previous PSR keyboards so there was no place for it.
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Because you are using older registrations on a newer keyboard that now has three right hand voices the keyboard is defaulting to this setting because it was not needed in previous PSR keyboards so there was no place for it.
Yes I know. But why not come with the Touch Response marked and the voice at volume 100? It is the standard.
Can't yamaha fix this?
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Yes I know. But why not come with the Touch Response marked and the voice at volume 100? It is the standard.
Can't yamaha fix this?
How would they fix it?
Your registration was created on a different keyboard. It was created with a volume of 127 in R3. Yes, I know that was a stupid value to set, but it’s done.
How does your new keyboard know that you don’t want 127 as the volume? As far as it knows, you do, because that’s what’s in the registration. Same with initial touch.
A better idea is for you to fix your registrations with Murray Best's YRM. You can do them all in one batch. Then you don’t have to wait for Yamaha.
Cheers,
Fred
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How would they fix it?
Your registration was created on a different keyboard. It was created with a volume of 127 in R3. Yes, I know that was a stupid value to set, but it’s done.
How does your new keyboard know that you don’t want 127 as the volume? As far as it knows, you do, because that’s what’s in the registration. Same with initial touch.
A better idea is for you to fix your registrations with Murray Best's YRM. You can do them all in one batch. Then you don’t have to wait for Yamaha.
Cheers,
Fred
Okay, are you telling me that when I created my records on the s975, which only had the R1 R2, the R3 was created automatically (with the Touch unchecked and the volume at 127)?
I think the R3 was added by yamaha with these parameters and it has nothing to do with the creation in the previous models, as they did not exist.
About the repairs, for me, I'm already doing it manually when I need to, but we have to think about the other thousands of people who are still going to buy the SX models.
Yes, I hope yamaha will fix this, if possible.
Cheers,
Enildo
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How about a few choices of keyboard color & 61 or 76 keys for sx900/sx700?....Black, Red, Silver, etc?
also an ONBOARD RED LIGHT to show that the Vocal Harmony is On or Off ?
XLR Mic input .
Playlist to include separate songs with all perimeters saved, Mp3s, Smf also in one list
and of course a larger Tilt up display
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How about a few choices of keyboard color & 61 or 76 keys for sx900/sx700?....Black, Red, Silver, etc?
also an ONBOARD RED LIGHT to show that the Vocal Harmony is On or Off ?
XLR Mic input .
Playlist to include separate songs with all perimeters saved, Mp3s, Smf also in one list
and of course a larger Tilt up display
If, and only if, Yamaha does this once (upon a time), then at first we will see the launch of the Genos2 . But nevertheless, one is allowed to dream on ;)
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also an ONBOARD RED LIGHT to show that the Vocal Harmony is On or Off ?
I've been saying this for a long time.
How about if we had at least one indicator light on the Display?
Similar to the image below.
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Okay, are you telling me that when I created my records on the s975, which only had the R1 R2, the R3 was created automatically (with the Touch unchecked and the volume at 127)?
I think the R3 was added by yamaha with these parameters and it has nothing to do with the creation in the previous models, as they did not exist.
About the repairs, for me, I'm already doing it manually when I need to, but we have to think about the other thousands of people who are still going to buy the SX models.
Yes, I hope yamaha will fix this, if possible.
My apologies, Enildo. My mistake. I thought you wanted your problem solved. Sorry to interrupt your rant.
Cheers,
Fred
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My apologies, Enildo. My mistake. I thought you wanted your problem solved. Sorry to interrupt your rant.
Cheers,
Fred
Hi Fred
I can not understand you. Are you really apologizing or are you being sarcastic?
I think the forum is a place where people have different points of view and I don't know why the anger.
I really want to thank you for your help, I know that you are an active participant in the forum and help a lot of people and have even helped me.
I want to continue to count on your support, but we don't need to fight with words, ironies or sarcasm. It doesn't help at all.
I am not the owner of reason, I may be wrong, but besides solving a problem I don't see where the harm is in asking or giving my opinion.
Get that hate out of your heart, it doesn't do you good.
If you believed in God, I ask God to bless you, really, and I'm sorry for any rudeness on my part.
Cheers,
Enildo
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Hello Enildo, I also happened with my records of my previous S975. Rh3 is too strong. I agree with you that this "empty" voice can be adjusted to a standard volume of 100. Both this and the aforementioned errors can be fixed with a fimware update. Now my opinion is, this forum is wonderful and we can express our opinion or concern regarding our organizing keyboards, and I believe that an atmosphere of cordiality and support should be maintained as much as possible at all times, understanding that each member have your needs. I also believe that Yamaha is currently working on an upcoming fimware update, where possibly the most relevant problems will be solved. Cheers. Hans
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Using Fred's tip, I tried to make changes faster with Murray Best's Registration Memory Editing Program.
It is a very good program, but I have not found the new SX models.
I tried with Tyros or Genos and managed to solve the R3 volume by adding voice 3 to the program, but I didn't see the "Initial Touch" option.
Can anyone help me find this function?
Greetings,
Enildo
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Hi Enildo for YRM, Murray Best have made an special upload for the SX900 link at the end of the page, all the best Patrick
https://psrtutorial.com/util/best.html
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Hi Enildo for YRM, Murray Best have made an special upload for the SX900 link at the end of the page, all the best Patrick
https://psrtutorial.com/util/best.html
Thank you very much Patrick, it worked perfectly.
You can tell if the program has the function, "initial Touch" (On / Off).
According to Fred it exists, but I haven't found it.
Cheers,
Enido
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Hi Enildo,
when you are in "Registration Edit" window (after double-clicking a certain Registration ( 1 - 8 ), switch the drop-down box "Touch" (to the right of "Upper Octave") to "On". Then click on "Assign" button right beside. Here you can assign "Touch" to the desired Voices (R1, R2, R3, Left).
Best regards,
Chris
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Hi Enildo,
when you are in "Registration Edit" window (after double-clicking a certain Registration ( 1 - 8 ), switch the drop-down box "Touch" (to the right of "Upper Octave") to "On". Then click on "Assign" button right beside. Here you can assign "Touch" to the desired Voices (R1, R2, R3, Left).
Best regards,
Chris
Thanks Chris, now I see! Hehehe
This Murray program makes it a lot easier.
Still, if there was a way for yamaha to fix this in the next firmware it would be great. Because even with the program the work is done one by one. Sorry to insist on this rhetoric, but this is the purpose of this post, requesting that yamaha carry out the repairs, which are possible in the next system update.
Thanks to all for your help!
Enildo
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I have discovered another aspect that can be improved to optimize the workflow in the SX900 and it is as follows:
In song playback / recording mode. add the forward or backward function to any part of it, through the data wheel (Dial) it is much more practical, when looking for a specific part a MIDI and / or AUDIO file.
I hope that Yamaha will consider this request as well as the previous ones for an upcoming fimware update. regards. Hans
Hi Hans!
I found that you can press and hold the forward and backward buttons of Song or Audio play a little, you can use the dial button to fast forward or rewind.
It is even possible to use the Dec and Inc buttons below the Dial.
Enildo
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Hello Enildo, what you say is valid for the song playback mode, but if you go to the main page of the song recorder, and try to rewind or fast forward with the dial wheel, this does not work, since it always you must access to the screen and touchin the virtual buttons. This was not the case with S975. Cheers. Hans
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Hello Enildo, what you say is valid for the song playback mode, but if you go to the main page of the song recorder, and try to rewind or fast forward with the dial wheel, this does not work, since it always you must access to the screen and touchin the virtual buttons. This was not the case with S975. Cheers. Hans
Exact. I discovered this other way and I'm sharing it here.
Greetings,
Enildo
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Hi,
Short answer is EVERYTHING.
Looking back to T4 - Voice creator; color contrast.
Looking to Genos: Sound (SArt2); key-bed; size of screen...)
Looking to competitor too many function to remember here.
Long space in front to lunch many PSR series with <news>.
The perfect keyboard is made to don't have next generation (so, to die).
At this moment the solidity of case is not in my list.
Regards
Mihai
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Here's my initial thoughts:
1) FAVOURITES: When you allocate a new "favourite" voice or style - as soon as it works you automatically get reset to page 1 of that category... very annoying why cant it just keep you on the current page you were on?
2) PIANO VOICE: I didn't by my PSR SX 900 for the piano voice as I have other keyboards for that BUT they really need to upgrade the expressiveness of the piano voice - the SA Concert Grand is rubbish for current day and age... seriously... it needs more samples in the dynamic velocity range of 0-127.
3) STEP EDITOR (Style and Midi Song): We should be able to do a "select all" instead of having to do "Multi Select" and keep pressing (or hold) the arrow buttons to scroll down and select more than one event.
4) STEP EDITOR (style and Midi Song): We should be able to do a granular "select all" where we can select all of a certain note only for example: I want to select every note that is above the C0 range or only all C0 notes to make edits to them such as volume or velocity... currently you need to manually press each one individually as you scroll down the list of events
5) Drum Edit: any of the drum track channels in a Midi song should be fully editable down to each individual sample being played in the drum track (individual note volume, velocity, reverb, re voicing etc) (without manually scrolling and doing it through the step editor) ... Roland has had this in their style and song "make up tools" for about 20+ years?
6) Another missing feature: Octave shift of the bass note being played when Accomp is on but the style is off (and editability of the bass note - re voicing?) - also being able to leave it on auto hold as well as the pad voice being played that is following your chord progression while the style is off...
7) CUSTOM DRUM KIT CREATOR PLEASE.........................
The PSR SX 900 has "work station" functionality but when compared to level of workstation functionality with other branded boards it doesnt go as deep... the above tweaks would definitely take it right up there...
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Hi Nick G, good points. I would add something else to the event editor in the Song Creator, the possibility to Copy Multiple Channels at once (4 or 6 as minimum) with their corresponding events to a part of a musical arrangement (Intro, verse or chorus) and Paste them to another part of it. for example, if the Intro is equal to the beginning to the middle, instead of being recorded again part by part, the required parts are simply copied, and pasted at the exact point where it requires it to be pasted. this would save a lot of time. Logically I am talking about own composition and arrangements, which do NOT include the styles and arrangements that are on the keyboard, since if it were that way, the Intro or Varation of the style itself, at a certain point, would be recorded again, but Obviously it is to record again, and not Copy and Paste. Greetings. Hans
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Will we ever be able to have this function.
Sometimes we want to hear something off, or rehearse a little in public, and it would be great if we could only hear the keyboard on the headphone and the main outputs (L & R) are disabled.
Enildo
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Hi
See page 128 of the reference manual:
"Determines how the sound is output to the speaker of this instrument.
• Headphone Switch: Speaker sounds normally, but is cut off when headphones are inserted
to the [PHONES] jack.
• On: Speaker sound is always on.
• Off: Speaker sound is off. You can only hear the instrument sound via the headphones or an
external device connected to the AUX OUT jacks."
Regards
Ed
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Hi
See page 128 of the reference manual:
"Determines how the sound is output to the speaker of this instrument.
• Headphone Switch: Speaker sounds normally, but is cut off when headphones are inserted
to the [PHONES] jack.
• On: Speaker sound is always on.
• Off: Speaker sound is off. You can only hear the instrument sound via the headphones or an
external device connected to the AUX OUT jacks."
Regards
Ed
Thanks for the answer ED.
Yes, I know how the "speaker" function on the keyboard works, but I wish we had the option of listening to the instrument only through headphones, and both the keyboard speakers and all the outputs (L&R and Sub) were disabled. When we are at a live show, we sometimes have to hear the speed of a style, the sound or a mix of a voice, a vignette, or do a little rehearsal before playing, and it would be very important that only we heard the instrument and the public is not. Even the keyboard connected to external speakers, the sound could only be heard on the headphones.
I corrected my post to try to improve what I mean.
Enildo
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2. troubleshoot problems, when changing sound from one variation to another, or from one register to another
If I'm not wrong, I think what you're talking about here is that really bad transition that happens when you quickly change a voice when playing? That's actually something called "Seamless Sound Switching (SSS)" (found on Yamaha's MODX and Montage synthesizers) that lets you change voices seamlessly without any cut-off in envelope or effects.
It's not even there in the $5000 Genos... which for that price is a bit of a shame. :(
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Christopher,
I agree completely. We have had an issue with many features that were present on the Motif and never implemented on the arranger. One of the the things that was finally upgraded was the capacity of the on-board sequencer from 400k to 3MB.
From the Montage User Manual:
“Seamless Sound Switching” is a feature that lets you switch Performances smoothly without any notes being cut off. The SSS
feature is available for all Preset Bank Performances in this instrument. However, SSS is available only for the Performance
containing Parts 1 – 8, not for the Performance with using Parts 9– 16
This could easily be implemented on the arranger if there were technical sharing between the synth group and the arranger group at Yamaha.
Joe H
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If I'm not wrong, I think what you're talking about here is that really bad transition that happens when you quickly change a voice when playing? That's actually something called "Seamless Sound Switching (SSS)" (found on Yamaha's MODX and Montage synthesizers) that lets you change voices seamlessly without any cut-off in envelope or effects.
It's not even there in the $5000 Genos... which for that price is a bit of a shame. :(
Hi Christopher, yes, that's exactly what I mean. This is quite annoying, especially when played live. Hans
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Christopher,
I agree completely. We have had an issue with many features that were present on the Motif and never implemented on the arranger. One of the the things that was finally upgraded was the capacity of the on-board sequencer from 400k to 3MB.
From the Montage User Manual:
“Seamless Sound Switching” is a feature that lets you switch Performances smoothly without any notes being cut off. The SSS
feature is available for all Preset Bank Performances in this instrument. However, SSS is available only for the Performance
containing Parts 1 – 8, not for the Performance with using Parts 9– 16
This could easily be implemented on the arranger if there were technical sharing between the synth group and the arranger group at Yamaha.
Joe H
Hi Joe, you are right. it would be interesting if yamaha implements this function in the arrangers line. you have to wait and see. Hans
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Hi guys, there is something I experience especially when I use a style, (either from the factory or from an expansion) to record a MIDI song, and it is the following: while I'm recording, it sounds great, but when you play the recording you hear cut the notes of some instruments, especially when you have to do a chord progression. when this happens, I go back to record the song several times with the same style, thinking that maybe it is my bad fingering, trying to make the most precise changes, but again I get the same result. As if that were not enough, I have problems when I use the sync / stop function during recording to introduce some cuts. for example: if the measurement is 4/4, and I want to record 4 quarter notes, (synchronized chords) the keyboard only recognizes 2, the rest remain silent. on several occasions I have had to record the cuts one by one on other channels, thus using more channels than necessary, since it should be done directly from the style. honestly this is very annoying as it significantly slows down the workflow. I want to add that this problem comes from the S900, and today with the SX900 it has NOT yet been solved. I hope Yamaha takes note of these bugs and can correct them in an upcoming fimware update. Hans
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Hans,
What you describe sounds like notes are getting truncated. This happens when you exceed the total polyphony or the reserved number of notes assigned to each channel. I don't know if this info is in the Data List Book. You say this happened on your PSR 900 as well. I don't recall experiencing this with my S910 or S970.
If others have experienced this then it should be reported to Yamaha.
Joe H
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Hi Joe H, this time I am using a default style and For the right hand I only used a trumpet. I say that I cannot have exceeded the polyphony, since the most used was the style, the trumpet was used only for Intros (Initial, Intermediate) and some answers, since it is a MIDI song, as an accompaniment for a singer, reason why it does not take many instruments, nor melodic guide.
I don't know if this has to do with Mega Voices.
but the problem or error lies in the chord changes, already recorded in Song Creator.
This is not heard when the song is being recorded. is heard when the previously recorded song is played. hope there is a solution for this. Hans
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I'm not liking the new system of seeing letters on the SX900. In the s970 / 75 they had the standard size of 15 lines X 59 characters (one of the options),
which was very good, and the SX900 doesn't have it. In SX, when it’s not too small, it’s too big. Please yamaha, update this.
Other sizes could be created as long as the old ones were preserved.
It is very annoying for users, who make the letters to use in a certain size, having to change everything with each new keyboard model launched.
Enildo
Hello everybody
I am very happy with the improvements in the SX900 Firmware update (v1.04).
One of the problems claimed here, the font size, has been solved. My thanks to yamaha.
I am happy that other problems have also been fixed, such as the indicator lamps (MIDI indicator) on the Mixer display.
I don't want to be ungrateful, but there are still other details to be solved.
A hug to everyone!
Enildo
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Hello for all,
What is happening to me, in some situations, is that the indicator lights of the active trails are off, even though there is something playing there.
I have to go out and come back to see them lit again.
Yamaha needs to fix these small bugs.
Enildo
Fixed a problem in which, under a certain situation, the indication lamps (MIDI indicator) on the Mixer display would not work.
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Hello everybody!
I have the following problem: I have several drum kits and some kits cannot be seen in Drum Setup. In the s975 all kits were shown normally.
Does anyone have the same problem?
I hope Yamaha solves this!
Enildo
Guys, about this problem, I did a study and realized that the SX900 shows a maximum of 72 drum kits.
If you have more than that, starting at 73, in a row, it will disappear when you use the Drum Setup function.
On my old s975, it was possible to see all the kits.
I hope that yamaha can see if this is a problem to be solved in the next firmware, or if it is a limitation of the SX that we have to load.
Enildo
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It wouldve been nice if the turkish pack was compatible, As can be seen in the link it is specificly for the genos and T5.
https://www.yamahamusicsoft.com/premium-packs-and-voices/turkish-genostyros
Unless im missing something and there is a version that is compatible (or if its possible to make it compatible), then even better :)
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And thats a terrific point you bring up enildo about not being to only use headphones and not out of the L and R outputs. Ive run into that issue at least one time too many. But does anybody know if its possibe to get the turkish pack for the sx900?
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It wouldve been nice if the turkish pack was compatible, As can be seen in the link it is specificly for the genos and T5.
https://www.yamahamusicsoft.com/premium-packs-and-voices/turkish-genostyros
Unless im missing something and there is a version that is compatible (or if its possible to make it compatible), then even better :)
... does anybody know if its possibe to get the turkish pack for the sx900?
Hi shuey,
you can buy the Turkish Pack for PSR-SX900 directly from the original manufacturer "Emomuzik". At the moment this product is even available at a very reasonable price: :)
>>> https://www.emomuzik.com/turkish-pack-psr
There are also some free Turkish Packs, for example on the site >>> https://www.piyanistset.com
https://www.piyanistset.com/yamaha-a3000-turkish-style-pack-free/671/
https://www.piyanistset.com/a3000-ilkay-yerli-turkish-factory-kit-yapimi-ritimler-styles-made-by-factory-kits/922/
https://www.piyanistset.com/yamaha-a-3000-dogus-oriental-super-sound-pack-ppf-buradan-bedava-indir-free-download-here/977/
https://www.piyanistset.com/yamaha-a3000-huseyin-set-ppf-styles-tyros-5-styles-free-download-here-buradan-bedava-indir/205/
Please click on "Yamaha Set" on this website and check the content for A3000, Tyros5, PSR-S970, PSR-S975, PSR-SX900 and Genos. You can use all of these Packs (.ppf format) in your SX900! The only thing is that the SX900 has "only" 1 GB of Expansion Wave Memory, but of course you can combine the Packs in YEM as desired (and deselect some content if needed).
You can also use Tyros3 and Tyros4 Expansion Voices (.uvn / .uvd format), and even Tyros2 Expansion Voices (when converted to .uvn / .uvd format before).
Hope this helps!
Best regards,
Chris
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Thank you!
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Do not buy the pack from Emomuzik, they give it to you in .cpf and won’t give you a new cpf
When you get a new keyboard, not even a discount. They have good styles etc.. but not worth
It (besided I personally had bad costumer experience)
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How can you find 3/4 beats in a group from the instrument bank?
In my previous instruments, this was possible with the help of MusicDatabase.
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Hi Pitio, if you mean styles with measures of 3/4. there are several in the Ballroom folder, and others in the World folder. I hope this helps. Hans
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Hi hans 1966!
On my old instrument, the Music Database made it easy to search for 3/4, 6/8, etc. beats.
this is not possible on the SX900. I want to see these at once, not search in separate groups.
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That is not possible, unfortunately.
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I always go through the styles when I get a new keyboard and select my favorite styles that I know I will use into a folder which I call My styles. On the new keyboards you can save them as favorites if you prefer.
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I do the same😀
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I thought of an idea for the next firmware update if its capable of doing this
My idea was to take care of 2 issues
Is to be able to mirror and control the touch screen from an iPad through bluetooth or evan wired
A. That would take away the need for an external screen output
B. That would make switching pages and using the screen a lot faster and accurate
Does this idea make sense?
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Yes... i might be wrong, but I do seem to remember with 'Music Finder' you could search and list by time signature to sort 3/4 from maybe 4/4 correct me if I am wrong - or was it just tempo?
Keith
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Give me five good reasons for upgrading from a PSR 975 to a sPSR XS 900! Is it worth the extra money?? All I see here are people wishing for more, not being satisfied with the SX900!! Come on, boys and gals: Is it that bad? Make me decide
!😀
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The SX 900 is a great little keyboard and is very nice just to sit down and play it. I much prefer it over my old PSR970 and it has much more punch volume wise.
Has a 4Gb user section so room for lots of Registrations, Styles, and Midi files if you use them. I would advise you save all recorded Audio file to USB as these can be quite large. Having two USB ports is certainly useful and 1Gb of flash memory for sample packs is great.
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Thanks Eileen! You sound very satisfied😀
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Give me five good reasons for upgrading from a PSR 975 to a sPSR XS 900! Is it worth the extra money?? All I see here are people wishing for more, not being satisfied with the SX900!! Come on, boys and gals: Is it that bad? Make me decide
!😀
It was the same with the Genos, Toril. Some people are never satisfied.
Cheers,
Fred
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Hello Toryl,
I am always satisfied with my Yamaha keyboards. I find out what is on them so I know what I am getting. It is stupid after you have bought it saying it should have this and it should have that. It is a musical keyboard and dose exactly what it is supposed to do. Really like mine just as it is.
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I don't believe it a question of owners' not being satisfied at all. One size will never fit everybody and if it was perfect Yamaha would never need to ever produce another new model or provide any software updates.
Just how someone can say they knew it was going to be 100% perfect before they bought it beggers belief. They are fine keyboards but that does not make them perfect in every respect. As an example, owners having to add 'Tippex' to see control knobs' placement is a clear oversight by the designers.
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I do not think anyone would say they know it will be a 100% perfect. I just did research into it before I bought it so knew what I was getting. Having had Yamaha organs and keyboards over the last 30 years I know what to expect and it is always first class including the after care. I know you will never satisfy everyone but at the end of the day this is a keyboard and for many of us dose what we want.
A really nice instrument tp play.
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I believe They should focus more on their boot malfunction since many owners now getting this error. even now people starting to post it on youtube too. If the Favorite style adding occurs boot failure means, totally fail the basics logic of the boot sequence.
There are many cases worldwide, only Yamaha does is replace the entire keyboard. No solution. some people have re-sale the keyboard with a big loss. They should include this on their next Frameware update 1.05 I suggest.
The coming November many of 1-year warranty will be finished. After that, if this happens, they will take nearly half of the keyboard price for the motherboard replacement.
>:( >:( >:(
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I think there is some noise between the various comments about what can be improved on the SX900 / SX700.
I think this post is mainly about what in a possible Firmware update still needs to be adjusted by Yamaha to ensure that the operating system is a technically 100% running machine. That's for what consumers are paying for and may expect due to Yamaha's marketing brochures.
In this case it is good to mention and share this in this forum, but do also mail your concerns to the Yamaha Company in your region or your dealer. That's the only effective way and after the warranty period, you can always try to hold Yamaha to account that you have already indicated it in time.
In my humble opinion, other comments have more to do about what could be improved on the successor to the SX series. Therefore, it might be more effective for someone to create a post in a f.e. 'SX900 Successors Whish List' under the heading 'The Next Yamaha Keyboard'
Just my 2 cents ...
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I know you hear me say this a lot but it is true that I have never had a problem with my SX900 and I had one of the first ones out. I do however make sure I switch it off correctly by setting it back to home page and holding down the off switch until I hear the little click. This we also do on Genos. It stops any problems which can occur with things locking up.
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Eileen, I never thought it was important to go to the home screen before powering off. Thanks for the tip!
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Yes Toryl it is never good to shut down with a programme you may have been using open.
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Yes I always power off correctly, but it i often think how 'auto power off' works ?? as it simply cuts out and switches off with a click. i do wonder if this could cause issues....maybe not.
Other than my issue which was sorted with a replacement of my SX ....I have NEVER had issues with any Yamaha arranger and have owned lots of different models over the years as well as playing on and owning many other makes.
I do think Yamaha are very good...Yes, it would be nice to have a hybrid of Yamaha ,Korg, Roland, technics and maybe Keytron. In my opinion....just taking the best features of each, but that just aint gonna happen ..... carry on dreaming .....lol
I really think they got it right this time with the SX range ....will be interesting to see what, if anything they come up with in this line next...
Keith
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the TEMPO
its only on the main page above the STYLE
which means i have to click on the tempo button when im in the mixer or channel or voice or any other page
its very different than KORG
it should be present all the time on the screen
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You can dedicate one of the assignable buttons to access+/- Tempo.
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My friends
As i have said before
the only way to see an actual change and a new update....
is to actually send them an email or calling them up and stating what you would like
supportreply@yamaha.com or YCASupport@yamaha.com https://usa.yamaha.com/support/contacts/form.html?page=product
Yamaha Customer Support
(714) 522-9011
Option 3
and they will only listen and actually make an update if enough people email or call in about it
i have been on the phone with a Yamaha keyboard representative for over an hour telling him about all these issues and he explained to me they only listen when there are enough complaints if there are only a couple of people complaining they won't pay attention to it