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Title: 1783 MB Voice Wave Size Limit In YEM?
Post by: KeyboardByBiggs on August 30, 2019, 12:22:49 PM

I don't suppose there's any way around this limit? I have only three packs that take up the whole thing.  :-\

Title: Re: 1783 MB Voice Wave Size Limit In YEM?
Post by: Snicker740 on August 30, 2019, 01:13:46 PM

Maybe Yamaha will release a major update in the future to expand memory for expansion packs. As korg did for Pa4x from 1.5Gb to 3Gb with only the firmware update.

Title: Re: 1783 MB Voice Wave Size Limit In YEM?
Post by: DerekA on August 30, 2019, 02:49:29 PM

Currently that's a fixed limit on Genos.

Title: Re: 1783 MB Voice Wave Size Limit In YEM?
Post by: valimaties on August 30, 2019, 04:38:37 PM

I don't think so.
This will be a next model feature ;)

Regards,
Vali

Title: Re: 1783 MB Voice Wave Size Limit In YEM?
Post by: metcam on September 06, 2019, 12:48:27 PM

Quote from: Snicker740 on August 30, 2019, 01:13:46 PM

Maybe Yamaha will release a major update in the future to expand memory for expansion packs. As korg did for Pa4x from 1.5Gb to 3Gb with only the firmware update.

I hope to..... we need it and also  more memory will increase sailing more EXPANSIONS packs for Yamaha


Regards

Title: Re: 1783 MB Voice Wave Size Limit In YEM?
Post by: EileenL on September 06, 2019, 01:51:46 PM

I find that with Genos voices being so good now I don't need to use many expansion packs. Yamaha packs are compressed and only use a small amount of memory so you can load quite a few.
  The third party packs which are now quite a lot do not do this and will and will use much more space. .

Title: Re: 1783 MB Voice Wave Size Limit In YEM?
Post by: metcam on September 07, 2019, 02:35:51 AM

Balkan pack is 450MB and
Middle east pack is 290.
 So just 2 of this pack are around 750MB ......

Yes ,,, we need more memory definitely....

Title: Re: 1783 MB Voice Wave Size Limit In YEM?
Post by: EileenL on September 07, 2019, 02:28:48 PM

I have seventeen packs loaded into my Genos and still have a little space left.

Title: Re: 1783 MB Voice Wave Size Limit In YEM?
Post by: Snicker740 on September 10, 2019, 06:28:55 AM

Quote from: Francesco Massa on September 07, 2019, 07:02:14 PM

I think that we have a different point of view of memory availability, according to our needs. Also for me 1.8 GB is not sufficient, I wish I could add more sounds but I can't.

Five or six years ago, Tyros 5 was able to use 2Gb memory.
Genos launched in 2017, the price of memory chips is now much cheaper.
Yamaha only for Genos 1.78Gb in my opinion is quite stingy and less,  compared to the development of technology

Title: Re: 1783 MB Voice Wave Size Limit In YEM?
Post by: DerekA on September 10, 2019, 01:45:12 PM

The (optional) 2GB card for T5 is still over £300 today. So getting 1.7GB included in Genos is relatively generous.

Of course, T5 uses a special type of memory chip which supports the high transfer rate needed for sample playback. I don't know if Genos uses a cheaper type.

Title: Re: 1783 MB Voice Wave Size Limit In YEM?
Post by: EileenL on September 12, 2019, 12:27:42 AM

Yes flash memory used in keyboards is not that cheap.

Title: Re: 1783 MB Voice Wave Size Limit In YEM?
Post by: pjd on September 12, 2019, 04:26:03 AM

Quote from: DerekA on September 10, 2019, 01:45:12 PM

Of course, T5 uses a special type of memory chip which supports the high transfer rate needed for sample playback. I don't know if Genos uses a cheaper type.

Quite true. The tone generator IC used in the Genos and S970 (and later) is a significant departure from the older IC ised in the Tyros 5. ("IC" meaning "integrated circuit.")

The new generation (SWP70 tone generator) uses the same kind of commodity NAND flash memory as fast SSD storage units. Cost is significantly lower than the previous generation waveform memory.

I can only assume that Yamaha will pay attention to user needs and add more physical flash memory for user data in a future keyboard in the product line.

All the best -- pj