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Title: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: ton37 on August 29, 2019, 01:13:50 PM
Hi, I have found a (Vietnamese) video in witch you can see (and hear) a (short) demonstration of the soundquality of the SX900. In a duo setup he shows the sound difference between the S975 vs. the SX900. And the winner is …..

If you are interested please follow this Url: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TscDoIaH4s

There is no subtitle: but for your eyes and ears only ;-))
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: Enildo on August 29, 2019, 02:16:08 PM
Hi Tom

The Sx900 fared better, no doubt.

Enildo
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: EileenL on August 29, 2019, 04:00:25 PM
You can't possibly get a true sound unless you can hear the keyboard first hand but there seems a definite improvement in sound.
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: Toril S on August 29, 2019, 04:21:57 PM
It sounded like he used a sustain pedal on the piano of the SX, but not on the 975. That is unfair.
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: beykock on August 29, 2019, 04:55:02 PM
The SX900 sounds great. WOW ! 👂

I would like to know if there is any sound difference between the S970 and the S975 ?

Thank you for your reply !
Babette
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: Toril S on August 29, 2019, 05:04:08 PM
The sounds are very similar,Babette, but the 975 has a more balanced sound.
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: ton37 on August 29, 2019, 07:27:59 PM
If you are interested, I found another one to get an idea of SX sound-potential … or just skip  ;)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mCrTVcdd3Cw
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: J. Larry on August 30, 2019, 12:20:42 AM
The first video listed by ton37 was most instructive.  For once, someone dared to show some of the choral voices.  Don’t know how others feel, but with a new arranger, I’d rather see/hear brief snippets of a lot of styles and voices, rather than a concert/demo from the Yamaha professionals.  It’s a given that the factory reps are great players.  My preference would be a series of short Yamaha videos, showing the full range of styles/voices that the new arranger offers.  After all, isn’t the heart and soul of an arranger its styles and voices?  Band-In-Box does a great job showing-off, with posted audio demos, of all of its real styles.  Now, if someone would have the courage to demo in detail the vocal harmony features and options of the SX900.  Rarely, are there videos on vocal performance with an arranger.  But, I suppose arrangers are primarily for players, not singers.
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: EileenL on August 30, 2019, 11:19:13 AM
With vocal harmony on most keyboards you have to adjust it to your own voice. There is lots of editing you can do and then save as your own.
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: mikf on August 30, 2019, 12:10:30 PM
Of course it sounds great, isn't that what you would expect from the latest model. Is it better than previous models, maybe, but its marginal at best and down to personal opinion. Just like every other iteration for the last several years.
These keyboards have all sounded great for a long time and sound differences are never going to completely blow you away. If you are in the market for a new keyboard, why not. But if you have a recent model I really doubt the sound of this one is going to be night and day better. They never are.
Mike
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: Joe H on August 30, 2019, 04:17:16 PM
Of course it sounds great, isn't that what you would expect from the latest model. Is it better than previous models, maybe, but its marginal at best and down to personal opinion. Just like every other iteration for the last several years.
These keyboards have all sounded great for a long time and sound differences are never going to completely blow you away. If you are in the market for a new keyboard, why not. But if you have a recent model I really doubt the sound of this one is going to be night and day better. They never are.
Mike

For me it's the new features and capabilities. At some point though, I will have the keyboard that I really want.  I experiment a lot as a "power user".  We get pleasures from these keyboards in different ways depending on our interest and temperament.

Joe H
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: ton37 on August 30, 2019, 07:35:41 PM
……... But if you have a recent model I really doubt the sound of this one is going to be night and day better. They never are.
Mike
Hi Mike, I agree: for me it does not have to differ night AND day. I'm satisfied with only 'day'…. ;D . As Joe H. wrote: it is the sum of the potential and features, including sound, that count. And the sum is for every individual different.
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: ton37 on August 30, 2019, 09:46:10 PM
I found a sounddemo recorded directly in the (Phone)recorder. So now you can get an idea how it sounds throught its own speakers... t.m.o. not bad at all…
If you whish … follow the next url.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQu_DQzE0Nk
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: lilryu on August 31, 2019, 05:58:01 AM
disassembling the sx-770

https://youtu.be/u3mEcxLUXwc
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: metcam on August 31, 2019, 11:50:48 AM
  We get pleasures from these keyboards in different ways depending on our interest and temperament.

Joe H

Perfect said.

Regards
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: beykock on August 31, 2019, 12:04:00 PM
Hi :

We know the differences between the SX900 and SX700.

I would like to know if the sound quality between the 900 and the 700 is so much different ?

Babette
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: rgw on August 31, 2019, 07:43:14 PM
Hi Babette,

I thought from your previous postings that you were going to stay with your Tyros?

Richard.
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: beykock on August 31, 2019, 09:14:14 PM
Richard :

Oh yes I certainly will but a friend wants to have some SX700 information and I would like to help her out.

Babette
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: rikkisbears on August 31, 2019, 09:48:12 PM
Hi,
I’m considering buying the new SX900. Currently have the s950, has anyone upgraded from the s950 to just say the s975 and was there a big difference in sound quality? Guessing The SX900 will sound even better again.

Unfortunately there’s no music stores in the area where we now live, and a 7 hr round trip is too far to drive for just a quick listen.

Thank you
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: ton37 on August 31, 2019, 09:55:48 PM
Hi :

We know the differences between the SX900 and SX700.

I would like to know if the sound quality between the 900 and the 700 is so much different ?

Babette
For your info pls. see the next URL: https://www.bonnersmusic.co.uk/yamaha-psr-sx700-vs-psr-sx900.irs
Conclusion: yes, there will be a minor difference, among others due to the hardware and software.
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: rikkisbears on August 31, 2019, 10:03:23 PM
Thank you for posting the demo, handy hearing little snippets of the styles as well as the sound comparisons.
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: beykock on September 01, 2019, 08:24:47 AM
Hi Rikki :

What is the Australian SX900 street price in US$ ?
When available ?

Thanks for your reply.

Best regards, Babette
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: beykock on September 01, 2019, 08:57:01 AM
Hi Ton :

Thank you for your feedback ! :)

There is a huge difference ( features, styles, voices etc. etc. ) between the 900 and 700.

It is hard to hear the sound quality difference on the internet though.
A " live " comparison might be necessary, I guess.

Also de SX700 seems to be a nice keyboard.
All depends on the personal needs of the player.

There is no doubt in my mind the new SX-serie will become successful.
Perhaps the price might be an issue for some people ? I do not know. 
 
Enjoy your Sunday !
Babette
 
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: reya on September 01, 2019, 09:34:22 AM
For your info pls. see the next URL: https://www.bonnersmusic.co.uk/yamaha-psr-sx700-vs-psr-sx900.irs
Conclusion: yes, there will be a minor difference, among others due to the hardware and software.

On the bonners website, they say SX700 has no MIC/GUITAR input.
 Yamaha specs indicate it has ..
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: beykock on September 01, 2019, 09:52:10 AM
Strange ... the S770 and S775 have a mic input, even some additional fx ( reverb e.g. ) features.

Babette
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: EileenL on September 01, 2019, 01:38:53 PM
I think all this means is that you can not play a proper Guitar through the system and you have no vocal Harmony. This is probably the same on the 775.
  if you want all the good stuff you need to go for the SX900.
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: Jingleman on September 01, 2019, 06:14:30 PM
I agree that the sx900 sounds better, but it’s a little deceptive as there running a stereo feed from the sx900 and a mono feed from the s975.
JM
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: ton37 on September 02, 2019, 01:24:38 PM
Adding some simple out of the box sound-examples from a SX900-user.
If you whish, follow the URL's
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hv-KiHuwxg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Eyn7glyWTM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGdcvYO5tCk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOv5hZyzhAc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSe7Z6c23sA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ZG_k9gSFh0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3CsRUJVglA (From 7:20 min. for hardrock icw.  Ch.Looper)

Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: ton37 on September 04, 2019, 01:26:37 PM
Sounddemo Ballad: Only playing, not speaking ...
If not interested: just skip  ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zeiVlkie_E
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: beykock on September 04, 2019, 01:30:02 PM
Hi Ton :

It looks like you have decided to order the SX900 very soon.
CONGRATULATIONS ! 💐

Best wishes, Babette
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: ton37 on September 04, 2019, 01:38:12 PM
Apparently that is clearly visible  ;) ;D
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: beykock on September 04, 2019, 01:53:24 PM
Hi Ton :

Apparently you will buy yours in The Netherlands, right ?

If you have ordered it, it would be interesting for my friend to know your unit € net price and the name, place of your Dutch dealer, if it is possible for you to give the required information of course.

My friend lives in Etten Leur ( NL ) and has the intention to sell her S750 privately and to buy an SX900 in November / latest early December 2019.

Thanks for your feedback, Ton !

Bye for now,
Babette
 
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: ton37 on September 04, 2019, 03:15:59 PM
Hi Babette,
There are a few large (international) Internet dealers (Bax, Thomann, Keymusic, Gear4music) on the keyboard market in the Netherlands. When someone in the Netherlands googles on the desired keyboard, you will automatically find those dealers advertising (incl. German / Belgian dealers). That also includes the prices of the desired keyboards. For the SX900 it currently fluctuates between € 2156 - € 2356. There are of course plenty of local dealers, who are also making good progress (Oostendorp, Joh.de Heer, MuziekhuisDera, etc.) The large internet dealers (usually) do not trade in and sell through their internet shop. The (smaller) local dealers often offer more / different service and you logically pay for it. The negotiation margin is not large for the SX900, at most a few hundred euros? This is because every advertiser wants to put down his lowest price on the internet. It is more difficult with an evt. in return. Many dealers would rather not trade in 'old' PSRs, because there is not much to be gained from that. Or you will receive very little in return. Ultimately, it is a one-to-one negotiation with your dealer. It just depends on what you choose, what appeals to you and what you have left for it.
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: Joe H on September 04, 2019, 03:26:26 PM
Yamaha is strict about dealers following the Manufactures Advertised Price (MAP).  Dealers can sell for far less if they wish to.

When I bought my PSR S910, my dealer had to get a special price from the Yamaha supplier to match the price of an eBay seller who was selling several S910s as "open box" and getting around the MAP.

Joe H
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: beykock on September 04, 2019, 03:51:24 PM
Hi Joe and Ton :

Thank you for your feedback. Very interesting information.👍

Ton, I will send a copy of your message to my Dutch friend.
She told me her S750 will be sold soon.
Thank you, Ton !

To my knowledge US retail prices ( tax incl. ) are lower than European prices.

World's lowest Yamaha prices are found in Asia, I guess.

Thanks and best regards, Babette
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: ton37 on September 05, 2019, 01:58:19 PM
Another demo if you are interested ...(piano + dowahbedoo + dist.guitar ), no talking ...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iv7sQ7XY9v8
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: Pino on September 05, 2019, 02:47:00 PM
Hi guys, sorry to disappoint you but my S910 sounds as good as that latest video.

So, it’s got to be the player then, not the keyboard? 😀

Pino
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: ton37 on September 05, 2019, 03:20:00 PM
Hi Pino, no I'm absolute not disappointed. On the contrary, I'm sincerely glad for you and I know that your/other Yammies sounds good too. I missed the DoWeDoWhab-sound in the former PSR, that was a reason to share this URL.  As I stated in other posts, the Yammies I owned (PSR Series) does all have a great sound quality. This post is about the new Yam-KB, and because there aren't still any other demo's because it is not been launched in USA/Europe we have to do it with the demo's from the Easter Region. So I have not intention to disqualify other Yammies. It is more curiousity to know all about a new toy. And besides the sound quality there are other features which have been added to each new Yammie-born  ;)
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: Pino on September 05, 2019, 03:28:40 PM
If I played a ‘DoWeDoWhab’ Song on one fo my gigs I would be the laughing stock of all my musician friend.
Maybe it’s a home player thing then?

Pino
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: ton37 on September 05, 2019, 03:41:49 PM
With all due respect Pino, but that also applies if you play a guitar solo in the middle of real guitarists. Or a trumpet for a brass band. You will also receive a comment on that. Not that I'm crazy about that DoBeDo sound, but because it indicates how far technology is able to make the sounds that people want. Whether or not they are used or not, that is a different matter. Why you write something derogatory about that homeplayer thing, that is a mystery to me. I don't care, but please leave. everyone in his value, right?
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: EileenL on September 05, 2019, 04:12:25 PM
On certain songs I have used scat voices and they have always gone down well. Used in short passages they work well.
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: Patrick on September 05, 2019, 09:17:36 PM
Hi Ton, you can play DoWeDoWhab sounds (from T4 and T5) on the PSR S970; just put the voices on YEM and you can play all thèses voices but i don(t use theses voices often; i prefer also the guitars and accordion; all the best Patrick

To try 2 voices

Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: panos on September 05, 2019, 10:03:10 PM
If I had had scat voices on my keyboard I would have got some ideas from here on how to use them in an not "embarrassing" way.At least for personal,home "usage" :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfRtFlCIO60&t=1743s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfRtFlCIO60&t=1743s)

For playing for an audience of course it is always better to just stick to something like the old time Classic and catchy "C chord to G chord and then to Am chord etc"  :)
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: Enildo on September 07, 2019, 02:46:59 AM
Hello Everyone!

A new video for enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVSmjvxCRo0
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: J. Larry on September 07, 2019, 05:43:17 AM
Well, finally a video showing-off the SX900.  Hopefully, there will be more forthcoming across the full range of styles and voices.  As a prospective buyer, I can read about all the features.  I want to see/hear what it sounds like from an experienced arranger player.  Lots of playing, with little to no talking. 
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: ton37 on September 08, 2019, 10:43:33 AM
I came across another nice video. An enthusiastic talented guy (thank you guy  ;)) is trying out his new SX900 out of the box. Not as polished as a Yama-demonstrator, but this is what I like .. a nice Sunday afternoon jamming ... but don't expect Classic evergreens  ;D

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWRFrh1OgWs
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: beykock on September 08, 2019, 12:52:41 PM
Hi SX900 friends :

IMHO Yamaha are launching " a second highend " keyboard arranger at a price that is approx. 50% lower than the price of the Genos.☝

I agree there are significant differences between both
 " highends " but I am convinced many people, who have the intention to upgrade now or soon, will go for the SX900 and not for the Genos due to the price and the new features of the SX900.

I know most present Genos owners will disagree with my personal opinion. 😻

Everybody is respecting they have a complete other opinion, why not.

Time will tell what Yamaha's strategy will bring the market in the near future.

Will the Genos2 come at the end of 2020 or much later ?


Best regards,
Babette
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: EileenL on September 08, 2019, 02:11:37 PM
Although I agree the SX900 is a very nice keyboard and I have mine on order and will replace my 970. The Genos still has a lot more things you can do with it and really can not be compared with the smaller model. I don't expect we will see a new Genos for a couple of years yet. I am more than happy with my one. I expect I will not be the only one who will have both keyboards as for me a smaller keyboard is easier to take out.
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: beykock on September 08, 2019, 03:00:37 PM
Congratulations, Eileen, with your new SX900 !💐

Maybe you gonna sell your Genos too, who knows.😉😋

Wish you a lot of fun !

Babette
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: EileenL on September 08, 2019, 05:04:40 PM
Babette,

Why on earth would I want to sell my Genos. I use this at home but as I said before a smaller keyboard is easier for me to take to small venues for care homes etc.

 When you get yourself a Genos perhaps you will understand more why so many of us like it and are not wanting to get rid of it.

Your constant questions all about the same thing get a little tiring at times. Do you actually play.
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: ton37 on September 08, 2019, 07:27:41 PM
Hi SX900 friends :

IMHO Yamaha are launching " a second highend " keyboard arranger at a price that is approx. 50% lower than the price of the Genos.☝

I agree there are significant differences between both
 " highends " but I am convinced many people, who have the intention to upgrade now or soon, will go for the SX900 and not for the Genos due to the price and the new features of the SX900.

I know most present Genos owners will disagree with my personal opinion. 😻

Everybody is respecting they have a complete other opinion, why not.

Time will tell what Yamaha's strategy will bring the market in the near future.

Will the Genos2 come at the end of 2020 or much later ?


Best regards,
Babette
I disagree Babette. One can adore a (new) Yammie, but be careful not to tear down other models. Have respect for each other's choice for a certain keyboard. That choice is largely based on what he /she can and/or wants to afford . Once I owned a Genos and it was/is a superb keyboard with lot of features, great soundquality and lovely keybed and sooo flexible. The SX can't compete with the Genos. Of course the SX is a great machine, but it stands on its own and in the beginning of a new PSR-line. Don't forget the Genos was the very first of a new Yammie-design/-OT, that's his strenghts and weakness! That means that the roads are paved for the SX and the G2:  they will have it much 'easier' in technologic and production' perspective.
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: ton37 on September 08, 2019, 07:44:22 PM
FYI: Another Sounddemo of the SX900: just piano ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_rPxJP9fZQ
Title: Re: Wow, the SX900 sounds very well ...
Post by: pjd on September 08, 2019, 11:08:47 PM
That choice is largely based on what he /she can and/or wants to afford.

Amen to that! I think it's really critical to think about one's needs and goals as a musician and to think about budget. Gosh, this applies to saxophones or kazoos, too.  :)

Comparing keyboard models is useful to the extent that it helps a musician find the most appropriate instrument. Comparison for comparison's sake is fun, but unfortunately, social media all too often gets into unproductive or negative discussions.

Hey, hey, post, but don't forget to play today!  :)

-- pj